I have windsurfed earlier version Slingshot and Naish boards/foils.

I have also wake surfed on the earlier NP and Naish and foils.

Friends have the Army and Lift foils - waiting for Covid19 to subside to try them.

I am curious as to whether I get a board with a mast track (e.g.; JP) and use windsurf rigs for awhile or just go learn with a wing immediately.

My thought is being familiar with windsurfing would increase the learning curve - any thoughts appreciated.

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jrc22ski said..
I have windsurfed earlier version Slingshot and Naish boards/foils.

I have also wake surfed on the earlier NP and Naish and foils.

Friends have the Army and Lift foils - waiting for Covid19 to subside to try them.

I am curious as to whether I get a board with a mast track (e.g.; JP) and use windsurf rigs for awhile or just go learn with a wing immediately.

My thought is being familiar with windsurfing would increase the learning curve - any thoughts appreciated.

IMO.. Learn with a wing immediately.

I had some wing ding success!!

Got out on the river today in quite gusty up and down winds around 15 to 20 knots and managed quite a few good long controlled runs up on the foil.

I was getting up foiling consistently on my good side and felt nicely in control, I even managed 2 jibes up on the foil but lost speed once I was on the other tack. Coming back in was a whole other story, I couldn't get up foiling riding either toeside or switch and I kept falling off as riding along at low speed it was difficult to stay up in the chop. I have been kiting a fair while so riding toeside or switch is not a new thing for me, I will get it eventually but also wondering if anyone has any tips on how to get this sorted??

I also noticed that as I am riding along with the wing sheeted in so I can go upwind my back arm is bent like I am doing a bicep curl. This puts a fair bit of strain on that muscle and gets a bit difficult after a while. Is that normal or am I doing it wrong? I will end up with biceps like old school Arnie if i keep this up.

One nice thing that is very different from kiting is that the up and down gusty winds weren't nearly so difficult to deal with. At one stage a nasty squall came in with sideways rain. If you have a kite up when a big squall hits it can be really quite dangerous and requires your full focus. Today I just sat on my board with a hand on the wing to keep it down and I was just fully chilling, I could have even had a beer if there was one available

Lots of things to work out but stoked to get flying!

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Youngbreezy said..
I had some wing ding success!!

Got out on the river today in quite gusty up and down winds around 15 to 20 knots and managed quite a few good long controlled runs up on the foil.

I was getting up foiling consistently on my good side and felt nicely in control, I even managed 2 jibes up on the foil but lost speed once I was on the other tack. Coming back in was a whole other story, I couldn't get up foiling riding either toeside or switch and I kept falling off as riding along at low speed it was difficult to stay up in the chop. I have been kiting a fair while so riding toeside or switch is not a new thing for me, I will get it eventually but also wondering if anyone has any tips on how to get this sorted??

I also noticed that as I am riding along with the wing sheeted in so I can go upwind my back arm is bent like I am doing a bicep curl. This puts a fair bit of strain on that muscle and gets a bit difficult after a while. Is that normal or am I doing it wrong? I will end up with biceps like old school Arnie if i keep this up.

One nice thing that is very different from kiting is that the up and down gusty winds weren't nearly so difficult to deal with. At one stage a nasty squall came in with sideways rain. If you have a kite up when a big squall hits it can be really quite dangerous and requires your full focus. Today I just sat on my board with a hand on the wing to keep it down and I was just fully chilling, I could have even had a beer if there was one available

Lots of things to work out but stoked to get flying!

Great stuff!!

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Youngbreezy said..
I had some wing ding success!!

Got out on the river today in quite gusty up and down winds around 15 to 20 knots and managed quite a few good long controlled runs up on the foil.

I was getting up foiling consistently on my good side and felt nicely in control, I even managed 2 jibes up on the foil but lost speed once I was on the other tack. Coming back in was a whole other story, I couldn't get up foiling riding either toeside or switch and I kept falling off as riding along at low speed it was difficult to stay up in the chop. I have been kiting a fair while so riding toeside or switch is not a new thing for me, I will get it eventually but also wondering if anyone has any tips on how to get this sorted??

I also noticed that as I am riding along with the wing sheeted in so I can go upwind my back arm is bent like I am doing a bicep curl. This puts a fair bit of strain on that muscle and gets a bit difficult after a while. Is that normal or am I doing it wrong? I will end up with biceps like old school Arnie if i keep this up.

One nice thing that is very different from kiting is that the up and down gusty winds weren't nearly so difficult to deal with. At one stage a nasty squall came in with sideways rain. If you have a kite up when a big squall hits it can be really quite dangerous and requires your full focus. Today I just sat on my board with a hand on the wing to keep it down and I was just fully chilling, I could have even had a beer if there was one available

Lots of things to work out but stoked to get flying!

Great you got out. Was very gusty. My toeside is woeful as well. It is nice to flip the wing and rest. No freaking out.

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I also noticed that as I am riding along with the wing sheeted in so I can go upwind my back arm is bent like I am doing a bicep curl. This puts a fair bit of strain on that muscle and gets a bit difficult after a while. Is that normal or am I doing it wrong?

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Youngbreezy said..

I also noticed that as I am riding along with the wing sheeted in so I can go upwind my back arm is bent like I am doing a bicep curl. This puts a fair bit of strain on that muscle and gets a bit difficult after a while. Is that normal or am I doing it wrong?

Try moving your front hand back and maybe your back hand back also and see how that goes.

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jrc22ski said..
I have windsurfed earlier version Slingshot and Naish boards/foils.

I have also wake surfed on the earlier NP and Naish and foils.

Friends have the Army and Lift foils - waiting for Covid19 to subside to try them.

I am curious as to whether I get a board with a mast track (e.g.; JP) and use windsurf rigs for awhile or just go learn with a wing immediately.

My thought is being familiar with windsurfing would increase the learning curve - any thoughts appreciated.

I would also advice to skip the windfoiling phase and get wingfoil equipment straight away.
If you're not into racing and tuning equipment, wingfoiling is way more fun.
I had been windfoiling for 2 years before I tried a friend's wingfoil last september.
Haven't been windfoiling since.
Plus : Wingfoiling learning curve is sound as you have full control with your feet.
With windfoiling, the extra pressure applied through mast foot comes in the mix like a disturbance.
Big plus : wingfoil allows you to forget the wing and surf ocean swell.

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Pierre74 said..

jrc22ski said..
I have windsurfed earlier version Slingshot and Naish boards/foils.

I have also wake surfed on the earlier NP and Naish and foils.

Friends have the Army and Lift foils - waiting for Covid19 to subside to try them.

I am curious as to whether I get a board with a mast track (e.g.; JP) and use windsurf rigs for awhile or just go learn with a wing immediately.

My thought is being familiar with windsurfing would increase the learning curve - any thoughts appreciated.

I would also advice to skip the windfoiling phase and get wingfoil equipment straight away.
If you're not into racing and tuning equipment, wingfoiling is way more fun.
I had been windfoiling for 2 years before I tried a friend's wingfoil last september.
Haven't been windfoiling since.
Plus : Wingfoiling learning curve is sound as you have full control with your feet.
With windfoiling, the extra pressure applied through mast foot comes in the mix like a disturbance.
Big plus : wingfoil allows you to forget the wing and surf ocean swell.

Got it and thank you for the input.

Life - long windsurfer and not into racing / tuning.

reefwarriors.wordpress.com/2019/12/10/wingy-dingy-thingy-vs-wwf-comparison/

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Lecum said..
reefwarriors.wordpress.com/2019/12/10/wingy-dingy-thingy-vs-wwf-comparison/

That guy has no idea

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hilly said..

Lecum said..
reefwarriors.wordpress.com/2019/12/10/wingy-dingy-thingy-vs-wwf-comparison/

That guy has no idea

25 to 35 knots....... must have been on a 1m wing.

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bigtone667 said..

hilly said..

Lecum said..
reefwarriors.wordpress.com/2019/12/10/wingy-dingy-thingy-vs-wwf-comparison/

That guy has no idea

25 to 35 knots....... must have been on a 1m wing.

And on his Wind foil board, I know a few guys that have tried to wing on their wind foil boards without much success.

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hilly said. That guy has no idea

What do you disagree with?

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hilly said..

That guy has no idea

Agree 100% that guy is way off. Speaking as a guy who does both

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azymuth said..

hilly said. That guy has no idea

What do you disagree with?

Everything he said about what wings can do. He admitted to being biased and he certainly was.