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1fox said..
Flash w/ Creek's make-up.

Custom 8'3 27 3/4 " 97 lts






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Very Foxy!

ha ha.... seeing the red Sunova "S" on the yellow, gave me an idea (mine didn't have that "S")

so, in the pursuit of always having fun....SuperFlash

marketing genius!

'I am actually thinking a Flow for sloppy 2 foot beach breaks.
I think a Flow would be a complimentary board to my larger Speeed. Just trying to grasp pros and cons.'

I'll have a go at answering this (without derailing the thread too much, if thats ok chaps)

I bought a Flow 8'7 to compliment my Speeed 8'10. I wanted a board for steeper snappy waves and to take surfing in larger waves/sets. I bought my Flow just before the time Sunova were developing the Flash and Creek, so those boards weren't an option then (about a year ago)
My Flow is excellent, I love it for anything 2' crumble upwards to head +. Yes it has more fun in formed 3-4ft with a bit of suck in them, but it's a very forgiving board IMO and is excellent to develop wave riding on. The nose is pulled in yes, and I too like to lean forward to catch waves, mostly because the waves I get are soft and have a large belly to them, so the first few rides resulted in tripping over the nose. But, you learn really quickly to balance back foot further back on the pad and front foot near the handle (so quite a wide stance) then paddle and off you go. It turns really well and I think because the tail is wider it floats well over crumble and you can still get drive turning in crumble too.
It's definitely a board to compliment your Speeed...
I can't comment on the Flash because I've not ridden one yet, so can't help there.. But certainly respect those that have ones opinion of them... because these guys know what they're doing.
I've ridden an 8'1 and 8'4 Creek in some pretty horrible mixed up conditions and because of those conditions couldn't make my mind up about them.. I'd come out with the same conclusions if I took my Speeed or Flow out in the slop too..
I will be back testing Creeks soon, revisit where I left off and go from there.
HTH's, UK based.

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supthecreek said..
the only wave that Soloshot3 filmed of the 9'0 Flash in Thailand so far.
The wave never broke, and I am 102 kg.... so pretty stoked with how nicely the board turned in these glassy rollers.

Only a surf god cou

1fox said..
Flash w/ Creek's make-up.

Custom 8'3 27 3/4 " 97 lts






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Is that a Fleek or a Crash ?

Waiting for railsaver & hexatraction 4 the debut.
Soon let U know.

nice board 1fox

9.0 very stable ,likes more powerful waves ,

Wow !!
Nice riding

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Tardy said..

How nice are those waves!

I'M in the maldives at the moment ,


heres a couple of the lads .I REALLY LIKE THE 8,10 CREEK TOO.
I've been testing all the boards .moon tours .

I was out in big surf today on my 9.0 ,had a few hairy drops ,it handled it no problem ,the extra rocker was appriciated.
I just relised something about this board ......why was it so different to my flow ...it's the rolled deck the water when it hits the board ,it rolls off it
rather than holding it down like a flat decked board ...duh ...I always wondered why the rolled deck is put on a performance board .
also explains why it punches through the swell a little easier ...it defiantly works better as a thruster set up .
I had it vertical today ..it likes being in the milk.....not a gutless wave board ..where the flow is a little better having the extra speed .

I can say now.... it is my big wave board now . or steep wave board .I'm still exploring this board ...

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Tardy said..
I was out in big surf today on my 9.0 ,had a few hairy drops ,it handled it no problem ,the extra rocker was appriciated.
I just relised something about this board ......why was it so different to my flow ...it's the rolled deck the water when it hits the board ,it rolls off it
rather than holding it down like a flat decked board ...duh ...I always wondered why the rolled deck is put on a performance board .
also explains why it punches through the swell a little easier ...it defiantly works better as a thruster set up .
I had it vertical today ..it likes being in the milk.....not a gutless wave board ..where the flow is a little better having the extra speed .

I can say now.... it is my big wave board now . or steep wave board .I'm still exploring this board ...

Good to hear mate thought you were going to trade it in for a creek...

its a pity Frank ,run over the nose of the flash in maldives and took it out of action,would love to of had a crack at those big waves we had on the last 2 days .
the thinner pin tail on the flash ,makes it a better option for the big waves .i will stick with the flash .

Anyone tried an insane for bigger waves , or can the new flash produce the goods . On the hunt for something 8,6 -8'8 possibly to fit on airplanes and ride bigger punchy waves , I'm 70kgs my 8'11 by 26 JP is on its last tour , it' has a flatter rocker for early paddle ins , hard to see the rockers in pics of the insane or flash . Would appreciate any feedback , thanks

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roachy said..
Anyone tried an insane for bigger waves , or can the new flash produce the goods . On the hunt for something 8,6 -8'8 possibly to fit on airplanes and ride bigger punchy waves , I'm 70kgs my 8'11 by 26 JP is on its last tour , it' has a flatter rocker for early paddle ins , hard to see the rockers in pics of the insane or flash . Would appreciate any feedback , thanks

Here's a pic of my 9.0 rocker ,it is quite good in big waves ,I certainly have taken some big drop I didn't think I'd make but did .
the insane is made as a big waves board .acid is one to look at too .

another thing to think about roachy , is your paddle speed for big waves ,the acid is slightly faster to paddle ,the insane haven't ridden it ,but looks like its a good paddler ,but maybe not as loose as these 2 .i'm guessing you will be looking at a smaller size ,not being 98 kg like me
but both good shapes and will fit your bill.

the 8,7 insane is 86 litres ,8,6 flash 112. 8,7 acid 106 ,by memory ,you got some thinking to do

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roachy said..
Anyone tried an insane for bigger waves , or can the new flash produce the goods . On the hunt for something 8,6 -8'8 possibly to fit on airplanes and ride bigger punchy waves , I'm 70kgs my 8'11 by 26 JP is on its last tour , it' has a flatter rocker for early paddle ins , hard to see the rockers in pics of the insane or flash . Would appreciate any feedback , thanks

SUPbru has both. Matt???

Sorry...been a bit slack on here lately.

I think I remember speaking to roachy about this in the past so no change from my side...I still swear by my 8'1 Acid & 8'11 Insane...both boards work surprisingly well in smaller conditions (the Acid is easier to throw around) but the Insane is the only shape I'll jump on in anything bigger than 1.5 x o/h

That's not to say that a shorter board like the 8'1 Acid &/or 8' Flash won't handle big stuff but, I personally feel like you need maximum paddle power in order to get in early & set yourself up for the wave + the 8'11 feels surprisingly nimble on a wave.

I prefer my 8'1 Acid vs the 8' Flash only because it feels more lively & snappy but, it's clearly more of a handful in the chop + there are plenty of Breezers out there that love the Flash so it just depends on what you want out of a board

Thanks Tardy and Supbru for your info and photos , might have to be a custom I'm thinking for size I'm after in there range .

Re-reading this old post
tardy/Rick any chance of a detailed comparison between 9"1 creek, 9" flash and 9"6 steeze ???

Hey Dave Ricks ya man having ridden all 3 .
but I would put the 8.10 creek and 9 flash in the more performance zone .
i did have a few waves on the 9.1 .creek found it a little big for me for throwing around .for my weight .
I ended up keeping my 9.0 flash ...and have explored its sweet spots...I like it as a quad set up .
it really depends what you want your board to do ,and what size wave you want to ride it on .
they all sit around the nice volume for us big guys .My favourite volume size at 97 kgs and. My age is 125 -130. Litres .
which tail shape you like ? I like rounded pins .which seems to work the best in my waves ..

it was unusual ,but I found the 8.10 easier to ride than the 9 flash ,it even caught the waves easier with its lower rockers 'twas a sad when I had to give the 8.10 creek back .
its on the list .after the 9.2 black acid .

Ive had my flash for 6 months or so now., I have the 9'0 and I'm 6'4 and 95kg. When I first got it I was very happy in all size waves that I ride, however a few months ago I picked up a second hand 8'5 made by a local shaper, which I also fell in love with! the flash is 133L vs 118L for my other board. I stopped riding the flash for a while then took it out in smaller waves and it felt like a boat and I fell out of love with it.

I have since taken it out in a bit bigger more powerful surf and I'm back in love. My summary of the 9'0 flash for my weight and size is that its stable and dependable, it paddles well and I know that I can get in the right position easily to get in and out of trouble :) It works better with a bit of size and having some wave face to work with, and lends itself to a carving style of surfing , hence working better in bigger waves. Im sure this may be partly due to the size though, and if I dropped to the 8'9, which would be fine for me, it would likely be completely different.

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bomberdave said..
Re-reading this old post
tardy/Rick any chance of a detailed comparison between 9"1 creek, 9" flash and 9"6 steeze ???

Heres a redacted version of the answer I wrote to bomberdave in a PM:
He had asked me to compare his 9'1 Creek, to a Flash or Steeze... or smaller Creek.

When you go with a smaller Creek, you lose the fun factor because I feel they work best when you have some extra surface area to keep "float" along with easy speed in low power conditions. My 9'4 is awesome in almost zero wave conditions... but my 9'1 needs more juice.

The 9'0 Flash I have.... isn't a Flash.... very low rocker and nose kick.... nothing like the real Flash Having said that... I am probably going to suggest it become a new model, with a different name, because it is awesome in low power waves!

I don't believe the real Flash is well suited for daily driver needs

I had fun on an 8'10 Steeze on a day when my 9'1 Creek wasn't cutting it.
The 8'10 Steeze was ok at my 106 kg... but even the 9'6 Steeze is noticeably tippier than my 9'4 Creek.
My 9'6 Steeze is tippy, but finds comfort for long sessions, in the nose width and length.
The Steeze is an easy board to ride and will handle a LOT of conditions Very "longboard" feel at 9'6 More "shortboard" at 8'10
The advantage of the Steeze is the flatish rocker which paddles into waves easily and is easy to carry speed.

I prefer my 9'4 Creek to my 9'6 Steeze because it is much higher performing, fast and more stable.
I honestly believe that if I had to choose 1 board to live with the rest of my life, in all conditions... eezey peezy....
my 9'4 Creek When you get to a comfortable size... they do everything well.

I don't feel the same about my 9'1.... and I was totally stoked about going smaller.
My issues with lower volume boards are probably 100% related to being 70 years old..
I "bobble" when a board falls out of the "power zone".
Kind of like watching old people walking on ice.. aaaaahhhh, wobble wobble.. then I find control again.
So. I am better with a constant power flow.
Younger folks simply do a power hop and jump a board over the flat spot.. so "smaller" works much better for them.

I rode an 8'10 Creek in Thailand in some pretty small pointbreak waves and didn't have any issues... but lacked the fun factor.
I'd love to try it in some serious clean waves.

bottom line....
if you like longboard style... go 9'6 Steeze
More ripper... go 8'10 Steeze... it may be more challenging than you like in wonk..... BUT, it will surf well!

The other alternative.... trade in your 9'1 Creek for the 9'4 and cover all the bases with great performance.

Confused yet?
Do what I do... and get them ALL :-)
Peace Rick

Picked up my new 8'9" Flash on Easter Friday and had an Easter long weekend of epic shred at Manly. I'm 58, 6'1", 103kgs and this baby is an amazing bucking bronco that does not want to be tamed....but it was :-)
Certainly more stable than my Acid.....
Amazing colour scheme

Smash1, what size is your acid pls???

8'10"

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Smash1 said..
Picked up my new 8'9" Flash on Easter Friday and had an Easter long weekend of epic shred at Manly. I'm 58, 6'1", 103kgs and this baby is an amazing bucking bronco that does not want to be tamed....but it was :-)
Certainly more stable than my Acid.....
Amazing colour scheme

So impressed with your flash that you are selling the acid already?

yes...I'm that impressed

I haven't tried an acid but I do have a 8'0 flash, aside from stability what is it like you like so much more than the acid? Just curious. Prob a bit more versatile in all conditions.
i found mine loved to go more vertical style turns which I loved but not sure how that compares to the acid

they are very similar boards to each other ,the flash seems to handle bigger waves and drops ,and yes benji ,vertical
i reckon the difference is in the tail ,
i would like a acid with a flash tail ,
I like the rocker of the acid ,its a little faster ,my 9,0 flash is a bit big for me ,
but i do use it on big days ,as the 132 litre gives you that extra paddle power .
i never fear dropping down anything ,because i know it will handle it .but you can notice its a slower board
i tend to ride it as a quad to solve this ,both great boards ,

i wish i had the flash out today as it was big ,and i did do some sliding on the 9,1 acid ,...(with the slightly wider tail )

as you know with big waves little bumps on the face of the wave seem bigger
and the current is very strong .