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Scotty Mac said..

hilly said..

Scotty Mac said.. (not using to potter in an out)

I love the cruise control to get back out especially against the wind. Helps with stability as well.

Yer sometimes I do that too Hilly but when I know I want a super long session I save the battery for catching waves. If I know I am only going to be out there a couple of hours I do the cruise control for sure!

I have 2 batteries and can charge a battery in my car. So, I run out of puff before the foil drive does.

i just got one of these, but can't figure out how to modify the throttle limit on the controller. asked the question of foil drive support, but they take days to respond sometimes. anybody out there know how to do that? it comes with default 100% throttle limit, but i want 40%. Can get to the throttle limit screen option on the controller, but don't see any way of actually changing the value.

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beached57 said..
i just got one of these, but can't figure out how to modify the throttle limit on the controller. asked the question of foil drive support, but they take days to respond sometimes. anybody out there know how to do that? it comes with default 100% throttle limit, but i want 40%. Can get to the throttle limit screen option on the controller, but don't see any way of actually changing the value.

Also you should join the FB group too, a lot of good info there and fast response time.

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beached57 said..
i just got one of these, but can't figure out how to modify the throttle limit on the controller. asked the question of foil drive support, but they take days to respond sometimes. anybody out there know how to do that? it comes with default 100% throttle limit, but i want 40%. Can get to the throttle limit screen option on the controller, but don't see any way of actually changing the value.

Easy when you get the hang of short push v long push of the button.

thx guys, that helped a lot. wish that video was some place obvious on their website but i couldn't find it anywhere.

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beached57 said..
thx guys, that helped a lot. wish that video was some place obvious on their website but i couldn't find it anywhere.

I just read the manual that came with the foil drive in the box. Explains how to adjust the functions.

Curious why you want 40%? I struggle to get up on the foil with 100% @ 105kg I wish they had 120%

Watch out Hilly, Lewis just got his. No wave is safe anymore !!

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eppo said..
Watch out Hilly, Lewis just got his. No wave is safe anymore !!

Yes I know. He is going through the learning curve. It is not plug and play, more like a new sport.

It's good to see him being mortal for Once .won't take him long

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hilly said..

beached57 said..
thx guys, that helped a lot. wish that video was some place obvious on their website but i couldn't find it anywhere.

I just read the manual that came with the foil drive in the box. Explains how to adjust the functions.

Curious why you want 40%? I struggle to get up on the foil with 100% @ 105kg I wish they had 120%

maybe they updated the manual. mine says nothing about it nor could i find anything about it on their website. (i don't do Facebook). and you're right about the percentages. i tried yesterday at 40% and went nowhere. changed to 60%, still nothing. put back to 100% and finally got moving and foiling. i'm only 90kgs. i originally wanted 40% because that's about what i used previously on an actual efoil. learned quick this ain't an efoil!

What board and foil set up are you using? I was fortunate to have a go with a plus system the other day and set it up on my 5'4" on 110 litre board with my go foil RS1300 and was able to e-foil quite happily for atleast 30 mins or so. Had to give a couple of gentle paddle strokes to lift off but once up I was flying along sometimes between 80 and 100 percent power. I am 94kg. I own a assist system and using it surfing a lot.

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beached57 said..this ain't an efoil!

A lot lighter and cheaper. The name "Foil Drive Assist" gives a big clue about what it is best at, helping you catch waves and paddle back out. Which it does very well. Once on the wave you can ride it almost as well as a normal sup foil, efoils cannot do that.

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hilly said..

beached57 said..this ain't an efoil!

A lot lighter and cheaper. The name "Foil Drive Assist" gives a big clue about what it is best at, helping you catch waves and paddle back out. Which it does very well. Once on the wave you can ride it almost as well as a normal sup foil, efoils cannot do that.

Is there much drag when not assisting and on a wave but not foiling?

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warwickl said.. Is there much drag when not assisting and on a wave but not foiling?

None as the motor pod is up out of the water.
Watch the videos here www.foildrive.com.au/

on third session today and really noticed how much harder it is in even slightly choppy water. really couldn't get going. i'm on a 4'10" custom board, 98L. Since I can't really SUP this thing, it's all about the motor getting me going. I tried with a paddle, but it just made things worse. if i do actually get up on foil, i find it starts flying really fast, then i back off the throttle, and it drops like a rock. i'm sure this is all about finesse with the throttle, but right now i've got none. also, the battery wears out in about 20 minutes and took 4 hours to recharge, so my learning curve is awfully low at 20 minutes per day. i'm hoping once i get better, that 20 minutes is at least doubled.

Little clip of my first few runs on the Foil Drive Plus:

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hilly said..

warwickl said.. Is there much drag when not assisting and on a wave but not foiling?

None as the motor pod is up out of the water.
Watch the videos here www.foildrive.com.au/

I understand that.
My question was inregard to drag when not foiling ie motor is still in the water.?
Wondering how it is on a wave non foiling and for touchdowns when not operating.?

after fully charging my battery (according to the battery charger), i plug in my battery and the display shows blacks bars about half way up thru the display. is that normal, or do you guys see bars filling the entire display when full? just wondering why my battery lasts so short.

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after fully charging my battery (according to the battery charger), i plug in my battery and the display shows blacks bars about half way up thru the display. is that normal, or do you guys see bars filling the entire display when full? just wondering why my battery lasts so short.

It says 100% on the display in the battery box.

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warwickl said..

hilly said..

warwickl said.. Is there much drag when not assisting and on a wave but not foiling?

None as the motor pod is up out of the water.
Watch the videos here www.foildrive.com.au/

I understand that.
My question was inregard to drag when not foiling ie motor is still in the water.?
Wondering how it is on a wave non foiling and for touchdowns when not operating.?

That makes no sense. Why would you be on a wave non foiling?
Touchdowns there is more drag but it is survivable. Does not throw you over the bars.

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warwickl said..

hilly said..

warwickl said.. Is there much drag when not assisting and on a wave but not foiling?

None as the motor pod is up out of the water.
Watch the videos here www.foildrive.com.au/

I understand that.
My question was inregard to drag when not foiling ie motor is still in the water.?
Wondering how it is on a wave non foiling and for touchdowns when not operating.?

Depends where you have the motor mounted on your mast
mounted high (closer to the board) the drag only exists when starting off and you are using the motor to overcome all the water drag on the board, mast, foils etc once foiling the motor is in the air and has no drag whatsoever

mounted lower down the mast (closer to the fuselage) is usually used for efoiling and again the motor is easily overcoming the drag caused by itself

im experimenting with my FD on a lower volume prone board and I had the motor mounted about 1/2 way down my 80cm mast. The drag of the motor whilst paddling for a wave (motor not running) was very noticeable and no way I could generate enough speed prone paddling on unbroken waves to catch a wave. So yes, the drag is significant when the motor is in the water and unpowered. At all other times the speed/height on foil and/or motor providing thrust make the drag insignificant or non existent

if you come down to Sydney Northern Beaches you're welcome to try my FD (GoFoil masts) for a wing, SUP or efoil

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camerongraham said..

warwickl said..

hilly said..

warwickl said.. Is there much drag when not assisting and on a wave but not foiling?

None as the motor pod is up out of the water.
Watch the videos here www.foildrive.com.au/

I understand that.
My question was inregard to drag when not foiling ie motor is still in the water.?
Wondering how it is on a wave non foiling and for touchdowns when not operating.?

Depends where you have the motor mounted on your mast
mounted high (closer to the board) the drag only exists when starting off and you are using the motor to overcome all the water drag on the board, mast, foils etc once foiling the motor is in the air and has no drag whatsoever

mounted lower down the mast (closer to the fuselage) is usually used for efoiling and again the motor is easily overcoming the drag caused by itself

im experimenting with my FD on a lower volume prone board and I had the motor mounted about 1/2 way down my 80cm mast. The drag of the motor whilst paddling for a wave (motor not running) was very noticeable and no way I could generate enough speed prone paddling on unbroken waves to catch a wave. So yes, the drag is significant when the motor is in the water and unpowered. At all other times the speed/height on foil and/or motor providing thrust make the drag insignificant or non existent

if you come down to Sydney Northern Beaches you're welcome to try my FD (GoFoil masts) for a wing, SUP or efoil

I do not find the drag of the motor as bad as I thought it would be. Have mine about 200mm down on a 80cm mast and it dips in every now and then. I can pump back up without the motor if on a decent swell.
Oscars comments in the video below sold me on the foil drive.

I tried winging with the pod in Efoil mode, difficult as unless really powered you slowed down and came off the foil. So yes, the pod has a big impact if located lower down the mast.

I just wrapped up session #2 with my FoilDrive. Working on placement of the battery pack on the board, but so far it's been fun. I have a question regarding battery chemistry & the remaining power readout in the system.
I noticed that the readout "rebounds" after a run. The most extreme example was end of session last night. On the water, I saw 8% remaining power after my last wave attempt (a run at 100% for maybe 10 seconds). when packing up afterwards, the readout showed 33% remaining. I could have stayed out a little longer!

I'm assuming this is normal. How does everyone else manage this to extract optimal time on the water?

Give the battery a break and hold heat sink in water and charge comes back up as it cools. At least thats how it seems to me. If I do this a few times I can use entire battery.

The 33% is the correct resting battery percentage. When you discharging it(at use) the battery voltage drop and voltage drop significantly more as it deplete toward empty. The power readout is just translating battery voltage and that is why you see the bounce up as the battery rest and the voltage stabilized. That is normal, but I won't use it till it hit 0%(at resting) as it dramatically lower the battery lifecycle. From what I read, you want to stay about 20-30 percent at resting power readout.

Dominic pushing the boundaries again

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hilly said..

beached57 said..
thx guys, that helped a lot. wish that video was some place obvious on their website but i couldn't find it anywhere.

I just read the manual that came with the foil drive in the box. Explains how to adjust the functions.

Curious why you want 40%? I struggle to get up on the foil with 100% @ 105kg I wish they had 120%

I'll soon have 2 motors :)

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Lindz1510 said..

hilly said..

beached57 said..
thx guys, that helped a lot. wish that video was some place obvious on their website but i couldn't find it anywhere.

I just read the manual that came with the foil drive in the box. Explains how to adjust the functions.

Curious why you want 40%? I struggle to get up on the foil with 100% @ 105kg I wish they had 120%

I'll soon have 2 motors :)

Like this?

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hilly said..

Scotty Mac said..

hilly said..

Scotty Mac said.. (not using to potter in an out)

I love the cruise control to get back out especially against the wind. Helps with stability as well.

Yer sometimes I do that too Hilly but when I know I want a super long session I save the battery for catching waves. If I know I am only going to be out there a couple of hours I do the cruise control for sure!

I have 2 batteries and can charge a battery in my car. So, I run out of puff before the foil drive does.

How do you charge the FD battery from your car?

Do you have an inverter for the standard charger or adaptor lead from a deep cycle?