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TerryMcTool said..
Try the Ronstan RF35100 pulley although you don't really need the swivelling capability, its rated at 300kg working load and 600kg breaking load.

Thanks for the suggestion

Do you think it could work on top of the fixed hook on my harness ? I do not want to cut it off just yet...

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Alysum said..

TerryMcTool said..
Try the Ronstan RF35100 pulley although you don't really need the swivelling capability, its rated at 300kg working load and 600kg breaking load.

Thanks for the suggestion

Do you think it could work on top of the fixed hook on my harness ? I do not want to cut it off just yet...

Yes. Jay suggests doing this with their harness if you're unsure about the whole sliding thing. There's video of someone doing it on youtube...

Just had a 2 hour session at Kurnell in 20 knots. Half of it toeside. Gotta love the dynabar

Just dropped in to Kitepower in Sydney, they have had a huge shipment of Jaystore Dynabars and accessories, all the new bits and pieces, new harnesses, hope they get it all online soon.

Has anyone tried the NP centre pivoting Tracker spreader bar?

Interested to compare to Dynabar for general surf/freeride.

Had my first crack on the Dynabar properly last week. (dyneema) They are excellent. No going back.

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spartacus said..
Has anyone tried the NP centre pivoting Tracker spreader bar?

Interested to compare to Dynabar for general surf/freeride.

If you use the U-bolt included with the Dynabar, it does the same thing. I think

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TerryMcTool said..
Just dropped in to Kitepower in Sydney, they have had a huge shipment of Jaystore Dynabars and accessories, all the new bits and pieces, new harnesses, hope they get it all online soon.

Is there anywhere else you can buy dynabars locally?

I got one from SHQ a few years ago.... Maybe worth a try

I tried a custom rope with a shackle today over the fixed hook of my harness.

I only tried for about 20mins and I was struggling, it feels very different to be pulled on the hips instead. It was choppy so I kept crashing into the chop in front. I guess I have to learn more to the back hip since its pulling on the forward hip.

Thoughts?

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Alysum said..
I tried a custom rope with a shackle today over the fixed hook of my harness.

I only tried for about 20mins and I was struggling, it feels very different to be pulled on the hips instead. It was choppy so I kept crashing into the chop in front. I guess I have to learn more to the back hip since its pulling on the forward hip.

Thoughts?

IMO if the rope is too slack, it gets twitchy and jumps out of the center zone too easily... that can be distracting. You get used to it, but better to concentrate on squaring your hips to the kite...

Try to find a spreader bar that you can cut the hook off, having the hook there will create a large V in the rope and as Kamikuza says that makes for sloppy/jerky feel as the shackle or ring slides.
Anytime it feel like its pulling awkwardly it will be because you are A) not used to the movement yet, and B) you have not kept your hips square to the pull of the kite. Neither of these things come into play when riding toeside, but they do when you do a fast turn from heel to toe or opposite, even water starting can feel weird, but you eventually intuitively "square up" and it begins to feel very normal and extremely fluid and better than a fixed hook. I could not go back to a fixed hook, but I ride mostly in waves.

Thanks for the feedback, so the intention is to keep the hips square to the kite to force the pull to be central on the rope ?

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Alysum said..
Thanks for the feedback, so the intention is to keep the hips square to the kite to force the pull to be central on the rope ?

Yeah, though a little bit off-center either side can help weight front or rear foot. With A sliding hook, you certainly discover hiw much you rely in leaning against the hook!

I've experienced the virtues of the Dynabar. All said, I prefer the Power Wave Bar vs the Dyneema rope. It's solid, doesn't stretch, and will never break. And unlike the Freeride Bar it's smooth.

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windtzu said..
I've experienced the virtues of the Dynabar. All said, I prefer the Power Wave Bar vs the Dyneema rope. It's solid, doesn't stretch, and will never break. And unlike the Freeride Bar it's smooth.

I don't believe the Dynaeema stretches; rather the knot packs down. Which is also annoying... I wonder if squeexing the knit inot a stopper ball would help.

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Kamikuza said..

windtzu said..
I've experienced the virtues of the Dynabar. All said, I prefer the Power Wave Bar vs the Dyneema rope. It's solid, doesn't stretch, and will never break. And unlike the Freeride Bar it's smooth.

I don't believe the Dynaeema stretches; rather the knot packs down. Which is also annoying... I wonder if squeexing the knit inot a stopper ball would help.

After the first session you really don't notice the centre kink in the free ride bar impacting on how smooth the hook moves. But when you want the hook centred it works a treat without consciously worrying about twisting hips etc. I constantly swap between my surf board and a TT every half hour or so and it's like having two different harnesses.

Has anyone compared the large vs small versions of the dynabar?

I recently bought the large one as I wear a large harness, and it feels like I can tighten it up enough. But after a few crashes etc my harness now rides up. It never used to.

I've heard the small dynabar is more curved than the big one, and my old spreader bar (mystic warrior) is quite curved.

Could the flatter dynabar be the reason for the riding up?
Anyone else finding this problem?

Anyone with a small dynabar want to swap for a large one?

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nikmcc said..
Has anyone compared the large vs small versions of the dynabar?

I recently bought the large one as I wear a large harness, and it feels like I can tighten it up enough. But after a few crashes etc my harness now rides up. It never used to.

I've heard the small dynabar is more curved than the big one, and my old spreader bar (mystic warrior) is quite curved.

Could the flatter dynabar be the reason for the riding up?
Anyone else finding this problem?

Anyone with a small dynabar want to swap for a large one?

I heard the smaller one was more curved too, and some review said to go for the smaller one if you're fat... which I am so I did. Someone elsewhere just took a hammer to it and rounded the larger one he had.

Should compare it to my Dakine bar, whcih is quite flat through the center...

When Jay comes out with the hook knife pad, I'm going to get a large too and see the difference.

Could be youre unconsciously letting the kite above your head and not leaning into the harness as much, as it's more comfortable...?

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Kamikuza said..

nikmcc said..
Has anyone compared the large vs small versions of the dynabar?

I recently bought the large one as I wear a large harness, and it feels like I can tighten it up enough. But after a few crashes etc my harness now rides up. It never used to.

I've heard the small dynabar is more curved than the big one, and my old spreader bar (mystic warrior) is quite curved.

Could the flatter dynabar be the reason for the riding up?
Anyone else finding this problem?

Anyone with a small dynabar want to swap for a large one?

I heard the smaller one was more curved too, and some review said to go for the smaller one if you're fat... which I am so I did. Someone elsewhere just took a hammer to it and rounded the larger one he had.

Should compare it to my Dakine bar, whcih is quite flat through the center...

When Jay comes out with the hook knife pad, I'm going to get a large too and see the difference.

Could be youre unconsciously letting the kite above your head and not leaning into the harness as much, as it's more comfortable...?

Yeah I also heard the small is better for beer guts... which I like to think I dont have

Maybe I need to pay more attention to my kite positioning, or stop crashing...

Been riding strapless heaps lately and been wokring on gybes and shove-it moves, so I guess my kite has been spending some time pretty high above my head, and I've been crashing and getting dragged around a bit

Its been riding up to the point Ive stopped wearing my impact vest cause it was getting uncomfortable.


But otherwise, loving the dynabar!

If you're not crashing, you're not pushing your limits

Crashing and being dragged is the worst for making harnesses ride up; all that load with the kite is right "above" you, even if you're ass over tits. Even the seat harness and Dynabar produces wedgies in that riding profile... tough to correct on the water, with a directional trying to float away from you too :(

Try falling over so you're don't have the kite "above" you when you hit the water

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harry potter said..
I got one from SHQ a few years ago.... Maybe worth a try

cheers, just so happened they had some new ones in stock. add another convert to the list.

gotta say heaps of useful advice here: - took TMT advice to remove red ball, took someone else's to use the second rope as backup, took ring off and attached leash to frame. took about half an hour to get used to it. as for hips hurting, have not had a tight harness for a long time so just sucking it up and enjoying the fluid turning

Finally got around to getting a dyna bar and definitely impressed.
I like the freedom of the sliding hook for playing in the waves on a board and the TT.

Last week I tried the bar as a pivoting centre hook on the TT and found it still had plenty of freedom for fast carving turns/toes side; but without hook moving mid way through a fast turn. The movement mid turn is a bit of a distraction but I'm sure as I get used to it the full sliding hook won't cause this reaction. Jumping on the sliding hook is fine but as said before makes you sharpen up your form.

Happy for the difference this bar has made.

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TerryMcTool said..
Just dropped in to Kitepower in Sydney, they have had a huge shipment of Jaystore Dynabars and accessories, all the new bits and pieces, new harnesses, hope they get it all online soon.

Hey TM will the dynabar fit a Dakine Vega seat harness?

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Slashrockson said..

TerryMcTool said..
Just dropped in to Kitepower in Sydney, they have had a huge shipment of Jaystore Dynabars and accessories, all the new bits and pieces, new harnesses, hope they get it all online soon.

Hey TM will the dynabar fit a Dakine Vega seat harness?

Fits the Fusion. You have a late model with a clip on RHS and double eyes on the SB on the left? You might need the clip that downs with the kit, although you can just loop the straps through... they can slip over each other though.

Any single strap to the SB harness will fit the Dynabar spreader bar without buckles/clips, eg. Mystic.
Any harness with double straps will need buckles... or not. See Terry's pictures on page 2 iirc; eg. Dakine, Ion.

Pull down straps are supported.

My local shop can get me the v7 for $120 or v8 for $180.

Is it worth spending the extra $60?

What is the main differences between the 2 . sorry this has probably been asked before

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dkeating said..
My local shop can get me the v7 for $120 or v8 for $180.

Is it worth spending the extra $60?

What is the main differences between the 2 . sorry this has probably been asked before

IRC the spreader bar is the difference -- v7 is plate welded on rails vs. v8 cast steel. Cast is better, as it wont bend.

I just had a not so pleasant experience with my Dynabar at Brighton beach today. The rope snapped, causing the pulley to slingshot into my thumb, then snapping the safety rope from the harness. My kite went sailing away, luckily landing on the beach for someone to grab. I was left in the drink practising my swimming strokes.

The dynabar was a Dynabar V7 XT bought march 2014. I kite maybe 2 times per month on average, so we are looking at 35 times - say 70 hours. I weigh about 80kg. There is no evidence of wear on the rope. It snapped right at the stainless anchorage, any damage here is near impossible to sight - you would need to disassemble.

Overall my experience with the Dynabar has been good. After this I would not recommend that anyone use the product with the rope. If I can get a new pulley and hook I will only be using the stainless runner. Failure of the rope is very dangerous, and could of been worse if the wind was stronger or a trick was attempted.

^^^^your fault for not changing rope^^^^^
You also look to be missing the plastic lugs that protect the rope from wearing in the frame of the dynabar. It's important to replace them if they are split or missing. You can see wear in this spot you just need to pull rope through from back to inspect.