Anyone know the story on these?

Looks like a big design change for starboard.

Dave Muir

Sean Poynter

The top board is carbon fibre, that's all I know.

And is Poynter riding the 10'3 gun? it would be about 4 feet longer than what he normally rides.

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log man said...

And is Poynter riding the 10'3 gun? it would be about 4 feet longer than what he normally rides.

Don't think so gun looks more longboardy


These ones look new, and nice shapes

I think Sean Poynter is on the new 9'1" Silver Pro model.. They have to bring out some pointy nose boards to keep up with Naish..

DJ

looks light weight,5kg 9'0 now that would be sic,if it dont break in half

Copy me?

Hey Scotty, I'm guessing it's not, but that's not 'Blacks' is it?

Re the Starboards - about time isn't it?

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DavidJohn said...

I think Sean Poynter is on the new 9'1" Silver Pro model.. They have to bring out some pointy nose boards to keep up with Naish..

DJ

According to the story below, it's Naish that may need to do some copying to keep up with Starboard.


Whether Dave Muir from Western Australia likes it or not, his reputation has gone from underground charger, to winner of arguably the most prestigious stand up paddle event in the world. He did it convincingly winning all his heats on the way to the final, where he dominated with the biggest turns on the biggest waves. He did this by playing an intelligent strategic game, knowing the deeper waves were allowing more turns whilst also allowing him to make it to the inside and ride the re-form over the shallow inside ledge section.

The comments being made were that Dave was doing the biggest turns, looking in control of his board instead of the board being in control of him.

In second place, another unknown to the rest of the world was local Tahitian, and Starboard rider Tama Audibert. Tama was right behind Dave all the way through to the final with his smooth style and paddle work, along with big hits on the west bowl section.

What's more amazing about this feat is that both riders were riding stock standard production boards, making a clear statement that Starboard is all about performance in a wide variety of conditions, to claim the top 2 spots. Dave was riding the 9'8 x 29" and Tama the 9'8 x 30" both featuring the more round nose "compact" outline.

The entry list was stacked with past long board champions and renowned big wave chargers such as Bonga Perkins, Duane Desoto, Kai Lenny, Garret MacNamara, Vetea "Poto" David, Aaron Napolean, etc. Conditions were tricky to say the least with shifty 8-10 ft waves on the first day which moderated to 5-6 ft on the second. Pretty much every competitor took beatings with long hold downs, making it clear that these were waves of consequence.

It's the comp that everyone dearly wanted to win and "Davo" came and walked away with the crown. After the win he was almost in a state of shock sitting on the back of the contest catamaran while the crowd on the beach were waiting for the "champion" to return.

"Dave, Tama and Scott are changing the way we think about production boards, congratulations to a team of three great guys who have taken paddle boarding performance to a higher level."

Svein Rasmussen

Starboard founder

I thought the blunt nose was a design choice to cut off the tip and make a stable, shorter board. Wide and fat up front where you need flotation when you're paddling and nicely tapered pin tail in the back for quick turns. I have not really tried their boards but I liked the concept. I've had my eye on the 7'11 but it's tough to find that board.

Now I take it they are moving to pointed noses to "keep up" with the other board makers. Too bad they're caving into marketing pressures... Tell me if you disagree.

Completely disagree. Round nose boards make no sense at all in waves like those found on the 'Tour' IMO. Guys like Dave Miur are talented and fearless and can overcome the design deficiencies of such boards.

It would be akin to Kelly and Co riding 5 kilo mini mals on the tour.

The guy that seems to by far, rip the most, is the young dude Kai Lenny and he is on a more conventional design.

Flame suit on...haha.

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goatman said...

Completely disagree. Round nose boards make no sense at all in waves like those found on the 'Tour' IMO. Guys like Dave Miur are talented and fearless and can overcome the design deficiencies of such boards.

It would be akin to Kelly and Co riding 5 kilo mini mals on the tour.

The guy that seems to by far, rip the most, is the young dude Kai Lenny and he is on a more conventional design.

Flame suit on...haha.

And Kai is also on stock boards 99% of the time

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goatman said...



It would be akin to Kelly and Co riding 5 kilo mini mals on the tour.

The guy that seems to by far, rip the most, is the young dude Kai Lenny and he is on a more conventional design.

Flame suit on...haha.

Check out Kellys Deep Six Pipe board...round and fat up the front pulled in at the back...

Your right Goaty, it aint Black's. Its getting more and more surfed now so don't know if I will ever get out there alone. Want to one day......when its not too big.

Starboard to get

My tip;
Starboard will get pointy, naish will back off the point a little.

It's all about reduced width @ 1 foot from the nose. What you do with the shape in front of that don't matter a bit. Round it, bend it, lift it or what ever. Just make sure the @ 1 foot width is correct, and as time rolls on, this measuremnt will be similar across brands.

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Tux said...

goatman said...



It would be akin to Kelly and Co riding 5 kilo mini mals on the tour.

The guy that seems to by far, rip the most, is the young dude Kai Lenny and he is on a more conventional design.

Flame suit on...haha.

Check out Kellys Deep Six Pipe board...round and fat up the front pulled in at the back...

Round and Fat....mmmmm?

A fair bit of lift as well I would bet.

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goatman said...

Completely disagree. Round nose boards make no sense at all in waves like those found on the 'Tour' IMO. Guys like Dave Miur are talented and fearless and can overcome the design deficiencies of such boards.

It would be akin to Kelly and Co riding 5 kilo mini mals on the tour.

The guy that seems to by far, rip the most, is the young dude Kai Lenny and he is on a more conventional design.

Flame suit on...haha.

Other than the swing weight of a rounded nose, what is the downside? When I'm surfing, it's out of the water. When I'm paddling, it provides more stability, allowing me to use a shorter, turnier board. At least that's my theory. I'm currently enjoying my pointy PSH 8'6 WR but have wondered if Starboard was onto something with the blunt nose boards. Maybe it's well suited to short standup boards.

The Deep six board was actually the same board that he would normally ride at Pipe with about 12 inches cut from the nose and then re templated and shaped.

The rocker, outline, width etc was almost exactly the same as he would normally ride just without the nose.

Kind of like snapping the nose off your favourite board, feels the same but looser.

More area to catch on waves with suck or when doing tight turns back into the pocket.

Goaty,
If you have a close look at slaters board, you see that is exactly what GMC and I are talking about. If the board was a traditional shape, it would be a few inches longer. What you see is a board with the same rail line and narrow nose width @ the 1 foot mark (apparent 1 foot mark form the original length) then a reshaped nose outline . Bets of both worlds, low swing weight = turns tight, narrow nose width = no catching on steep walls. Yes to nose lift, mine kicks up also.

Hey Scotty, no disagreement from me regarding the 'Slater nose'. If fact it looks more like most 'pointy nose' SUP noses. As you have said the 12" width (from the imaginary point) is important along with the lift. The lift is important though!

Yer you right, that sean poynter board could go a little more IMO.

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Other than the swing weight of a rounded nose, what is the downside? When I'm surfing, it's out of the water. When I'm paddling, it provides more stability, allowing me to use a shorter, turnier board. At least that's my theory. I'm currently enjoying my pointy PSH 8'6 WR but have wondered if Starboard was onto something with the blunt nose boards. Maybe it's well suited to short standup boards.

This is why I got Simon to shape me an 8’2” (four inches shorter than my standard SUP) with a lot more width up the front but the same narrow-ish rounded pin in the tail. The result is a shorter board with a tighter arc but about the same planshape area. The overall volume is less (due to it being thinner and has lower rails) but it floats me about the same when paddling due to the similar water displacement from the same surface area. It’s more stable too (both paddling and surfing) due to the extra width up front when you have your weight forward. The wider nose (and a bit flatter rocker) also makes it plane better and maintain speed through fat sections – like a shortboard fish.

My concern is that the nose might catch when taking sucky drops but I haven’t nose dived it yet (two surfs) and have never had a problem with this on my 5’10” fish. I think the reduced length counteracts this and allows you to put your board in positions on the wave that aren’t as conducive to nose diving – unlike a standard mal.

Planshape:


Nose Lift:


Non-Nose Dive Drop I:


Non-Nose Dive Drop II:

Casso your board looks sic for its intended purpose but I don't think it will be ideal 'first rock' board. And I am mainly talking about sucky waves here.

Dan's little high performance SUPs are unreal in most waves (they have a little extra area in the nose) but the pulled in gun nose (and tail) was the go for hollow reefs.

Horses for courses, hence the need for a quiver. I will get Dan to make me a new gun at some stage.

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CMC said...

The Deep six board was actually the same board that he would normally ride at Pipe with about 12 inches cut from the nose and then re templated and shaped.

The rocker, outline, width etc was almost exactly the same as he would normally ride just without the nose.

Kind of like snapping the nose off your favourite board, feels the same but looser.

But isn't this what Starboard have been doing over the last few years, Instead of having a 9' pointy nose ,you cut off the nose, round it off and you've got the SB 7'11". The shortest boards so far have not come from the pointy Naish or the pointy JL or the pointy PSH but the blunted nose Starboard and Gong

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I don't think it will be ideal 'first rock' board.

True, but I don't surf there very often and even when I do I find it difficult to snag a sucky inside one off that resident SUP charger - even though he is getting a bit long in the tooth!

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Casso said...
even though he is getting a bit long in the tooth!

Settle down

All jokes aside, my point at the start of the topic was about SUPs suitable for the 'Tour' where the majority of waves are either mega heavy/sucky or both.

Sean got 2nd in mexico.
lovin this shot

Tell us about that board Scotty.

What's your thoughts on nose shape?

...and are you coming to the Mambo this year.. (Merimbula Corona Classic).

DJ

nose shape too funny theres a heap more to it than that try rocker ,outline concaves fins etc etc etc, you could have a pointy nose or round nose and a crap flat rocker and the boards still gunna nose dive.

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dtm said...

nose shape too funny theres a heap more to it than that try rocker ,outline concaves fins etc etc etc, you could have a pointy nose or round nose and a crap flat rocker and the boards still gunna nose dive.

Yes, yes and yes, but aren't we talking about the abomination that the round nose is .....so is it just that pointy nose surfboards look like proper surfboards and round nose boards look like mini mals and everyone knows that they're not proper surfboards OK so maybe I'm so far off beam here but will someone put me out of my misery here am I treading on some anti Starboard toes here? or are my observations just