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Karsten
Karsten

NSW

331 posts

1 Mar 2017 1:10pm
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rumblefish said..

The shallower one moved and eventually wore the rope, the deeper one with the boat on it didn't move at all!!!


When you say "The shallower one moved and eventually wore the rope", do you mean the mooring block relocated a significant distance on its own due to water movement?

And what caused the wear on the strop/rope?
rumblefish
rumblefish

TAS

824 posts

1 Mar 2017 2:31pm
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Karsten said..

rumblefish said..

The shallower one moved and eventually wore the rope, the deeper one with the boat on it didn't move at all!!!



When you say "The shallower one moved and eventually wore the rope", do you mean the mooring block relocated a significant distance on its own due to water movement?

And what caused the wear on the strop/rope?


Yup, the swell was impacting the bottom and washed about 800kg of wheels and chain.

We suspect the swell moved the weights/chain over/wrapped around the rope and wore it through from constant swell movement.
Karsten
Karsten

NSW

331 posts

1 Mar 2017 4:56pm
Thanks for the info Rumble - you would have thought 800kg would dig in not shift. Good to thing to keen in mind.
keensailor
keensailor

NSW

702 posts

1 Mar 2017 11:43pm
Yes, I just assumed weight and the bottom would not be impacted but if shallow that is a risk.
rumblefish
rumblefish

TAS

824 posts

2 Mar 2017 8:15am
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Karsten said..
Thanks for the info Rumble - you would have thought 800kg would dig in not shift. Good to thing to keen in mind.


It was hard sand.

I did recommend to the guy I made them up for that he send a diver down after they were laid to dig around them a bit and make sure they were all untangled atc. but alas he did not heed my advice!!!
Ramona
Ramona

NSW

7737 posts

2 Mar 2017 8:48am
My soft nylon eye splice has flat fire hose sheaving the eye. I made the eye splice fairly long. This attaches to the large link chain with a shackle. Using a plastic boat roller I turned up a "thimble" that is as wide as the shackle jaw and the pin fits easily. The eye splice is tightened up hard on the thimble with heavy duty cable ties. This is a very easy set up to change under water.
This style of nylon riser with a trawler buoy one metre up from the bottom shackle should stop chafe.
Ramona
Ramona

NSW

7737 posts

18 Mar 2017 5:43pm
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keensailor said..
I had a new mooring laid around 6 months ago (see drawing and photo below), the bottom is hard sand (not mud) and the block just sits on the hard sand. This is causing a problem whereby the lighter D link chain finds its way underneath the concrete block. This shortens the whole scope of mooring by about 4-5 metres. It will sometimes free itself but I am wondering if I could deploy a mooring bouy somewhere along the mooring, either at junction between the two chains or between the lighter chain and poly rope? Hopefully this would lift the lighter chain off the bottom and prevent it from getting stuck under the block.
The other question is how do I stop the poly rope from chaffing on the bottom at the swivel, you can see in photo.
Thanks






Usual rough weather in JB keensailor. Hope you have had your mooring sorted. Notice the damage to this 44 up on the beach today. All the damage would have come from hitting other boats on the way to the beach.



keensailor
keensailor

NSW

702 posts

18 Mar 2017 9:37pm
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Ramona said..

keensailor said..
I had a new mooring laid around 6 months ago (see drawing and photo below), the bottom is hard sand (not mud) and the block just sits on the hard sand. This is causing a problem whereby the lighter D link chain finds its way underneath the concrete block. This shortens the whole scope of mooring by about 4-5 metres. It will sometimes free itself but I am wondering if I could deploy a mooring bouy somewhere along the mooring, either at junction between the two chains or between the lighter chain and poly rope? Hopefully this would lift the lighter chain off the bottom and prevent it from getting stuck under the block.
The other question is how do I stop the poly rope from chaffing on the bottom at the swivel, you can see in photo.
Thanks






Usual rough weather in JB keensailor. Hope you have had your mooring sorted. Notice the damage to this 44 up on the beach today. All the damage would have come from hitting other boats on the way to the beach.




Yeah, saw this on Friday arvo. Apparently it cut loose Friday morning. The damage to the bow was done by a chain some how.
Scary stuff.
GKandCC
GKandCC

NSW

218 posts

19 Mar 2017 4:14am
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keensailor said..

Ramona said..


keensailor said..
I had a new mooring laid around 6 months ago (see drawing and photo below), the bottom is hard sand (not mud) and the block just sits on the hard sand. This is causing a problem whereby the lighter D link chain finds its way underneath the concrete block. This shortens the whole scope of mooring by about 4-5 metres. It will sometimes free itself but I am wondering if I could deploy a mooring bouy somewhere along the mooring, either at junction between the two chains or between the lighter chain and poly rope? Hopefully this would lift the lighter chain off the bottom and prevent it from getting stuck under the block.
The other question is how do I stop the poly rope from chaffing on the bottom at the swivel, you can see in photo.
Thanks






Usual rough weather in JB keensailor. Hope you have had your mooring sorted. Notice the damage to this 44 up on the beach today. All the damage would have come from hitting other boats on the way to the beach.




Yeah, saw this on Friday arvo. Apparently it cut loose Friday morning. The damage to the bow was done by a chain some how.
Scary stuff.


Ramona, I've often thought that a 100m break wall added onto the slight point which doesn't quite enclose Callala Bay would be a great thing, and prevent the regular 'wash-ups' on that beach. Excuse me while I duck the incoming environmental bombshells!. On second thought the enclosing of Callala Bay would just make JB the premier sailing/boating destination on the South Coast within close reach of Sydney and just drive up Real Estate prices, they'd probably also want to put in a suitably large marina and fill it with stink boats so the overseas investors can park their little used gin palaces in. Some thought-bubbles should be burst before they're taken seriously, maybe.
Ramona
Ramona

NSW

7737 posts

19 Mar 2017 8:28am
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GKandCC said..

keensailor said..


Ramona said..



keensailor said..
I had a new mooring laid around 6 months ago (see drawing and photo below), the bottom is hard sand (not mud) and the block just sits on the hard sand. This is causing a problem whereby the lighter D link chain finds its way underneath the concrete block. This shortens the whole scope of mooring by about 4-5 metres. It will sometimes free itself but I am wondering if I could deploy a mooring bouy somewhere along the mooring, either at junction between the two chains or between the lighter chain and poly rope? Hopefully this would lift the lighter chain off the bottom and prevent it from getting stuck under the block.
The other question is how do I stop the poly rope from chaffing on the bottom at the swivel, you can see in photo.
Thanks






Usual rough weather in JB keensailor. Hope you have had your mooring sorted. Notice the damage to this 44 up on the beach today. All the damage would have come from hitting other boats on the way to the beach.




Yeah, saw this on Friday arvo. Apparently it cut loose Friday morning. The damage to the bow was done by a chain some how.
Scary stuff.



Ramona, I've often thought that a 100m break wall added onto the slight point which doesn't quite enclose Callala Bay would be a great thing, and prevent the regular 'wash-ups' on that beach. Excuse me while I duck the incoming environmental bombshells!. On second thought the enclosing of Callala Bay would just make JB the premier sailing/boating destination on the South Coast within close reach of Sydney and just drive up Real Estate prices, they'd probably also want to put in a suitably large marina and fill it with stink boats so the overseas investors can park their little used gin palaces in. Some thought-bubbles should be burst before they're taken seriously, maybe.


It's a National Park. We have to consider our selves lucky the moorings are allowed to stay.
Ramona
Ramona

NSW

7737 posts

19 Mar 2017 8:34am
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keensailor said..

Ramona said..


keensailor said..
I had a new mooring laid around 6 months ago (see drawing and photo below), the bottom is hard sand (not mud) and the block just sits on the hard sand. This is causing a problem whereby the lighter D link chain finds its way underneath the concrete block. This shortens the whole scope of mooring by about 4-5 metres. It will sometimes free itself but I am wondering if I could deploy a mooring bouy somewhere along the mooring, either at junction between the two chains or between the lighter chain and poly rope? Hopefully this would lift the lighter chain off the bottom and prevent it from getting stuck under the block.
The other question is how do I stop the poly rope from chaffing on the bottom at the swivel, you can see in photo.
Thanks






Usual rough weather in JB keensailor. Hope you have had your mooring sorted. Notice the damage to this 44 up on the beach today. All the damage would have come from hitting other boats on the way to the beach.




Yeah, saw this on Friday arvo. Apparently it cut loose Friday morning. The damage to the bow was done by a chain some how.
Scary stuff.


One of the blokes made a comment on my Facebook page today that he has one of these on a mooring next to him and it goes crazy in a breeze. The damage to the bow could have been caused by a chain riser! The bow is split and I presumed it was from a collision.
keensailor
keensailor

NSW

702 posts

24 Mar 2017 7:51pm
This is how they hauled her out


keensailor
keensailor

NSW

702 posts

25 Mar 2017 10:13am
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Ramona said..

keensailor said..


Ramona said..



keensailor said..
I had a new mooring laid around 6 months ago (see drawing and photo below), the bottom is hard sand (not mud) and the block just sits on the hard sand. This is causing a problem whereby the lighter D link chain finds its way underneath the concrete block. This shortens the whole scope of mooring by about 4-5 metres. It will sometimes free itself but I am wondering if I could deploy a mooring bouy somewhere along the mooring, either at junction between the two chains or between the lighter chain and poly rope? Hopefully this would lift the lighter chain off the bottom and prevent it from getting stuck under the block.
The other question is how do I stop the poly rope from chaffing on the bottom at the swivel, you can see in photo.
Thanks






Usual rough weather in JB keensailor. Hope you have had your mooring sorted. Notice the damage to this 44 up on the beach today. All the damage would have come from hitting other boats on the way to the beach.




Yeah, saw this on Friday arvo. Apparently it cut loose Friday morning. The damage to the bow was done by a chain some how.
Scary stuff.



One of the blokes made a comment on my Facebook page today that he has one of these on a mooring next to him and it goes crazy in a breeze. The damage to the bow could have been caused by a chain riser! The bow is split and I presumed it was from a collision.


Is it on an environmental mooring. I suspect the boats tend to sail on the mooring with these.
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