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Retro Golden Globe Race

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garymalmgren
garymalmgren

1365 posts

4 Sep 2018 4:00pm
another one out
No picnic but Are Wiig showed some guts by sailing 400 miles to Capetown with a jury rig. Don't Leave the Boat!!
www.sailingscuttlebutt.com/2018/09/03/golden-globe-safe-arrival-cape-town/
garymalmgren
garymalmgren

1365 posts

4 Sep 2018 4:17pm
Actually I am barracking for Abhilash Tomy in his replica of Suhaili
This is the most recent Distance Run chart from Sailing Scuttlebutt
Look at his 24 hour run compared with the other boats.
Of course his position puts him where the winds are favorable , but still Impressive for an old tub.
gary

andy59
andy59

QLD

1156 posts

5 Sep 2018 8:18am
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garymalmgren said..
Actually I am barracking for Abhilash Tomy in his replica of Suhaili
This is the most recent Distance Run chart from Sailing Scuttlebutt
Look at his 24 hour run compared with the other boats.
Of course his position puts him where the winds are favorable , but still Impressive for an old tub.
gary



That's amazing the tracker has him doing 7.9 knots! Must be some current in that.
garymalmgren
garymalmgren

1365 posts

15 Sep 2018 7:29am
There is a great tussle on for third place.
Abhilash Tomy is closing in on McGurchin at 7.8 knots
Van Den Heede is way ahead, but still a long way to go.
goldengloberace.com/livetracker/
Gary
McNaughtical
McNaughtical

NSW

908 posts

16 Sep 2018 2:51pm
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andy59 said..
I tried to enter my S and S 34 they would let me which I thought was a bit rough considering the S and S 34 was a production boat at the time of the first Golden Globe.


Hi Andy
Are you thinking of entering with a different boat?
I'm mulling over 2020.
andy59
andy59

QLD

1156 posts

16 Sep 2018 8:44pm
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McNaughtical said..

andy59 said..
I tried to enter my S and S 34 they would let me which I thought was a bit rough considering the S and S 34 was a production boat at the time of the first Golden Globe.



Hi Andy
Are you thinking of entering with a different boat?
I'm mulling over 2020.


Hi McNaughty
No I don't think I would be allowed!!! Plus id prefer to sail my current boat with al the music on my phone. I can't even imagine going back to listening to music on cassette tapes.
garymalmgren
garymalmgren

1365 posts

18 Sep 2018 8:57pm
Abhilash Tomy has passed McGurchin and is now 36 miles ahead.
goldengloberace.com/livetracker/

As I said before. Not bad for an old tub.
Ramona
Ramona

NSW

7737 posts

19 Sep 2018 8:06am
Just listened to Mark Sinclair's radio call. Seems he is taking some time off and cruising up the East coast of Africa for a bit of sight seeing!

Interesting how the two lead boats are doing. One with headsail furlers and the other with hanked on sails. The halyards on the hanked sail vessel might not make the distance, suffering wear now. Having wet sails below all the time would be a pain too!
garymalmgren
garymalmgren

1365 posts

20 Sep 2018 8:11pm
Abhilash Tomy is now 41 miles ahead of McGurchin and 123 miles behind Mark Slats who is in second place.
goldengloberace.com/livetracker/

They are a long way (approx 1,200 miles) behind the leader, Van Den Heede,
He is flying.

This is my nightly hit before bed.
Nighty night.
Gary
Ramona
Ramona

NSW

7737 posts

22 Sep 2018 7:21am
Lots of drama this morning with several dismastings and injuries. Why would anyone attach an AIS aerial to a mizzen mast!

goldengloberace.com/day-82-breaking-news/
SandS
SandS

VIC

5904 posts

22 Sep 2018 7:55am
not good ! there is a another low following that one as well . one of them is injured , cant move , back injury ! code red !
garymalmgren
garymalmgren

1365 posts

22 Sep 2018 3:26pm
This is looking very serious.
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The fact that Abhilash has been unable to make contact via text or sat phone, nor set off his emergency beacon is unusual and suggests that he remains incapacitated. The only link is the tracking signal we are receiving from the yacht, but the batteries have a limited life."

Ramona
Why would anyone attach an AIS aerial to a mizzen mast!
Good question.
All of these boats were prepped by experienced professionals with the best equipment and still , your question is valid.
fishmonkey
fishmonkey

NSW

494 posts

22 Sep 2018 6:05pm
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garymalmgren said..
This is looking very serious.
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The fact that Abhilash has been unable to make contact via text or sat phone, nor set off his emergency beacon is unusual and suggests that he remains incapacitated. The only link is the tracking signal we are receiving from the yacht, but the batteries have a limited life."


it was looking very dire this morning.

still a difficult rescue ahead, but he has recently managed to re-establish contact and activate his EPIRB. apparently he can barely walk and is more or less confined to his bunk.

goldengloberace.com/ggr-update-after-storm/
SandS
SandS

VIC

5904 posts

22 Sep 2018 7:46pm
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Ramona said..
Lots of drama this morning with several dismastings and injuries. Why would anyone attach an AIS aerial to a mizzen mast!

goldengloberace.com/day-82-breaking-news/


what the problem with installing it on the mizzen ?
Ramona
Ramona

NSW

7737 posts

23 Sep 2018 7:40am
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SandS said..

Ramona said..
Lots of drama this morning with several dismastings and injuries. Why would anyone attach an AIS aerial to a mizzen mast!

goldengloberace.com/day-82-breaking-news/



what the problem with installing it on the mizzen ?


Obviously if you lose the mast you lose the lot. Mounted at the stern on the pushpit will reduce the range but unlikely to get damaged as easily.
Ramona
Ramona

NSW

7737 posts

23 Sep 2018 7:44am
"Dutchman Mark Slats who is some 250 miles SW of the rescue area, has been excused from turning back to assist. He is still facing 40-knot winds and 15m seas and was washed overboard during one of several knockdowns early today, but saved by his safety tether. He reports that he has never seen conditions as bad. One wave crashed down on his boat Ophen Maverick, smashed through the companionway washboards and flooded the yacht's electrics causing a small fire, which was quickly extinguished."
GGR Day 83 Code Red Alert.


I'm just glad I'm not brave enough to be out there!
BlueMoon
BlueMoon

866 posts

23 Sep 2018 6:15am
Even if he was a mile away from Tomy, I doubt he would be able to help much if at all in those conditions, I'm sure he would of tried though.
SandS
SandS

VIC

5904 posts

23 Sep 2018 9:19am
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Ramona said..

SandS said..


Ramona said..
Lots of drama this morning with several dismastings and injuries. Why would anyone attach an AIS aerial to a mizzen mast!

goldengloberace.com/day-82-breaking-news/




what the problem with installing it on the mizzen ?



Obviously if you lose the mast you lose the lot. Mounted at the stern on the pushpit will reduce the range but unlikely to get damaged as easily.


yep , i was thinking you were suggesting the main mast would have been better. ............................... Like about probs 80 percent of ais installs are done through spliters to the main antenna .
i agree a separate system would be the go .
SandS
SandS

VIC

5904 posts

23 Sep 2018 8:05pm
DAY 83 UPDATE: Australian rescue authorities lead multinational mission to rescue injured Indian GGR solo sailor from dismasted yacht deep in the South Indian Ocean
Media update 13:00 UTC 22.9.2018 Les Sables d'Olonne, France Early today, Golden Globe Race HQ finally received a satellite text message from Abhilash Tomy, the injured Indian solo sailor dismasted in the South Indian Ocean some 1,900 miles SW of Perth, Australia on Friday. ACTIVATED EPIRB.CANT WALK.MIGHT NEED STRETCHER Position: 39' 25.297 S 077' 30.629 E at 22 Sep 02:28 UTC From subsequent messages, rescue authorities in Australia and India now know that the 39 year old Naval Commander is safe onboard his disabled yacht Thuriya, but lying immobilised in his bunk. His latest message timed at 21:57 UTC READ: CAN MOVE TOES. FEEL NUMB. CAN'T EAT OR DRINK. TOUGH 2 REACH GRAB BAG The MRCC in Canberra has subsequently picked up the yacht's emergency signals and is now co-ordinating a multinational rescue mission. An executive jet has been despatched from Perth, Western Australia to assess the situation and is expected to reach the area at around 02:30 UTC Sunday. The plane has sufficient fuel to remain on station for 3 hours, when her crew will assess the damage to the 36ft Indian yacht and attempt to make radio contact with Tomy. The aircraft will also overfly Gregor McGuckin's Irish yacht Hanley Energy Endurance also dismasted during the same storm. McGuckin has since set up a jury rig and is attempting to motor sail the 90-mile distance to Tomy's position. The Australian authorities are also repositioning a search and rescue plane to Reunion Island to assist in the rescue mission together with the Anzac class frigate HMAS Ballerat which is preparing to leave Perth. She will take 4-5 days to reach the area but has a helicopter and full medical facilities onboard. Much closer is the French fisheries patrol vessel Osiris, which expects to reach Thuriya some time Sunday PM UTC. She also has medical facilities onboard. Independently, Indian authorities have despatched a military plane from Mauritius which could reach the area around 23:30 UTC today and also diverted the Indian Navy's stealth frigate INS Satpura, and tanker INS Jyoti Mission from exercises off South Africa to assist in the rescue. At 10:00 UTC today, Gregor McGuckin made a satellite phone call to Race HQ. The Irish yachtsman reported that he had utilised his spinnaker pole to rig a simple jury rig but found that the alloy tube was bending in heavy gusts. He is also having trouble with the engine, which keeps stopping. This may be caused by fuel contamination when the yacht was rolled and dismasted on Friday. He is also having to hand steer after his wind vane self-steering was smashed by the falling mast. Regardless, Gregor is making best time to Tomy under the circumstances and estimates that he could reach Thuriya's position between 18:00 and 24:00 UTC on Sunday. Race organisers are providing him with regular range and bearing details. Estonian GGR skipper Uku Randmaa, currently 400 miles west of the two distressed yachts will take 3 days to reach the area, and plans to assist Gregor. Dutchman Mark Slats who is some 250 miles SW of the rescue area, has been excused from turning back to assist. He is still facing 40-knot winds and 15m seas and was washed overboard during one of several knockdowns early today, but saved by his safety tether. He reports that he has never seen conditions as bad. One wave crashed down on his boat Ophen Maverick, smashed through the companionway washboards and flooded the yacht's electrics causing a small fire, which was quickly extinguished. The rest of the GGR fleet have done well to make north to avoid a second viscous storm now approaching from the west, which should now pass south of them. There will still be big swells and strong winds, but nothing like the middle fleet experienced over the past 24 hours Race organisers continue to work closely with The Australian Joint Rescue Co-ordination Centre and are extremely grateful for the efforts being made by all involved.



Chris 249
Chris 249

NSW

3531 posts

24 Sep 2018 1:47pm
Considering the huge amount of criticism that modern boats have copped when they have failed in recent singlehanded RTW races, it's interesting to see the very high casualty rate in this event. It's not just one storm either - boats have been getting dismasted etc for weeks.
Karsten
Karsten

NSW

331 posts

24 Sep 2018 8:24pm
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Chris 249 said..
Considering the huge amount of criticism that modern boats have copped when they have failed in recent singlehanded RTW races, it's interesting to see the very high casualty rate in this event. It's not just one storm either - boats have been getting dismasted etc for weeks.


Chris, what a great observation.

No high aspect keels dropping off, but these old style bluewater boats still drop out en masse.

Lot of failures with steering subsystems and masts. Why ?
Jolene
Jolene

WA

1622 posts

24 Sep 2018 6:54pm
My take on it is that modern boat designs take less effort to move, therefore moving with the forces more efficiently and
Another factor is that these guys have none of the outside assistance ( sat weather and chart plotter route option/weather options that modern RTW sailors in modern boats may use.
SandS
SandS

VIC

5904 posts

24 Sep 2018 9:48pm
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thats a great result !!
garymalmgren
garymalmgren

1365 posts

27 Sep 2018 1:24pm
An update on the rescue mission, condition of the skippers ( Tomy and McGurckin) and the fate of their boats
www.sailingscuttlebutt.com/2018/09/26/golden-globe-rescue-logistics-continue/

gary
troubadour
troubadour

NSW

334 posts

27 Sep 2018 4:41pm
Westsail 32 commonly referred to as a Wet Snail...................
Ramona
Ramona

NSW

7737 posts

28 Sep 2018 8:39am

"During the controlled evacuation of Hanley Energy Endurance, McGuckin was instructed to leave the vessel afloat. The French fisheries patrol vessel Osiris instructed McGuckin that scuttling the vessel would be in breach of International Maritime Regulations. Hence, McGuckin removed all debris from the deck that could become separated, secured all equipment on board, and ensured the AIS beacon was active. The power source to the AIS device is solar panels which should remain active without any outside assistance reducing the risk to other vessels. Precautionary steps were also taken to ensure the relatively small amount of fuel onboard is secure."

I'm surprised this has not raised some sort of discussion! I feel for this bloke. He was forced to abandon his vessel even though he is more than capable of sailing to safety with his jury rig. Not sure whether he dropped the sails but this boat is going to be wandering about for a long time!



SandS
SandS

VIC

5904 posts

28 Sep 2018 9:25am
i think he motor sailed jury rigged to the location of the Indian sailor to give assistance .
When the rescue occurred , he chose to get off at that time . he wasn't forced to abandon , it was his call to sail on to safety under jury rig ,or get off .
He chose to take advantage of the rescue . instead of run the risk of having to call them out again .
Ramona
Ramona

NSW

7737 posts

28 Sep 2018 6:15pm
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SandS said..
i think he motor sailed jury rigged to the location of the Indian sailor to give assistance .
When the rescue occurred , he chose to get off at that time . he wasn't forced to abandon , it was his call to sail on to safety under jury rig ,or get off .
He chose to take advantage of the rescue . instead of run the risk of having to call them out again .


The way it came across on the web page he had to take the ride then. Might not get a second chance if he needed it later. I think race management pressured him somewhat. The boat was undamaged and the skipper more than capable of sailing it to safety. I guess there will be no insurance pay out on this one!
SandS
SandS

VIC

5904 posts

28 Sep 2018 6:32pm
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Ramona said..

SandS said..
i think he motor sailed jury rigged to the location of the Indian sailor to give assistance .
When the rescue occurred , he chose to get off at that time . he wasn't forced to abandon , it was his call to sail on to safety under jury rig ,or get off .
He chose to take advantage of the rescue . instead of run the risk of having to call them out again .



The way it came across on the web page he had to take the ride then. Might not get a second chance if he needed it later. I think race management pressured him somewhat. The boat was undamaged and the skipper more than capable of sailing it to safety. I guess there will be no insurance pay out on this one!


haahaha i dont think there would be much pressure needed !!!! I bet he thought about it for about one second , then said yes please get me outa here !!!!
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