I'm building a SUP to a old mate 5ears experience SUPer used to ride longboard with some classic board from California as Hobie, Martinson, toes on nose series and other ones of that kind. So i keep in mind these 9' longboard premodern shape and designed this SUP for him to spend (our) winter in Sri Lankan waves:
i will put some picture of the board later on when it will come out from glassing job which i hope light to under 7kg finished board.

Hey kami what's that software you use? I could frig around with that all day making boards!
cheers

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Tang said..
Hey kami what's that software you use? I could frig around with that all day making boards!
cheers

Sure Tang! playing with this soft ware is far away more enjoyable than breathing nuisance dust in the back of your garage.
I use this one www.shape3d.com/Support/Tutorial.aspx in a pro version You lucky craftsman because tutorials remain in your language
Viewer is much better quality sight than provided one on other softwares
Wishing you the creativity you desserve

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Tang said..
Hey kami what's that software you use? I could frig around with that all day making boards!
cheers

Do you think you could design a minion a 7:10 minion on one of those programs.?

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Chilebear said..

Tang said..
Hey kami what's that software you use? I could frig around with that all day making boards!
cheers

Do you think you could design a minion a 7:10 minion on one of those programs.?

Sorry, Chilebear even if you far away from OZ, It will be unfair to the pro who develops that shape and can't put the experience they already log in.

I know and i agree with You 100%
Im biding my time until they arrive in this part of the world.

Hope i havent offended anyone

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Chilebear said..
I know and i agree with You 100%
Im biding my time until they arrive in this part of the world.

Hope i havent offended anyone

Probably Spiderman

Thanks kami, I'll look that up tou be sure. At least that will free up the ipad in the evening - the better half will like that!

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Tang said..
Thanks kami, I'll look that up tou be sure. At least that will free up the ipad in the evening - the better half will like that!

Hi Tang, you need a 15" screen at least to use this DAO.
You still us an Ipad to watch tutorials.

What did i draw last night and at morning 6'10 27" 4" 90 liters finned with bonzer small B5 and K3 from FCS

I better get this once I have a few things under control around here, or nothing is ever gonna get done. Looks great kami.

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Kami said..
I'm building a SUP to a old mate 5ears experience SUPer used to ride longboard with some classic board from California as Hobie, Martinson, toes on nose series and other ones of that kind. So i keep in mind these 9' longboard premodern shape and designed this SUP for him to spend (our) winter in Sri Lankan waves:
i will put some picture of the board later on when it will come out from glassing job which i hope light to under 7kg finished board.

board finished, no money just a swipe between us .

What a glide machine !!!

That looks really sweet!

Hi Kami

I have just purchased the full version of shape 3d and starting to learn how to use it to on the cnc I have just build here in the uk. Have You played with the 3d layers much and creating deck recesses for race boards? I have not yet figured the best way to round the rails into the deck recess. Do you have any tips?

Many thanks

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charlieuk said..

Hi Kami

I have just purchased the full version of shape 3d and starting to learn how to use it to on the cnc I have just build here in the uk. Have You played with the 3d layers much and creating deck recesses for race boards? I have not yet figured the best way to round the rails into the deck recess. Do you have any tips?

Many thanks

I don't practice on deck recess but i think the method i use to blend channels on bottom plan shape can be same one.
I think you have to blend smoothly spline 3dlayers's deck recess control point on 3Dlayers slices with the existing shape of the rails. So no method , zoom on and adjust controls on 3D layers slices points and watch on 3D wiever what happens.
To watch if it's smooth: menu direction: 3Dwiew/direct3D properties/curvature mode. I like "limit curvature radius", scroll onto 1062 grades" .

It look like this, flames have to be coherent but no fear it's just micro metric ...still have to understand why color flames are changing

Bon courage.

Looks great Kami.Looking forward to seeing it in the water.

Nice looking board Kami.... looks like a really fun board!

Thx Supthecrreek, finally i'm not making this 6 channel board to go in my Caribean's Island trip.I will do it later on.

I better like this one , it's a flex tail .

Cheers thanks kami I managed to figure it out in the end I think it was a issue on the template I was using so set up the layers again and it was all good. Im finding that sometimes if find a bump some were or something doesn't look right just to delete the slice in the middle, let it smooth its self out then re insert a new slice and start again

Yes, let the program works by itself, always start from one slice can be middle first as example, create others at end OFO's, then delete back center one , create middle slice again , smooth it .... get a glance on volume capacity and centered it as you want with width ( which is prime for SUP)! this is is just like shaping with live foam, it never end in dust spread down the floor near stand feet. Just send file to the trash box if you don't like.
Shaping is wonderful this way

My last game, i think i will send this file to CNC

YES, i'm going to try 25.4 " wide for usual 85 liters to my weight 78kg, will see what happens to me


Fins set up will be: MRX (with out railer) and small B5 as inlet fin (all from FCS)

Quatro set fins positions in option plugs placement.

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Kami said..
YES, i'm going to try 25.4 " wide for usual 85 liters to my weight 78kg, will see what happens to me


Fins set up will be: MRX (with out railer) and small B5 as inlet fin (all from FCS)

Quatro set fins positions in option plugs placement.

Do you have any experience with doing a old school nice and smooth fish tail Kami? im struggling here to get it the way i want even after watching the tutorial 20 times.

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charlieuk said..

Kami said..
YES, i'm going to try 25.4 " wide for usual 85 liters to my weight 78kg, will see what happens to me


Fins set up will be: MRX (with out railer) and small B5 as inlet fin (all from FCS)

Quatro set fins positions in option plugs placement.

Do you have any experience with doing a old school nice and smooth fish tail Kami? im struggling here to get it the way i want even after watching the tutorial 20 times.

Fishtail SUP, you mean? i did'nt draw any kind of, already. But best way is to load from the ware house for example :
www.shape3d.com/Warehouse/Board.aspx?Board=1
Then, please use the 3Dlayers about the fish tail shape, i wish to you that it will be a easier starter or training rather than reading tutorials even 20 times

If these this view lof my actual work about 3Dlayers below which i struggle with severals ones , can reassure you :
smooth single concave from nose to vee double concave in the tail , blended with 6 deep channels; 7'2" 26" 90liters , my next pocket rocket

Coming out soon from my kichen, i fly to Caribbean island in next friday with this board to try it

The CNC , i should use is out of order so i 'm shaping in a traditional way, hopefully SUP are big board so i don't need to be good eyed

Looks cool... the main width seems very subtly places strategically between the feet... should fly!

That looks amazing Kami.

Looking forward to seeing it in the water

Merci beaucoup

Some news from my kitchen:
So easy to find find a body board which sneak or drop in on me at least once in its life. As soon as it claims quickly guilty, i torn it and stick to my board



Yes, bosted for ever

Still some more work to do before flying to tropical island on friday to demo how this flex tail vanguard 7'26" work

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Chilebear said..
That looks amazing Kami.

Looking forward to seeing it in the water

During my past 4 weeks surfing trip last month, i try this board 7'26" 80liters. I'm very disappointed for the worst of it about surfing ability. This board is very stiff, can be from the flexing aera made of bodyboard part. It has been too much pre-bent so was NO lift tail..I rocker line .
So this experience on Vangard type of shape make me learn : a board to be loose or able to induce turning abilities and put on rail need oblique lines.Those oblique lines can be hips, tail lift or toe ( base fin oblique direction ) in the special case of Vangard style shape the meanest is the tail lift!
Other learning: 7'26" 80 liters shape has too much fat rails , because if you make thinner rail, you're loosing buoyancy quickly under 80 liters which so few except if you weight under 70 kg.
Positive feed back is its awesome stability and paddling ability to catch wave, compared of its dimensions and volume 7'26" 80liters , i weight 77kg despite my 60'. I lend this board just brand new to a young SUPer of my weight, i watch him easily going stood up trough soups.

So i believe in that kind of Vangard type of shape taking excellent stand up padding balance from its parallel outline and buoyancy repartition. From this recent SUPknowledge, i'm designing something with more oblique lines to create a loose and fast board inspired by the best fishtail board i ever had, board shaped by Errol Hickman from Durban who has been in touch of knowledge with Steve Lees. Old masters of the art .

Finally this board isn't so good . The main reason I thought why is : there is not enough curves in the tail. Tail need curves and if you cant create in the outline of Vangard type, have to be done in tail rocker or total scoop of the board.

Finally after doing many drawings and learning more and more drawing tricks and surfing all my SUP boards i've made I'm going to do this one .
7'2" 27" 90 liters, I weight 78 kG, put some thickness in nose to offset lack of nose width, no as much yaw as supposed I expect.









Some bottom shape concaves and belly details

Wow, that looks so rippable! I think that tail will turn just fine. I just ordered an 8-4 from Pat Rawson that looks very similar.
Though bigger

You did order a Pat Rawson is that kind of this one with double winger:
Because mine is more looking as a fish rather than an typical Hawaïan board as Brewer did in his time.