Is there anybody with a production KT that has put it on the scales? Do they come in under 6kg as published?

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baldy123 said..
Is there anybody with a production KT that has put it on the scales? Do they come in under 6kg as published?

The 7'7 comes at 5.6 kg

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baldy123 said..
Is there anybody with a production KT that has put it on the scales? Do they come in under 6kg as published?

I have a 6,9" - 95L production board and it is 4,9kg

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Fanda said..

baldy123 said..
Is there anybody with a production KT that has put it on the scales? Do they come in under 6kg as published?

I have a 6,9" - 95L production board and it is 4,9kg

Looking at that one, too...
what's your weight?
How stable does it feel?
Have you tried others?
How easily do you expect it to ding? i.e. lightweight but fragile?

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randomfoiler said..

Fanda said..

baldy123 said..
Is there anybody with a production KT that has put it on the scales? Do they come in under 6kg as published?

I have a 6,9" - 95L production board and it is 4,9kg

Looking at that one, too...
what's your weight?
How stable does it feel?
Have you tried others?
How easily do you expect it to ding? i.e. lightweight but fragile?

My weight is 75kg +-
KT feels more stable than the Amstrong 96L 6,9". Still trying to figure out why because the shape of KT should not be more stable, but it is. I was surprised the first time I went on the board.
It is super easy to ketch bums with the KT board. There is no sticking like the Amstrong board has. It works well in the river or ocean swell. (HR-Maui)

The construction of KT feels good, but it will be easy to ding because it is lightweight compared to the Amstrong board, which is significantly heavier, 5,8kg, and probably more durable. But the lightweight KT board feels good when I am on it, and it feels more high-performance rail to rail when I am on foil.
Fanda

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It is super easy to ketch bums with the KT board. There is no sticking like the Amstrong board has. It works well in the river or ocean swell. (HR-Maui)

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Maybe it's the different tail of of the KT, also the Gong Cruzader has a "tailkick" like the KT, whereas boards like Barracuda or Armstrong have a straight tailrocker

Any more feedback on the dragonfly?

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wanabxtrm said..
Any more feedback on the dragonfly?

After a month of using it, I rate it 10/10. It is my first dedicated downwind board, and I find it absolutely perfect. The stability is great, it feels much smaller than its length and surfs extremely well. Here is one of my latest runs on a small day.

Anyone using the 7"7 110 ltr board at 90 kg dry
for unbroken swell sup foil ..

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Zuidy said..
Anyone using the 7"7 110 ltr board at 90 kg dry
for unbroken swell sup foil ..

80 kg here, for 90 kg may be ok, but the 8,2 may a better option

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Hi!










I'm a 83kg guy and want to start with flatwater start and downwind foiling, I'm from Mallorca Spain, so we have really short period swell, really small waves, and winds from 12 to 18 knots.

What kind of KT board dimension do you reccomend me? 110 (7`7, 8`2)? How difficult is the balance?

I have a huge experience with winging, dockstarting, beachstarting, kitefoiling, windfoiling. But paddle almost nothing, just in the weekends with my girlfriend and maybe have fun with a big board in small waves.

Hi!
I'm a 83kg guy and want to start with flatwater start and downwind foiling, I'm from Mallorca Spain, so we have really short period swell, really small waves, and winds from 12 to 18 knots.

What kind of KT board dimension do you reccomend me? 110 (7`7, 8`2)? How difficult is the balance?

I have a huge experience with winging, dockstarting, beachstarting, kitefoiling, wind foiling. But paddle almost nothing, just in the weekends with my girlfriend and maybe have fun with a big board in small waves.

I (75kg) have switched to a 6.6x18 (88L) dragonfly for winging as a secondary board to my sinker (45L).
I have (at least currently) no interest in using it as a DW board with a paddle but might try to paddle it up in flat water at some point.

Having tried a 7 foot x 19 100L board (different brand), I was slightly concerned that I might have gone too small, but it tracks and starts just as well as the 100L with barely any wind.
Once flying it feels very similar to my previous 5-foot board - I do, however, enjoy the reduced width (18 vs 23.5).
The extra thickness doesn't negatively impact pumping compared to the former 65L. In fact, I am quite amazed by how well it pumps...

After 2y on 65L and below, it took almost an entire session to get used again to a "board I can not sink", and there the thickness is very noticeable when trying to get back onto it.

In terms of stability, it feels perfectly fine for winging. It didn't roll me off like the 100L DW board did but that might be because I was expecting "roll" issues. The reduced length of 6.6 pretty much determines where you can stand - once dialed in, standing while waiting for wind is no problem. The longer board was a little bit more forgiving.
Not sure about the 3rd (front) pad on the small board. For my weight and foil setup I need to keep my front foot on pad 2.

As for the weight - It came at 4542gr. It does feel crazy light and makes you wonder how solid it is...
After 3 rolls of rail tape, it is now 4.8kg.
Most of the tape went to where I expect to possibly hit it with the paddle at some point ... Having a bag seems like a good idea.

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Zuidy said..
Anyone using the 7"7 110 ltr board at 90 kg dry
for unbroken swell sup foil ..

90 kg + 5mm wetsuit here, also interested to know sizing. Comfortably SUP foil a 115L Armstrong in chop and wonder if the 7.7 would be pushing it for DW at my weight?

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Windoc said..

Zuidy said..
Anyone using the 7"7 110 ltr board at 90 kg dry
for unbroken swell sup foil ..

90 kg + 5mm wetsuit here, also interested to know sizing. Comfortably SUP foil a 115L Armstrong in chop and wonder if the 7.7 would be pushing it for DW at my weight?

I have the 7,7 at 80 kg. You can ride the 7,7 at 90 kg, it will just require 2 or 3 more strokes to start.
I tested the 7,4 and it was also fine.

Loving the 95 L for winging. 72 kg. 631 cm2 front wing, 155 cm2 stabiliser:



Haven't been able to paddle it up yet (it's kind of promising, but not yet happening).

I have the 7"7 at 90 kg and love this board for light wind wing . I have only tried to paddle it once with some success at my weight + all the winter gear .
These boards are so light and nimble they also pump amazingly..

I recently picked up my 7'.7". I've had 2 flat water sessions for paddle ups and 2 wing sessions, the latest being today in 25-30 knots on a 3M. 90kgs plus winter suit. WOW! I had no idea the DW board would be as much fun as it was tearing up Gorge-style swell in 30 knots on a wing but the narrow width is insane for banking tight turns and there's little swing weight. Had my foil maxed to the front yet never felt the tail touch except during the odd low-height pump. I didn't even miss my little board I usually ride in high wind. Time to start sending the downwinders soon!

Too stoked to refrain from frothing...I paddled the 110 for the first time in the surf today (waist to shoulder high) and I'm completely gobsmacked by how early the board gets into the wave. I was pretty worried I'd be flailing just standing in the SE bump while getting into position, but it was absolutely doable. I was literally putting half the effort into paddling to get into the wave compared to my well-loved Armstrong FG board, and my forward speed made launching the foil early super easy. I think you can easily run a smaller size down front foil than usual on these boards as they take off so fast. Turning was great with the narrow 20" width and it pumped quite well too. Had my Armstrong rig fully forward and it felt perfect. As a bonus, knee paddling back out was super glidey and fast, which means more waves ridden per session. It really highlighted how slow "regular" foil SUPs are to paddle. Heavy current and bigger chop will be tougher on the DW board, but too many other negatives come to mind. I suppose the length is a drawback in certain situations, but I never caught my nose or tail in turns today. Happy I didn't go for less volume. Yet to try DW on it but hopefully some short sends soon.

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Windoc said..
Too stoked to refrain from frothing...I paddled the 110 for the first time in the surf today (waist to shoulder high) and I'm completely gobsmacked by how early the board gets into the wave. I was pretty worried I'd be flailing just standing in the SE bump while getting into position, but it was absolutely doable. I was literally putting half the effort into paddling to get into the wave compared to my well-loved Armstrong FG board, and my forward speed made launching the foil early super easy. I think you can easily run a smaller size down front foil than usual on these boards as they take off so fast. Turning was great with the narrow 20" width and it pumped quite well too. Had my Armstrong rig fully forward and it felt perfect. As a bonus, knee paddling back out was super glidey and fast, which means more waves ridden per session. It really highlighted how slow "regular" foil SUPs are to paddle. Heavy current and bigger chop will be tougher on the DW board, but too many other negatives come to mind. I suppose the length is a drawback in certain situations, but I never caught my nose or tail in turns today. Happy I didn't go for less volume. Yet to try DW on it but hopefully some short sends soon.

Do you feel like you could "float and ride" on one of these in severely marginal winging conditions at a surf break?

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Grantmac said..

Do you feel like you could "float and ride" on one of these in severely marginal winging conditions at a surf break?

Is severely marginal float and ride a thing in winging? If you're not foiling, there's no riding. But if you mean barely foiling and self towing into a wave, then yes, this is the ticket. The applications and use case scenarios for the DW board are many!

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Windoc said..

Grantmac said..

Do you feel like you could "float and ride" on one of these in severely marginal winging conditions at a surf break?

Is severely marginal float and ride a thing in winging? If you're not foiling, there's no riding. But if you mean barely foiling and self towing into a wave, then yes, this is the ticket. The applications and use case scenarios for the DW board are many!

I mean the days where you can't foil off the beach but have to slog out through the break then use a combo of wing and swell to get going.
Our local "friendly" surf break comes to mind.

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I mean the days where you can't foil off the beach but have to slog out through the break then use a combo of wing and swell to get going.
Our local "friendly" surf break comes to mind.

Personally I want no part of bobbing around a break off-foil with a wing in sub 6 knots. It would be too unstable and the chances of tearing the wing are too high being a sitting duck. Fortunately if you have 6-8 knots minimum, you can be up and foiling. If it's less than that, prone or SUP foil it.

Foiling in 8kts is not happening for me at present, or rather getting going in 8kts. Need a solid 10-12kts to even think about it and expect to get well trashed trying to make it out.
Sounds like a board such as this might fill those 8-12kt days though.

Surfing with the Dragonfly is so much fun. I used to do SUP foiling on a 6.0 x 27, but the Dragonfly is much better in every aspect. Here's a short video of me and my friends surfing on small waves. I love this board.

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dk78 said..
Surfing with the Dragonfly is so much fun. I used to do SUP foiling on a 6.0 x 27, but the Dragonfly is much better in every aspect. Here's a short video of me and my friends surfing on small waves. I love this board.

Gorgeous spot! Last weekend we surfed head high waves with some longer period juice and the DFly was the perfect tool for getting in early. I'd been frustrated not being able to get good lean angles on my previous SUP for fear of catching the rails. No problem on the KT. Felt like groomer snowboard carves at high speed in the bottom turns. So fun.

An unexpected benefit (at least to me) to the longer shape of the Dragonfly or other DW shapes is the added pitch stability at speed and through turns. I'm able to push my foils to higher top speeds for longer periods of time without those spikes in pitch instability and I feel much more confident turning harder at higher speeds while wave riding. I can get the benefit of stability from the board length and the looser feel through a shorter fuse and 79.5cm mast. The roll/carving responsive is addictive and all of this on a 110L! Hopping back on my smaller, 72L board, I've noticed that I'm transferring the DW board skills to a more nimble board with good results too.