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Defiance - the original

Created by lydia lydia  > 9 months ago, 10 Nov 2016
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lydia
lydia

1927 posts

10 Nov 2016 8:10pm
Been a bit of a mention of the Savage Defiance 30 on these pages.
So here are some pics of the ongoing full restoration of the very original S&S Design 2096.
This boat gave rise to the Savage Defiance and the Northstar 1000 both of which are derivatives of design 2096.
It is not the plug for the Savage boats, that is a boat called Pajen built by Jack Savage
So built by Doug Booker for his father and launched in September 1972 it is laminated frames with triple Oregon planking.
Interior is still clear finished mahogany.
Aim was to stop any further deterioration at present



lydia
lydia

1927 posts

10 Nov 2016 8:11pm



lydia
lydia

1927 posts

10 Nov 2016 8:12pm
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<div>Relaunch after 8 years in the storage yard, not in great shape, one more summer and it would be a writeoff!

<div>But another 2 weeks the storage yard owners were putting the chainsaw through it as the yard was been redeveloped.

<div>So that would have been the end of an ICON.
lydia
lydia

1927 posts

10 Nov 2016 8:15pm
On relaunch, will worry about the cosmetic stuff later but now all good for another 42 years.

lydia
lydia

1927 posts

10 Nov 2016 8:17pm



lydia
lydia

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10 Nov 2016 8:18pm



lydia
lydia

1927 posts

10 Nov 2016 8:28pm
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<div>Will have more pics later but much of the work was repairing modifications done after the original build that had been done wrongly.

<div>for instance a anchor locker was cut through the foredeck but not sealed properly so about 1m of deck was replaced.

<div>Various deck fittings had not been put in properly and so rot had developed.

<div>The on;y thing that saved it was the Oregon hull was in perfect condition still except where water had got behind a skin fitting.

<div>worm damage to the leading edge of the rudder was a small repair and a paint tin left in the cockpit had caused the cockpit floor under it to rot out.

<div>Aim is to spend probably 6 months getting the interior right and then do the external painting.
lydia
lydia

1927 posts

10 Nov 2016 8:41pm
Brilliant work by the guys at David Glenn boatbuilders scarfing in the full three layers of Oregon planking to water damage caused by a damaged skin fitting that had not been properly repaired. Two layers in with one to go.
lydia
lydia

1927 posts

10 Nov 2016 8:48pm
Luckily the deck was two layers of mahogany ply so the glue line stopped much water egress so much of the work was replacing the top layer only.
I can't speak highly enough of the guys doing the work. Super skilled and loved the job.
cisco
cisco

QLD

12364 posts

11 Nov 2016 12:15am

Ain't it a bitch how an old forlorn yacht can ignite your passion and empty your bank account??

Nice job lydia. A very worthy project. Where abouts was she and where is she now?
PhilY
PhilY

NSW

157 posts

11 Nov 2016 12:11pm
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lydia said..
Been a bit of a mention of the Savage Defiance 30 on these pages.
So here are some pics of the ongoing full restoration of the very original S&S Design 2096.
This boat gave rise to the Savage Defiance and the Northstar 1000 both of which are derivatives of design 2096.
It is not the plug for the Savage boats, that is a boat called Pajen built by Jack Savage
So built by Doug Booker for his father and launched in September 1972 it is laminated frames with triple Oregon planking.
Interior is still clear finished mahogany.
Aim was to stop any further deterioration at present




And yours truly in the darker cap, racing two handed to Botany Bay that day back in the early 80s.
PhoenixStar
PhoenixStar

QLD

477 posts

11 Nov 2016 12:14pm
Congratulations Lydia, she'll be gorgeous when you are finished.
Pit Pony
Pit Pony

NSW

21 posts

11 Nov 2016 1:52pm
Nice work!! Always good to see old boats living on.
SandS
SandS

VIC

5904 posts

11 Nov 2016 8:03pm
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lydia said..
On relaunch, will worry about the cosmetic stuff later but now all good for another 42 years.


Well done Lydia ! sailing communities thank you !
lydia
lydia

1927 posts

11 Nov 2016 7:37pm
Last thing I needed was another wooden boat restoration so this makes number 4 over 20 years.
So lapse of judgement really.
Here so pics of one of the others
Marion du Fresne - Buchanan motorsailor built by Jones Bros 1966 for Peter Johnson
Carvel construction of celery top pine splined since new
Gardiner 4LK diesel


lydia
lydia

1927 posts

11 Nov 2016 7:38pm
Great work by Peter Kerr from Deagon Slipway who posts here as "boty"
One of the best guys you can ever work with.
I don't understand why southerners don't bring their boats up to Queensland to get these guys working.

samsturdy
samsturdy

NSW

1659 posts

12 Nov 2016 12:56pm

Fantastic job Lydia. What a great job Boty has done. You never know who you're talking
to on the forum, do you ?.
Wish I was somebody....sigh.
shaggybaxter
shaggybaxter

QLD

2661 posts

12 Nov 2016 1:26pm
You are somebody Sam, a true gentleman.
samsturdy
samsturdy

NSW

1659 posts

12 Nov 2016 2:57pm
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shaggybaxter said..
You are somebody Sam, a true gentleman.


Aw shucks Shags. Right back at ya.
lydia
lydia

1927 posts

13 Nov 2016 12:53pm
Some interior shots sorry about the light.
not really anything to do much inside to do just clean, a lot.

lydia
lydia

1927 posts

13 Nov 2016 12:55pm



lydia
lydia

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13 Nov 2016 12:56pm



lydia
lydia

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13 Nov 2016 12:57pm



Sectorsteve
Sectorsteve

QLD

2195 posts

13 Nov 2016 5:38pm
What a beautiful boat. Well done
Jode5
Jode5

QLD

853 posts

13 Nov 2016 5:55pm
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lydia said..
Great work by Peter Kerr from Deagon Slipway who posts here as "boty"
One of the best guys you can ever work with.
I don't understand why southerners don't bring their boats up to Queensland to get these guys working.


If we are really lucky 'Boty' might put up some photos of the beautiful timber Dhow he is currently building for a client. It is something really different. Peter's skills on timber boats is second to none and his skills on the new exotics isn't to bad either.
LooseChange
LooseChange

NSW

2140 posts

13 Nov 2016 8:06pm
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lydia said..




That Oregon planking looks as good as the day it was put on the frames. Try buying that kind of quality timber now.
lydia
lydia

1927 posts

13 Nov 2016 5:41pm
Frames are on 10 inch centres and all laminated.
Then you have the three layers of diagonal planking.
Planks are full length.
Cost today????


lydia
lydia

1927 posts

14 Nov 2016 6:18pm
One more pic, starboard pilot berth, the plastic tube is the danbouy tube.


Ringle
Ringle

NSW

196 posts

14 Nov 2016 9:43pm
I don't think we can have too many photos...

Feel free to post more if you have them !

Thanks
HG02
HG02

VIC

5814 posts

14 Nov 2016 10:20pm
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Ringle said..
I don't think we can have too many photos...

Feel free to post more if you have them !

Thanks


plus one for that
lydia
lydia

1927 posts

19 Nov 2016 6:43pm




Deck all sealed and fittings to be worked out before re paint
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