There never was, nor will there ever be. An organised society able to countenance calmy, the individual who issits he is right. While the vast majority is absolutely wrong. Auther Miller

Well it has certainly brightened my day, cheers.

The measure of success of written comunication is all about the message. ie weather wot the writer is thinking when he writes is the same as wot the reader is thinking when he reads. If it is then the message is a success.
Spellin n gramma has little to do with the likelihood of that success.

and then sometimes "the Meduim is the Message"
Marshall McClune

Personally I really like the liberation of expression this 'new age english' has given us all.

This is all very well...but C or bow? And why does the Rev2 bar suck so badly?, and how can I get sharper off the lips?

Those who write incomprehensible posts simply don't get heard because we don't know wtf they want to say. We all make the odd tpyo or spelling error, sometimes we are so burning up with passion that the ideas come out without much preparation - it is a forum after all, not an literary masterpiece or work of academic excellence. What I like is exchange of id...OMG, I am even making myself bored. U get the point.

Sharper off the lips?

BarryG said...

poor relative

WA - Australia

5665 Posts
Posted 09/03/2009, 10:22 pm
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For someone who is a law student your spelling and grammer is shocking.
Perhaps you should get an English tutor

Thanks relo for the advice in another thread. But relo you missed the "period" [Ha ha] - talk about being hippocritical - and the manufacturers must luv you cos they can sell you twice the size kite as anyone else. Oh and my little brother wants some more of those "my mum is so fat jokes" so while you are at telling us all about gramma and spelin stuff tell us some more family mum jokes.

It's hypocritical (unless you meant 'like a large African wallowing ungulate') [}:)]

Little Red Riding Hood went to Grammer's (sic) house, where she received a lesson in how to spell 'grammar'.

I ment hippo as in hippopotumus or that big fat thing that wollows in mud from Africa - have you seen Poor Relatives avitar? Thats what i mean.

puppetonastring said...

The measure of success of written comunication is all about the message. ie weather wot the writer is thinking when he writes is the same as wot the reader is thinking when he reads. If it is then the message is a success.
Spellin n gramma has little to do with the likelihood of that success.

and then sometimes "the Meduim is the Message"
Marshall McClune

Personally I really like the liberation of expression this 'new age english' has given us all.

What happens of course, is that it all just becomes another dialect. In the more isolated parts of Australia, such as Sydney and Melbourne, the local inhabitants speak a fair bit of "Strine", a dialect first documented in a landmark scientific research paperback by Nino Cullotta in the 1950's called "They're a wierd mob."

On the other hand, the English language has been much better preserved in the more civilised parts of the country, such as Perth, Port Hedland, and Hutt River Province.

Indeed, its was the perceived threat to refined English that led to the Hutt River uprising by Prince Leonard in the 1970's and its subsequent secession from Australia (although some say it had to do with tax evasion). Either way it is true to say that Western Australia continues to fly the flag for the English language and to send foreign aid to help the largely unexplored states of Nude Southern-Right Whales (NSW) and Vittorio (Vic. (sic)) who still struggle with the Queen's English.

Ok, so I guess you've heard enough then, ... eh?

Sandgroper, I agree absolutely that language does indeed contain enough redundancy that the intended meaning is easy to perceive even with considerable adjustments to spelling.

However, when you throw grammatical confusion into the mix, even well-spelled and technically well-formed sentences can be ambiguous:

Investigating investigators can be dangerous.

Therein lies the potential for beauty, confusion and humour that makes language complex. It is sometimes enough to have a single, literal meaning, as in the instructions to program your video. On other occasions though, language can and may as well be a source of pleasure in its form as well as its content (and yes, video-programming instructions often have their inadvertent charms).

As an analogy, two kiters each do a big jump with a late and cranking kiteloop thrown in. In terms of a mono-dimensional expression they have each done - and we might also say "expressed" - the same thing. Yet what if one of them does this with elegance, flair and power, the other with jerky, cumbersome awkwardness.

The difference is style, and it is a difference that, whether in language or kiting, may be the source of much enjoyment and wonder.

You tricky trickster. Well may your thread contain pretty prose, but the marketing mission in your advertisements is the same stuff as so many other offloaders. "Huge wind range" indeed? Might I suggest, in your return to the drawing board, that in light of the current financial upheaval potential purchasers may be less keen to part with their pennies. In an active marketplace there is one surefire way to move goods, as far as I can tell, and that is to give more value than other vendors. Money talks my friend, and if it is a buyers market then the seller must accommodate.

(BTW - I am about to seal a deal tonight on the best bit of bargaining I've ever done, oh joyous rapture!)

This thread is disfunctional.

Sorry mate, dysfunctional.

GreenPat said...

Not at all, please continue, your prose is most titillating.

(Ooh, did I say 'tit'? )

...so to continue...

Strine was officially recognised in a 1965 Dictionary by one "Afferbeck Lauder" (pronounced 'alphabetical order') called "Let Stalk Strine". With its new found formalisation, Strine swept the East Coast of Australia. However Strine never crossed the WA border thanks to a Quaratine Check Point at Eucla, insect spray on incoming flights, the erection of a rabbit-proof fence, and a campaign of shooting Starlings on the Nullabor cliffs.

We can see just how much better off we are in Western Australia when we consider the Strine language itself. Some classic examples:

Iwanta bisumbeer. Emma Chisit?
Goodonyamum. Tiptopsa wun.
Howzit goen yaol codga? Iaven sinyufer yonkers. Watcha binupta ?
Sheelbe rite.
Avagoodweekend.

When the later of these Strine expressions was broadcast in a 1970's national commercial for Aeroguard, Western Australians were finally exposed to the full horror of Strine. There for the first time, in front of their very eyes, English was hacked to death with violence, blood, and insecticide. All on prime time TV.

Thus started a long decline. Grammer was not safe in her house anymore. Abuses of English and unprovoked assaults on spelling increased. Syncope injection was so common it was even showing up in schools. Metaphors were allowed to mix with over-alliteration. People stole words and drove them into each other at high speed without a Poetic license. When caught they would only get light sentences. If this were not enough, Bob Hawke was elected Prime Minister. For over two decades the future of English in Australia was looking very bleak.

But then, like a miracle, Pauline Hanson appeared.

Such was this womans atrocious use of her own local dialect of Strine that Australians finally rose up against English illiteracy. Overnight (well at about 7:15pm actually), 90% of the country simultaneously reached for their English dictionaries - some for the first time in decades - to look up the English word "Xenophobic". It was a watershed. The drought had finally broken, It was the end of Strine. The battle for English was won, and the mother tongue resumed her rightful place in our diction.

nyaar,....ceptfer thostu pes kyshee lias Kath'nKim thatizs......

djdojo said...

and see that I have some lovely crossbow 3s for sale and make me some decent offers.

Anyone, somebody, hey, where'd you all go? Come back, they're in great condition. Think of the windrange, do it for the children.

Hmmff. Back to the drawing board. Adios.

oh dear, some xbows. not one, some! you poor man you. no wonder you posted, not much fun kiting on those. better to be on the forum. Mine were stollen (thank you, thank you).

Great kites for beginners - hope you manage to get rid of them. good luck.