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Brenno said..
Well I've narrowed it down to one of these 3.....



I've toyed with the idea of the Infinity New Deal for a while, I love my Smiks, and I've owned and enjoyed a few good Sunovas.
Let you know how I go, and of course will post a review.
Cheers

Hi Brenno, I'm after a 10 footer this year. Looking forward to your choice and the review. [Just quietly I'm hoping it's either the Smik or Sunova]
Cheers, Jimbo.

Love my Jimmy Lewis 10ft destroyer,the longest I have ever keep a sup! The new starboard looks good as well

That Infinity looks good

Been enjoying my new 2021 starboard 29" 10' longboard in starlight construction definatly worth a look if you want performance and quality build

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Brenno said..
Well I've narrowed it down to one of these 3.....



I've toyed with the idea of the Infinity New Deal for a while, I love my Smiks, and I've owned and enjoyed a few good Sunovas.
Let you know how I go, and of course will post a review.
Cheers

The new mid length infinity new deal 8 by 28 could be great for me at 62kg. Not too long but still has the glide

I have three Blue Planet Nose Performers, a 9'x27"x105L and two 10'x28"x128L (one standard one carbon). I like the 10' boards so much, I may just ditch the rest of my quiver for the 10' longboards from here on out. They cruise during my sometimes long paddle outs, and I ride them in tiny mush to over head and slabbing. The pulled in round-pin tail still turns on a dime, yet holds in very well on a pretty vertical face. All boards with Futures F6 thruster fins. Durability has been good. Very stable in all conditions.
As they aren't part of the normal board lineup (can still custom order), I've been on the fence about the Deep Jackson Close 124L board. But I can't wrap my head around a stringerless, non-sandwich 10' board not snapping like a twig at the first big pinch. That's a lot of scratch to blow on a "test"

Any thoughts on these boards ?
Its an interesting range of lengths for the one board .
I can't work out which one would be best for a lighter weight person

ecsboards-australia.com.au/collections/sup-boards/products/mckee-turbo-latest-model?variant=37681523228864

It was said that nose rider longboards are slower so that they do not outrun the shoulder. If so, which of them is terrible at nose riding and goes faster than other boards?

Smik Bonza. Of course it'd have to be a custom ten footer. For me (as a beginner) it's becoming a good 'turning' lesson, because if you dont turn you just end up outrunning everything.

Any board with edge in the tail,and flatter rocker ,generally speaking,IMO.

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Gboots said..
Any thoughts on these boards ?
Its an interesting range of lengths for the one board .
I can't work out which one would be best for a lighter weight person

ecsboards-australia.com.au/collections/sup-boards/products/mckee-turbo-latest-model?variant=37681523228864

I'd go 8'8 for an all rounder. Be interested in the weight of these boards though.

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billekrub said..
It was said that nose rider longboards are slower so that they do not outrun the shoulder. If so, which of them is terrible at nose riding and goes faster than other boards?

not strictly answering your question but I like the dynamics of noseriding and beneficial board shapes (from my longboarding days) so will add my 2cts (which these days is rounded down to 0.00?).

Rear 2 foot or so of the board is the most important bit. Ideally best longboards will utilise Bernoulli's law by having something like a reverse plane wing shape (flatish on top, convex on the bottom) creating 'lift' in a downwards direction to hold the rear of the board within the wave as water passes over and under the rear of the board (like with air over and under the surface of a plane wing creating upwards lift). Often referred to as 50 50 rails and a rolled bottom on the old school longboards. Though my more recent Laguna Bay longboard has the curved/rolled/convex bottom and flat top at the rear but fairly sharp rails to assist with turning even with a square tail and single fin. Extra weight slows the board a bit but more importantly maintains momentum through the water once moving with less affect on stability by any chop etc. while cross-stepping. Big single fin also assists that stability and line reducing lateral movement at the nose as well as slowing the board with drag from the large surface area of the fin. Square or at least squashed tail helps by providing more surface area at the rear for holding up more weight at the nose.

All of the above has been well known in longboarding for a few decades. Makes it a bit surprising then when I see SUPs advertised as 'noseriders' but have a thin rear, rails with a sharp bottom edge, with twin Vs running between a small 2 and 1 fin setup and ultralight. Great for performance surfing and you may make it up or near the front for a bit if you are light enough or talented enough (top surfers can noseride just about any longboard, at least for a few seconds, but top models will also look good modeling a garbage bag), but not a noserider.

EDIT: so forgot to add that the JL Black and Blue is the closest I've seen to this noserider shape in SUPs so far (though there are probably others too)

To me:

Noseriders:
JL Black and Blue - most traditional log sup
Sunova Style - slows when perched, loves to trim, stalls when on tail

All round / performance Longboard Sups:
designed mostly for turns and occasional nose-rides
Infinity New deal
Sunova Surf
Sunova Revolution ( i think)
Naish Nalu Pro
Deep Jackson Close
Starboard Longboard
JP Longboard
Smik Hipster LB
JL Striker / Destroyer
among others

If hanging 10 forever is your ultimate goal with old school style, it's a no brainer - a JL Black and Blue.

If you want to nose ride a bit and do turns, any longer surf sup will basically work. I nose ride my 9' surf shapes... ( I also ride a 10' Sunova custom LB similar to a Surf)

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DHUPEDNORTH1 said..

billekrub said..
It was said that nose rider longboards are slower so that they do not outrun the shoulder. If so, which of them is terrible at nose riding and goes faster than other boards?

not strictly answering your question but I like the dynamics of noseriding and beneficial board shapes (from my longboarding days) so will add my 2cts

and a very valuable 2cts!

I would add that there are many types of noseriders. The full retro shapes have a tail that locks the board in the curl as DHUPEDNORTH1 describes, but not performance/modern longboard shapes, that are thus able to gain speed and get away from the curl to perform cutbacks.

The Gong line for instance have 4 main noseriders in the SUP line:
- IT for retro noserides in slow waves, slow in the nose and tail shapes.
- Soul for retro noserides in faster waves (nose rails more streamlined for driving the board from the nose at speed)
- NFA/Freak for a more modern style (carving turns) in slow waves
- Zero for a more modern style (carving turns) in fast waves

And the surf longboard line has even more models, each with a different compromise.

So, basically, you should ask the shaper about what he intended with his shapes.

PS: Gong is not making a lot of 10 footers: European cars and garages are not adapted to them, so they do not sell there.

This morning's BNB 10'1 fun playground. The BnB is a different Zen.
As are the Stylelord and Hipster twin 10's as said .
board for the wave of the day . Mega challenge to try and pick the aspects you like about each board then to hybrid them together ? ??

Other LSR'ers out on JL Striker, Infiniti New Deal.
Bail up as many guys as you can to try their rides cause bottom line it's about the feel for YOU...
Enjoy

I picked up a mint surf tech Laird Pearson Arrow last year . Have had a few of these and to me it's still one of the best longboard shapes . Low rocker , good surfing rails , nose concave and a bit of weight which helps with nose riding and momentum on the weaker days and it goes well in the bigger stuff too . It's surprisingly good off the tail as well . Sadly they're not made anymore

Yes I had the 10/ 10.6 and the 11ft lairds the 10,6 being my favourite,especially with a 10 " GG 4a fond memories

I've got the 10'6 and the 11 and the 12 but the 12 is pretty much used in flat water although I might take it out on a small day one day

Can only agree on the Starboard 10' x 29". I've been using the pinetek version, (lovely construction with the flax & carbon rails) for about a year now & find it's a very versatile board. Fast, turns off the tail & trims well. Also stable & catches waves easily. Impressed! I'd like to try the blue carbon version.

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Hoppo3228 said..
To me:

Noseriders:
JL Black and Blue - most traditional log sup
Sunova Style - slows when perched, loves to trim, stalls when on tail

All round / performance Longboard Sups:
designed mostly for turns and occasional nose-rides
Infinity New deal
Sunova Surf
Sunova Revolution ( i think)
Naish Nalu Pro
Deep Jackson Close
Starboard Longboard
JP Longboard
Smik Hipster LB
JL Striker / Destroyer
among others

If hanging 10 forever is your ultimate goal with old school style, it's a no brainer - a JL Black and Blue.

If you want to nose ride a bit and do turns, any longer surf sup will basically work. I nose ride my 9' surf shapes... ( I also ride a 10' Sunova custom LB similar to a Surf)

100% agree. I have the 9' 6" Black and Blue. Traditional longboard shaped sup. Awesome ~ fit for purpose.

Has anyone tried the new JL 9'8x31.5 Destroyer? I'm interested in finding out if it would be a good step down from my 10x34 SMIK.

10' x 28" 127 L, 8 or so kilos.
I had a few breaky beers after night shift a couple of weeks ago, next thing I know this turns up at my house. Ooops
So far I'm really enjoying it. Really fun allrounder, does everything it is advertised to do, that's for sure.
Super easy to get on a wave, nose rides really nicely, and turns really well off the tail.
Super thin rails that at my 100kg stay submerged most of the time. I am still getting used to the domed deck and have to really narrow my stance on this board, but nice and stable for the main part. Only a bit tippy for me if I'm side on to surge from backwash off the rocks, or off the beach at high tide. I've always encountered this though, a phenomenon I call the "hidey tideys"
My only concern was how it would handle a wally beach break, but this morning I just went back to the tail and stalled it when it looked like I was going to eat sand. The glide on this thing is outstanding, which is handy when trying to outrun a beating as well...
Easy to paddle out and shove the long nose through the lip, and I'm enjoying that familiar shudder of the longer timber boards.
Bit early to tell how durable it is, but so far so good.
All in all very happy with my choice

Know what you're talking about with the wood flex feel, Brenno.
Was getting glassy silky smooth BnB tiptime in the fog, that changed when the wind came in putting lines through the wave face , very noticeable vibration flex from the chop on steep faces .

I have the 9'9 JL BnB Machine - a real old school singlefin noserider. Can't see how it could be improved to be honest. Noserides great. Turns easily. A total keeper of a board!

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10' x 28" 127 L, 8 or so kilos.
I had a few breaky beers after night shift a couple of weeks ago, next thing I know this turns up at my house. Ooops
So far I'm really enjoying it. Really fun allrounder, does everything it is advertised to do, that's for sure.
Super easy to get on a wave, nose rides really nicely, and turns really well off the tail.
Super thin rails that at my 100kg stay submerged most of the time. I am still getting used to the domed deck and have to really narrow my stance on this board, but nice and stable for the main part. Only a bit tippy for me if I'm side on to surge from backwash off the rocks, or off the beach at high tide. I've always encountered this though, a phenomenon I call the "hidey tideys"
My only concern was how it would handle a wally beach break, but this morning I just went back to the tail and stalled it when it looked like I was going to eat sand. The glide on this thing is outstanding, which is handy when trying to outrun a beating as well...
Easy to paddle out and shove the long nose through the lip, and I'm enjoying that familiar shudder of the longer timber boards.
Bit early to tell how durable it is, but so far so good.
All in all very happy with my choice

I love this width in a longboard sup. Super loose. I still have a 120l 9x28 PSH AA that sometimes still gets used. Great board. But I am 15 kilos lighter than you and for my 28wide is only smooth water. You must be a master

I've been spending some time on the JL 10' Destroyer. Decided to get back on the SUP after a few years Foil surfing. Prefer the 10'er over ANYTHING Couldn't get a SUNOVA Style so I thought I would try the JL as the dimensions seemed right and the weight is pretty good. Pretty impressed. 29" is the right width for me and the volume is spot on. I can only compare it to the STYLE. It is def faster down the line, turns sweet off the tail and catches just about everything. So far so good.

SupBoarder Pro has a great review of 6 longboards that just came out. Really in-depth and thoughtful. Learned alot about shapes just from watching them.

Not affiliated.

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Gboots said..
Any thoughts on these boards ?
Its an interesting range of lengths for the one board .
I can't work out which one would be best for a lighter weight person

ecsboards-australia.com.au/collections/sup-boards/products/mckee-turbo-latest-model?variant=37681523228864

I have also been looking at these myself GBoots...
Very curious to hear if anyone has tried the 10ft x 28.... absolutely catching my eye at the moment... Prob a bit heavier than some other construction types but the overall shape looks sleek and screams performance.....

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Emeboy said..

Gboots said..
Any thoughts on these boards ?
Its an interesting range of lengths for the one board .
I can't work out which one would be best for a lighter weight person

ecsboards-australia.com.au/collections/sup-boards/products/mckee-turbo-latest-model?variant=37681523228864

I have also been looking at these myself GBoots...
Very curious to hear if anyone has tried the 10ft x 28.... absolutely catching my eye at the moment... Prob a bit heavier than some other construction types but the overall shape looks sleek and screams performance.....

I have an ECS noserider and it is light and strong so I would guess this would be light as well.

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wazza66 said..
Been riding my 10 ft x 28 x 4.25 DEEP board for the past 2 years. Set up as a thruster it surfs so well and turns on a dime. Not a full rounded nose but a semi which can still be ridden up he nose when needed.
Paddles into waves very easily.
Very thin rails and lots of tail kick help too.

How do you find your deep for durability?

Great. 4 years old. Only damage from tripping over a rock in the Alley car park!