Thinking of upgrading my old 7 strut 13m edge.

So I'm already sold on the glory of the edge. So I don't need to sold on the advantages of the kite.

As per usual for me I won't be able to try before I buy.....

I am interested an any one who has had issues or doesn't like current generation of edges?

To be honest I haven't heard anyone bag the edge.... So I assume it's still a glorious wing.

If anyone can remember the 7 strut performance and compare the 5strut edge that will be cool.

the 2014 isn't out yet plummet and wont be sold till the middle of the year, I can give you some input on the 2013?

hehe.... ok do it.

PS If I buy it in 2014.... then its a 2014 kite to me.

But that does beg a question. Should I wait till mid year for the next gen edge to come out?

of all the edges my fave has been the 2012, the 2013 is the most efficient but its been cut back on reinforcement if that's a concern, also the aramid bridles that come with the 2013 tend to stretch a touch no biggy the pigtails are long and you just put another knot in them, the 2013 has a great bottom and top end, I was out tonight in 28knts on my 10 and it behaved perfectly, as its lighter construction its a bit better in the waves but not great as youll know, but produces some great pull to pull off some huge roundhouse attacks on a wave, and ride flat out down the line,hangtime is similar to the older model but height is improved due to it being quicker to redirect than the older model, id say when the wind gets up to the kites upper capabilities the older 7strut was a much taughter canopy, basically put id say its been refined through the years as a racing kite and you carnt argue that its the best kite on the market for that, but for me id love to see a freeride version with a bit more reinforcement here and there as we arent bothered about every ounce of weight, , personally I wouldn't go past a 11mtr as the new zephyr will gives me everything i want, as regards to the 2014 model id say it may have minor tweeks partly due to its results on the racing scene and fancier graphics if that's your thing

Chur bro.

Less reinforcement aye? bugger. So the latest edge wont last as long as my old dunger?!

Yeah size is an interesting call.

For my local I think the 13m is a good call. sessions can start at 13 knots or so and build to 23 quite easily.
17 zep would be becoming a handfull 20+. i really want up to 25 knot capability.

11 edge would be awsome 16-28 but I also need the low end too.

The Edge is built just nice, we are not seeing any fail due to weakness in any area of construction. If they were failing it would be all over the forums wouldn't it?

Now that you mention it Steve. I do recall a bridle wear issue posted on kiteforum.....


Found it.

kiteforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=2383287&p=823763

If I was you i'd take Cauncy's valid customer feedback for a more beefy freeride edge request back to Ozone. It wouldn't take much to add a few extra wear strips to make an awesome kiter awesomer for the freeride crew.

You could have the edge R for races and Edge FR for freeride......

maybe a bit understood, it is superbly put together, if you look at a lot of other brands the 1st thing you notice with ozones is how neatly and precise the stitching is done, but its light on reinforcement compared to other kite manufacturers, however its a racing kite which needs no extras here and there, but as a freeride kite it needs it imho, ive split the le on most models and all in the same spot, ive got 2 here from locals waiting to go htl kite repairs again in the same spot, we don't race them here we use them as a freeride kite, and from time to time they get spanked, where a local has some north vegas which hed drill into the water half a dozen times per outing, the edge wont take that kind of punishment , saying that the new north dyno has been drastically stripped back to get closer to the edges performance and looking at it I wouldn't want to be smacking it around either, simply put I wouldn't do a hard days graft wearing my best suit

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Plummet said..

Now that you mention it Steve. I do recall a bridle wear issue posted on kiteforum.....


Found it.

kiteforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=2383287&p=823763

If I was you i'd take Cauncy's valid customer feedback for a more beefy freeride edge request back to Ozone. It wouldn't take much to add a few extra wear strips to make an awesome kiter awesomer for the freeride crew.

You could have the edge R for races and Edge FR for freeride......

airush do this with the varialx and the varialx race, as regards the wear on the rear pigtail I spotted this early on a 2010 , 1st thing I do now is cut a circular dics from the repair kit and let that take the wear

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maybe a bit understood, it is superbly put together, if you look at a lot of other brands the 1st thing you notice with ozones is how neatly and precise the stitching is done, but its light on reinforcement compared to other kite manufacturers, however its a racing kite

you only need to look at the bladder and how it is almost paper thin to understand why in it's intended role it is a class leader. IE racing

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as regards the wear on the rear pigtail I spotted this early on a 2010 , 1st thing I do now is cut a circular dics from the repair kit and let that take the wear

Well I've inspected my kites for wear near the bridles and I'm sweet. even on my 2010 Edge.

I guess that's the bonus of having 4 kites (shhh I'm not counting my flysurfer) they take so long to wear out.

Those small holes from the rear leader only occurred in a small number of kites. Some kites made it through production with webbing loops that were too short, but that issue has been sorted. It is an easy fix, and the materials in the repair pack can fix it permanently using the tear aid. If any user has an issue with their Edge take it to the selling dealer for a repair.
A thinner inner bladder material is used on the 17 and 19 Edge, as well as the Zephyr, all the other sizes have the same bladder material as the rest of the Ozone range.No kite manufactured in the last several months has this issue.
Some of the Edges we've sold in Sydney have seen very high usage, many almost always self launched and landed, and thats what I'm basing my opinion that the Edges construction very adequate.

Fair enough Stevo.

I'm personally not actually worried. I launch and land on grass 80% of the time hardly ever crash my kites into the surf and find they are lasting a lot long than expected. None of my 5 kites have any repairs on them apart from the od pin whole patch here and there. So I think I do a good job and keeping them in good condition.

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Kitepower Australia said..

Those small holes from the rear leader only occurred in a small number of kites. Some kites made it through production with webbing loops that were too short, but that issue has been sorted. It is an easy fix, and the materials in the repair pack can fix it permanently using the tear aid. If any user has an issue with their Edge take it to the selling dealer for a repair.
A thinner inner bladder material is used on the 17 and 19 Edge, as well as the Zephyr, all the other sizes have the same bladder material as the rest of the Ozone range.No kite manufactured in the last several months has this issue.
Some of the Edges we've sold in Sydney have seen very high usage, many almost always self launched and landed, and thats what I'm basing my opinion that the Edges construction very adequate.

adequate for what style of riding is pretty important, if your on a race board or similar the kite isn't put through the same stresses as how I ride the kite, Midwest wa compared to Sydney is completely different wind strength an regularity, itd take a lot to get me off this kite but for my and plummets style of riding itd give me a lot more confidence knowing itd take a fair bit of abuse, ive recently read an interview with rob whitall who honestly tells you how and why ozone kites are lightly built

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Kitepower Australia said..

Those small holes from the rear leader only occurred in a small number of kites. Some kites made it through production with webbing loops that were too short, but that issue has been sorted. It is an easy fix, and the materials in the repair pack can fix it permanently using the tear aid. If any user has an issue with their Edge take it to the selling dealer for a repair.
A thinner inner bladder material is used on the 17 and 19 Edge, as well as the Zephyr, all the other sizes have the same bladder material as the rest of the Ozone range.No kite manufactured in the last several months has this issue.
Some of the Edges we've sold in Sydney have seen very high usage, many almost always self launched and landed, and thats what I'm basing my opinion that the Edges construction very adequate.

adequate for what style of riding is pretty important, if your on a race board or similar the kite isn't put through the same stresses as how I ride the kite, Midwest wa compared to Sydney is completely different wind strength an regularity, itd take a lot to get me off this kite but for my and plummets style of riding itd give me a lot more confidence knowing itd take a fair bit of abuse, ive recently read an interview with rob whitall who honestly tells you how and why ozone kites are lightly built

Rob is obsessed with efficiency, and will not put anything into his kites that does not need to be there. There will never be clunky heavy foam bumpers on any Ozone kite, or massive areas of heavy weight dacron to make kites "wave proof" for example. There is a big difference between light with intelligent design and light/poorly built skimped. I'm sworn to secrecy but there are many new/improved things coming in 2014/15 from Ozone. Also if you are looking for a 5 strut kite with ommphh, the 2015 C4 on the freeride setting/standard bar is awesome.

I have ridden with my 2013 13m Edge for over a year now, as my most used kite. I often will get out riding five or so days a week so it is has had ridiculous amounts of flying time. I often self land and launch as well. In all of that time I have only had one small repair done, and that was my fault! (Left it pressurised on a 40 degree day in perth and 1 strut failed)

There is no issue with the 2013 Edges in terms of build construction, as will all Ozones they are very good quality.

My bridles are still perfect

I am pretty happy with my 2013 13m edge too. Been taking it out about 3 times a week lately and loving it! Definitely have not had any wear issues, but I am very careful with the kite (only crashed it once in about 25+ sessions). It is a great kite, hopefully will last me a few years.

This kite is too fragile, this one gives me elbow problems, this one has 5 lines..... Nothing is perfect. The Edge comes really close to Freeride perfection but the price is tender loving care. IMHO well worth it ! I'm riding the 2013 13 and the 10M Edge since they were released last March. Love them, especially the 13M my go to kite and no issues with either kite.

All good info men. What we learning from this is the edge is awesome and constructed for performance and not ultimate durability.


Stevo, any idea on when 2014 edge will be released?
Is the bar pressure for 2015 c4 lighter?

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All good info men. What we learning from this is the edge is awesome and constructed for performance and not ultimate durability.


Stevo, any idea on when 2014 edge will be released?
Is the bar pressure for 2015 c4 lighter?

No what we are learning is that the Edge is designed for ultimate performance and durability!

Its due out on the last day of the IKA registration for kite racing kites, so no other brand can copy it like has been happening!

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Its due out on the last day of the IKA registration for kite racing kites, so no other brand can copy it like has been happening!

what date is that?

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cauncy said..

Kitepower Australia said..

Those small holes from the rear leader only occurred in a small number of kites. Some kites made it through production with webbing loops that were too short, but that issue has been sorted. It is an easy fix, and the materials in the repair pack can fix it permanently using the tear aid. If any user has an issue with their Edge take it to the selling dealer for a repair.
A thinner inner bladder material is used on the 17 and 19 Edge, as well as the Zephyr, all the other sizes have the same bladder material as the rest of the Ozone range.No kite manufactured in the last several months has this issue.
Some of the Edges we've sold in Sydney have seen very high usage, many almost always self launched and landed, and thats what I'm basing my opinion that the Edges construction very adequate.

adequate for what style of riding is pretty important, if your on a race board or similar the kite isn't put through the same stresses as how I ride the kite, Midwest wa compared to Sydney is completely different wind strength an regularity, itd take a lot to get me off this kite but for my and plummets style of riding itd give me a lot more confidence knowing itd take a fair bit of abuse, ive recently read an interview with rob whitall who honestly tells you how and why ozone kites are lightly built

Rob is obsessed with efficiency, and will not put anything into his kites that does not need to be there. There will never be clunky heavy foam bumpers on any Ozone kite, or massive areas of heavy weight dacron to make kites "wave proof" for example. There is a big difference between light with intelligent design and light/poorly built skimped. I'm sworn to secrecy but there are many new/improved things coming in 2014/15 from Ozone. Also if you are looking for a 5 strut kite with ommphh, the 2015 C4 on the freeride setting/standard bar is awesome.

2014 c4 has only just been released , are you releasing 2015 c4 early , or quoting wrong year. Edge/ race kites , Zephyr good alrounder , Reo wave , C4 wakestyle . My opinion Catalyst good all rounder but catering for too large a group off people , I think scale back cat to beginner intermediate. From opinions I get the feeling a more hard core free ride/ boosting kite of slightly heavier build is possibly what some off us pro ozone customers would like. Interested to hear all thoughts. Thanks Rob

Hi Plummet

I have a quiver of 2013 edges (9m, 11m & 13m) + 2013 Zephyr.
Sorry I cant comment on the older 7 strut edges, as Ive never flown one.
But I havent had any issues with either of my 2013 edges, absolutely love them!
The 11m is my favorite size, but I'm 107kg and kite in SEQ, so I dont get to pull the 9m out all that often.

hopey very similar to me

100kegs 7,11(fav kite),15,19 2013 edges

@ rcr46401 Typo, meant 2014, the ones thats just been released.

Edge 2014 will hit the shelves early to mid April, dealers will be able to order it mid March, word is that it is even fast, more powerful, and boosts huge, but still with the easy to fly Ozone feel.

More news tomorrow, something new and very exciting .....

I think it's awesome having all the insights into ozone that steve provides.

The thinner bladders on 17M,19M edge and zephyr.....I donno I find that kind of stuff interesting.

But why only ozone? We have our ozone guru which is great, but wheres the cab guru? The Slingshot guru? Naish, North, Airush, Best ect.

Thought I would ask the question anyway. Maybe theres a good reason and I don't know about it

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Kitepower Australia said..

Its due out on the last day of the IKA registration for kite racing kites, so no other brand can copy it like has been happening!

what date is that?

I got an email approx. six weeks ago from my supplier, he said that if interested I can order from the 1st of march and fly them on the 1st of june as per isaf and ika rules, told as a race kite id see slight improvements but as a freeride itd be questionable, so if my kites were in good condition not worth changing, generally as a decent look at kites reliability I check the buy and sells from variouse countries, if you look at the edges youll see a high percentage have had repairs mainly in the mid sizes, if your on the bigger kites in light breezes and racing or going back and forth the chances are youll see a good life from this kite, if you push your tricks or learn new tricks itll see the kite repairer, its a wicked kite though and is something ive reluctantly put up with

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Spark said..

I think it's awesome having all the insights into ozone that steve provides.

The thinner bladders on 17M,19M edge and zephyr.....I donno I find that kind of stuff interesting.

But why only ozone? We have our ozone guru which is great, but wheres the cab guru? The Slingshot guru? Naish, North, Airush, Best ect.

Thought I would ask the question anyway. Maybe theres a good reason and I don't know about it

steve should be able to answer all the cab and slingshot along with the ozone questions, not sure about the rest

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Kitepower Australia said..

@ rcr46401 Typo, meant 2014, the ones thats just been released.

Edge 2014 will hit the shelves early to mid April, dealers will be able to order it mid March, word is that it is even fast, more powerful, and boosts huge, but still with the easy to fly Ozone feel.

More news tomorrow, something new and very exciting .....

ok. So I'm better off to wait a month or 2 and get the new model.

Cheers

Unless you can score a bargain now and that suite your budget better? Then of course there is something new around the corner too

Hi Steve, the chrono looks very interesting. Have not considered a foil seriously, but lets face foils are in ozone specialty area, opens up new possibilities and thinking. Very few foils in my local area and what I have seen do not have boost or hang time compared to my edges/catalysts.