2 cabin 40.3 foot Jeanneau!

so is other yacht sold ?

Yep done and dusted! Hate selling yachts and hate buying! Looks like im living out of a bag and guitar case for a bit!

Hi Southace

Is this any good www.boatsalestas.com.au/sail-monohulls/jeanneau-409-charisma/148236/ or this one www.boatsalestas.com.au/sail-monohulls/elliot-1250-tourer-jamarkiri/127562/

Regards Don

yep lots of them in hobart , i recon thats where you will find one

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southace said...
Yep done and dusted! Hate selling yachts and hate buying! Looks like im living out of a bag and guitar case for a bit!

Congratulations on the sale. I won't be so rude as to ask what price you got. I hope you got a good price so that you can move on to your next yacht.

If you find your bag and guitar case a little cramped, I have a very good Falcon Panel Van for sale. A perfect vehicle for the roving seaman to live out of while searching for his next ship.

Thanks but no thanks! Already have one car laying idol while I'm away working.
My budget is 200k but it seems nothing on the market at present that's going to satisfy my current wish list!
I would have purchased this baby subject to full buyers survey if I could have knocked off $50 k but it seems some still have money to buy new toys!


yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/jeanneau-42ds/82806

Come on mate. You know enough about boats to do your own survey.

On the water, go through the boat like a dose of salts. If you are happy with that, say to the guy "OK, let's put her on the slip. If on the underwater inspection there are no defects, I pay. If there are defects, you pay."

If you are happy with the yacht, hit him fair between the eyes. Say "I have $200k and that could be in your account this afternoon or tomorrow. If you need time to think about it or you need to talk with your missus, I will be in my car over there for the next 10 minutes."

He has to fish or cut bait.

You might not use those exact words but that is the mind set to be in. You have just been through it from the other side. It is a buyer's market.

I paid $28k for Second Wind and I did it on the spot. No slipping, no survey and the money was in his account that afternoon. Some would say that is reckless and risky behavior. I will admit to risky. A calculated risk. The purchase was made after months of market research and product research. If you have not done that yet, don't buy anything.

My $28k is probably worth as much to me as your $200k. I am really happy with Second Wind even though I need to do a solid 6 months work (yeah, yeah, that will turn into 12 or 18 before you are finished) to get her the way I want her. I took her out today and my mate said to me that he thought it was the best boat I had owned since my Petersen 42. I said I thought it was the best boat I had ever owned.

When you have found the right boat southace, you will feel it in your bones, but you already know that don't you??

Attack like a Falcon and fly like an Eagle.

Well for starters I need a survey done as I will be having full comprehensive insurance.....

it may also be possible that I may put a offer in subject to a survey and my final inspection.....

A survey can end up being cheaper than me wasting money on flights and accommodation to go and view a boat that is nothing like its advertised.

I have a few good surveyors in 3 different states that I can trust for a good honest report.

How much is a moisture meter to hire I wonder? Did you check your hull for moisture in the laminate?

I would recommend anyone spending more than $50k to get a survey and full comprehensive insurance.

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southace said...
Yep done and dusted! Hate selling yachts and hate buying! Looks like im living out of a bag and guitar case for a bit!

Well south ace my boat always there if you needed some where to sleep

Southace for your interest we looked at a 42DS that was near new back in 2007.

I did a test delivery from Mandurah to Fremantle in a honking sea breeze, and I have to say it moved quickly on a reach (over 10 knots) but it did not feel good. The small wheels were too heavily loaded for comfort and the yacht has such high freeboard and cockpit combings you feel quite removed from the experience.

We had it slipped and found water leaking out of the keel joint so that was the end of that.

Amazes me how anyone can be interested in a Ikea style yacht meaning junk thrown together to look good .
Cast iron keels, boat pre fabricated manafactured one full yacht a day , give me a yacht that is made from a shipwright with real wood fit out lead keel, chain plates that are well glassed to the hull not bolted to the bulkhead where water gets in and rots it $200,000 buys lots of boats look carefully and you will get craftmanship

It seems most European yachts use cast iron keels the Hunters use lead....as most American made is only the best god knows why people bag them. The Jeanneau is not so your ikea put together....they have a reputation for quality well built offshore yachts possibly even better than some handcrafted half drunken shipwrights.

As i live full time on a yacht i have had the privlige of watching yachts on anchor and moorings as a storm has swept in 50kt plus it is a real eye opener to watch these modern yachts sail around their rode and the crazy angle that they lean to.
Throw in some serious wave action and they are not the sort of boat i would like to be on out at sea.
All you have to do is estimate how much a Tophat yacht a compass 28, Clanesman etc would cost these days to the same glass strength to realize there has to be cost cuts somewhere.
Strength to me is confidence out at sea, as Alan Lucas once said he shudders when he thinks about going out to sea on a production boat.
As for drunken ship wrights i think that you are pulling a very long bow

There is a Hunter yacht on the hard stand at Tin Can Bay it was sailed over from the USA it has no back stays never had how it managed to sail down wind and not loose the rig beats me , but i am no rigger, the interesting thing is the spade rudder(shudder) it has been torn off no stainless rod to be seen just a bit of pathetic foam, but hey they are like a huge power boat come caravan with a stick on them and the women just love the inside exactly how they where desighned for the lady.

Hunters have a B & R rig for which no backstay is required.

What is a B&R rig?

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BORNFREEE said..

What is a B&R rig?

Bergstrom & Ridder

Hi, sorry to change the topic
What can a person expect to pay for a survey for insurance purposes?
Particularly in QLD

Between $650 and $1250 Qld .

H

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BORNFREEE said..

What is a B&R rig?

How will I go with HF if no backstay would I need to install a 10 foot whip antenna?

Ha ha ha good one southace

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There is a Hunter yacht on the hard stand at Tin Can Bay it was sailed over from the USA it has no back stays never had how it managed to sail down wind and not loose the rig beats me , but i am no rigger, the interesting thing is the spade rudder(shudder) it has been torn off no stainless rod to be seen just a bit of pathetic foam, but hey they are like a huge power boat come caravan with a stick on them and the women just love the inside exactly how they where desighned for the lady.

I would suspect they hit the reef...no different than any other spade rudder on cats or other yachts!
1980s boats yes built strong sail slow and have there own problems..... We are comparing HQ holdens to VF holdens here! How many HQs do you see driving around and seriously would you buy one now to use as your means of permanent transport?

What would you rather after a hard days sail ? A clanesman with pokey dark wet mouldy seats or a nice soft pure leather lounge with Kevlar reinforcements and a nice fast slick hull?

It's all a bit old school negativity!

Plenty of people living and cruising on 70s boats. My sister has a Valiant 40, I would back it against any modern cruising boat of that size as a passage maker. And it is tough.
S&s34s are also very good passage makers. Not much built in the past 20 years would compete.
An old hull with its design strength can be refitted with new reliable bit and pieces. It then provides a robust cruiser. Where they are often not as good is internal volume although the Valiant has good space.
I would prefer the Valiant 40 craftsman fit out with its comfortable sea kindly motion than a light white plastic interior in a bouncy slamming hull. It is horses for courses, we have different tastes. I have a 100 year old house, couldn't imagine living in a Cherrybrook brick veneer.

Ok let's just through the word technology into the trash.

I bet you guys don't drive old cars! Have the comfy electric everything models no doubt! I have a 90 year old yacht and just sold a 30 year old yacht...... I have full confidence in a good modern production yacht.....rather that than a $500,000 dollar one of shipwright built yacht that would most properly be the same seaworthiness as a current production yacht.

New doesn't guarantee better. Much modern technology is purely for fashion and is not better at sea. Modern hull technology largely revolves around speed for racing, that doesn't translate to better for anything else. Interiors are designed for cocktails, not living on at sea. It makes sense to the builder, most modern boats are used for that. Very very few go anywhere.

Well I seek a 4 meter beam in a 40 footer....that's my aim....tell me a pre 90s that has that beam?
You need to realise that most ship wrights come from apprenticeships which is a dying trade....you need to realise your new boat in Australia will be built by young apprentices with not a great deal of experience other than drinking,partying and picking up the lady's. they most properly could forget what percent catalyst was used on there last batch laying up a bulkhead...anyway production boats are built to standards with machines and machinery it's basically to avoid the lost production that us humans sometimes lack! I do have a very strong background in GRP and have seen it through and through. Most production boats are built to a stranded that can be sealed with approved blue water sailing.

If i was going to buy a cruiser for around 150-200 k , i would go for Island Packet , built to a very high standard , roomy and shallow draft .