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Leighbreeze > 9 months ago, 7 Feb 2020

Leighbreeze

556 posts

7 Feb 2020 6:42am

Thread not intended to bash a brand.
Anyone else had problems with Duotone click bar Safety Line breaking in near top end of black plastic casing.
Lines about 4 months old.
one mate snapped his resulting in kite release only rolled down the beach a few times.Lucky.
Have since had another mate replace his with a different safety line.
Something rubbing safety line inside top end of black tubing near velro thing below throw adjuster.
Worth checking your for your own safety.!!!!

weebitbreezy

633 posts

7 Feb 2020 5:57pm

I haven't had it happen but its a common problem with all sleeved safety lines.

I did hear people suggest a length of heatshrink in this area to prevent wear although I haven't checked it myself as I'd be a little worried about the extra diameter stopping the flag out working properly. Might try it to see what its like when I come to replace my lineset. That way if its no good I don't have to work out how to get the heat shrink off without damaging the line.

Leighbreeze

556 posts

7 Feb 2020 7:51pm

Blue line in the photo is a replacement from a chandelier.
There must be something abrasive rubbing the red safety line on the inside of black rectangular tubing.
They should last longer than a few months.

hosh

242 posts

10 Feb 2020 10:58am

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LeighMajor said..
Thread not intended to bash a brand.
Anyone else had problems with Duotone click bar Safety Line breaking in near top end of black plastic casing.
Lines about 4 months old.
one mate snapped his resulting in kite release only rolled down the beach a few times.Lucky.
Have since had another mate replace his with a different safety line.
Something rubbing safety line inside top end of black tubing near velro thing below throw adjuster.
Worth checking your for your own safety.!!!!

Good to see you putting it out there mate. Could save someone some grief.

omg

292 posts

10 Feb 2020 8:46pm

is the damage exactly in the place where the black depower tubing meets the part with the velcro ie. is the plastic depower tube sharp at the end?
Mine has no wear and I've used it a quite a bit. I waxed it with candle wax, don't know if it does anything but not worse either I'm sure.

railbanger

40 posts

11 Feb 2020 10:47am

Yes, looks like you have a wear spot in that location from your tubing. Not normal based on my experience with the Click Bar but I understand some others have this same issue.

Leighbreeze

556 posts

12 Feb 2020 5:00am

Omg yes that's appears to be the wear position.
Not sure wax would help.
We have several bar bought at the similar time with this safety line wear issue in that same location.
Waiting for a warranty ATM.?

Aj1988

1 posts

30 Mar 2020 8:12am

Mine snapped yesterday in the exact same spot. I lost the ball at the end that holds the safety line and had to swim to shore and then chase the kite down the beach. Bar is only 1 year old but I don't live in an area with trade winds so it doesn't see heaps of action

Adventure Sports Noosa

QLD

481 posts

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9 Apr 2020 8:51am

Did you have the Y divider on the center lines or were you using it with out the Y divider just asking

Leighbreeze

556 posts

14 Apr 2020 9:35pm

In regards to the y divider.Two of my friends were using the low vee.
which seemed to increase the wear on the safety line where it enters the Velcro thing at the top of the black square tubing.
As the shop pointed out that Duotone says it can be used as low or high vee.
Imo that there is excessive increased wear On the safety line with a low vee arrangement.
So Doutone should not recommend this use of running a low vee and replace On warranty the worn safety lines.

Adventure Sports Noosa

QLD

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16 Apr 2020 7:25pm

When ever i recommend the low v ,I shift the v or y divider down to the bottom near the end of the PU bit of a hassle but stops any wear , and i agree they dont seem to mention to do this anywhere . But I'm pretty sure duotone would look after the problem on both those lines
hope this helps
George

Leighbreeze

556 posts

17 Apr 2020 7:02am

Hey George
Yes that's a good call lowering the Y divider just above the entry into the top .
And yes our supplier put in a warranty claim for the guys that developed a problem with the safety line low vee option.

railbanger

40 posts

21 Apr 2020 7:04am

How do you lower the Y divider past the red stopper ball ?

omg

292 posts

21 Apr 2020 5:22pm

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railbanger said..
How do you lower the Y divider past the red stopper ball ?

I just removed it, because sometime one of the steering lines got wrapped around it when launching.

Leighbreeze

556 posts

23 Apr 2020 5:25am

Omg as George from Adventure sports mentioned by lowering the vee or y down to just above the depower black tubing that will minimise wear on your safety line .By doing that the safety line enters the tubing more parallel reducing the wearing problem.
BTWay my friends two safety lines and black depower tubing were replaced by Duotone under warranty.

Adventure Sports Noosa

QLD

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26 Apr 2020 7:06pm

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railbanger said..
How do you lower the Y divider past the red stopper ball ?

If your really keen you can take the safety line off from the bar end and thread it through the Y divider it only takes 10 mins and leaves the stopper ball on
Myself i reverse the Y divider ( put it on the red line) and use it as a stopper this lets me use both lines for landing and 5th line relaunching during lessons
Hope this helps
George

wishy

1501 posts

3 May 2020 9:07pm

Does anyone actually use their trim? Ive never pulled any on. Click bar is cool, but only if you actually depower your kite more than once a year.

wave6ft

QLD

146 posts

29 May 2020 8:03pm

My click bar today big swim in

Leighbreeze

556 posts

29 May 2020 10:32pm

Arrr bugger.
Still under warranty?

apepene43

QLD

116 posts

30 May 2020 1:25am

No about 15 months old

neldy

QLD

42 posts

30 May 2020 11:04am

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apepene43 said..
No about 15 months old

how often do you use it?
did you rinse out the trim system after each session?

Leighbreeze

556 posts

1 Jun 2020 6:42pm

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apepene43 said..
No about 15 months old

Hi mate
That bar end looks like a 2017 North click bar?
If so that's a few years old?
So normal wear and tear would be expected especially on the front lines.

apepene43

QLD

116 posts

2 Jun 2020 2:46am

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LeighMajor said..

apepene43 said..
No about 15 months old

Hi mate
That bar end looks like a 2017 North click bar?
If so that's a few years old?
So normal wear and tear would be expected especially on the front lines.

It's a 2018 actually and I bought it brand new in the box 15 months ago of a retailer just new old stock I had a 2017 before that and was pretty well looked after before this I've ordered a new click bar but a lot of money to spend again I've never had this in any other bar I've had in 9 years I think I'll sell now every 12 months so no way normal wear and tear 15 months for 900 don't think so mate

Leighbreeze

556 posts

2 Jun 2020 6:02pm

Ok mate I would run it by your retailer to see what he reckons.

SimonM

126 posts

2 Jun 2020 6:57pm

Purchased this one new in march.. 10 to 15 sessions in...

Leighbreeze

556 posts

3 Jun 2020 6:45am

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SimonM said..
Purchased this one new in march.. 10 to 15 sessions in...

Check with your retailer Simon for a warranty claim.
My friends had the same wear on the red safety line
and had the two front lines replaced including the Black depower square tubing.
Safety lines Should not fail that quickly.

SimonM

126 posts

9 Jun 2020 11:38am

Apparently duotone refused the warranty

, but WA surf sorted me out with new safety

. I'll have a look to see if i can find the cause

Leighbreeze

556 posts

9 Jun 2020 7:10pm

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SimonM said..
Apparently duotone refused the warranty

, but WA surf sorted me out with new safety

. I'll have a look to see if i can find the cause

Hi Simon
If you go back in the post,George from Adventure Sports has a plan when you use a low vee or Y on the front lines.
He suggests lowering the vee adjuster screw knob lower to just above the PU black tubing.
That reduces the vee angle of front lines into the PU black tubing which reduces wear.
Keep an eye on the safety line wear in that area.

SimonM

126 posts

9 Jun 2020 8:19pm

Thanks, it's a good idea, but i only use a mid Y with the duotone thread-thru eye thing. The wear I have is at the other end of the black tubing.

Still not fixed, the replacement part i got isn't quite right. :(

The cause is that the end of the black plastic tubing has a sharp edge that lines up with where the splice tapers thicker. That has just been rubbing away inside there when presumably tension comes on and off the line. I've carefully shaved a chamfer in the end of the tube to hopefully stop it happening again.

SimonM

126 posts

9 Jun 2020 8:25pm

Here is a pic of the chamfer added

Leighbreeze

556 posts

9 Jun 2020 10:43pm

Well done .That should be better.
So you think Duotone would consider a warranty if they realised it is a manufacture issue?
Its not the users fault.
Where is their duty of care responsibilities?
Its a safety line?
Just to be safe I will be checking our Click bar safety lines regularly in that area and doing what Simon has done.

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