Hi guys,

Recently I've had quite a full on boosting session during which I felt like I ripped my lower ab muscle (haven't checked with a doctor yet). It is really quite painful.

Anyone else had a similar issue? My theory is that I was practising some jumps without using a proper pop and thus relying too much on pulling my legs up and throwing the kite to 12 in order to jump.

Appreciate any feedback from this.

Hi. I have gone to using a seat harness (when jumping) as I've found a waist harness out too much stress on my abs. Lots of people have also commented about sore abs in this beginning of the season.

I've strained my wrist just looking at the forcast

I've pulled a muscle trying to look down your top

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jennavzla said..
Hi guys,

Recently I've had quite a full on boosting session during which I felt like I ripped my lower ab muscle (haven't checked with a doctor yet). It is really quite painful.

Anyone else had a similar issue? My theory is that I was practising some jumps without using a proper pop and thus relying too much on pulling my legs up and throwing the kite to 12 in order to jump.

Appreciate any feedback from this.

I had that before,,, its nothing.. just keep boosting the pain will go away...

also.. before this season I worked on my abs/core.. and now I dont get any pain after a boosting session.

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jennavzla said..
Hi guys,

Recently I've had quite a full on boosting session during which I felt like I ripped my lower ab muscle (haven't checked with a doctor yet). It is really quite painful.

Anyone else had a similar issue? My theory is that I was practising some jumps without using a proper pop and thus relying too much on pulling my legs up and throwing the kite to 12 in order to jump.

Appreciate any feedback from this.

Kiting gives you a rock hard core. Boosting in particular will work your core. If you haven't done too much boosting before or riding real powered then your core will scream after a hard session. It will get used to it and your abs will be strong as.

If you felt it straight away it is probably probably a tear but not much you can do about it other than rest
as the others say 3-4 is a normal period of soreness following a mega session
funnily enough, I don't get the same soreness riding waves
boosting must be more dynamic

I have strained/torn hip flexors before while boosting. Does it hurt to lift your knee while standing? I still managed to kite with that injury, without the big jumps.

Dude, if it's quite painful seek medical advice/attention. GP or a physio.

How heavy is your board?

Also Continually jumping with a heavy board, especially if you don't release properly off the back leg (if done properly the board will trail behind and below you where the momentum of your legs coming from this position puts less strain on your core)...Can cause issues. A lot of people tend to try and jump off the water, the throw the board up by leaning back, instead of using the kites power, loading against it, then releasing properly off the back leg.

Careful, a stomach muslce strain can turn into a hernia Quickly.

Thanks guys. Already have a doctor appointment this week.

Tara: it does not hurt to pull my leg up while standing, but only when twisting my body just like I would when ready to jump. I guess this outcasts the hip flexors? Can still kite if I do no jumps.

Eppo: Thanks for the advice, this sounds about right and more or less what happened to me. Board is not too heavy and it is a tiny one really (126cm), but I was pulling both my legs back when boosting. Must say that Im just starting to learn how to jump.

Cauncy: we are all envious of that forecast in Geraldton here in Perth

Kiting imho is a pretty complete workout
However the core is paramount , my first sessions after the doldrums relate to a bit of soreness in the lower abs and also thighs this is an indication of what muscles are used more than others, for a super strong core use a balance workout with power tubes , also Matt Pearce does a kite focused regime segment in kiteworld mag or online, it's called get pearsed, great simple regimes , also www. Kiteboardingexercises.com a great site to check out
How many kiters do you see warm up before a session, and then put their body under instant stress, = injury / strain

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cauncy said..
Kiting imho is a pretty complete workout
However the core is paramount , my first sessions after the doldrums relate to a bit of soreness in the lower abs and also thighs this is an indication of what muscles are used more than others, for a super strong core use a balance workout with power tubes , also Matt Pearce does a kite focused regime segment in kiteworld mag or online, it's called get pearsed, great simple regimes , also www. Kiteboardingexercises.com a great site to check out
How many kiters do you see warm up before a session, and then put their body under instant stress, = injury / strain

Thanks Cauncy ill check them out. And you are right, I've seen few people stretching properly before entering the water.

I hope your appointment isn't with our resident seabreeze doctor

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eppo said...
How heavy is your board?

Also Continually jumping with a heavy board, especially if you don't release properly off the back leg (if done properly the board will trail behind and below you where the momentum of your legs coming from this position puts less strain on your core)...Can cause issues. A lot of people tend to try and jump off the water, the throw the board up by leaning back, instead of using the kites power, loading against it, then releasing properly off the back leg.

Careful, a stomach muslce strain can turn into a hernia Quickly.

Eppo,

Jenna is riding your original radical 4 126 - from what I'm told it's been a great upgrade for her !

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Nathe said...
I hope your appointment isn't with our resident seabreeze doctor

I put the ointment in appointment

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jennavzla said..

cauncy said..
Kiting imho is a pretty complete workout
However the core is paramount , my first sessions after the doldrums relate to a bit of soreness in the lower abs and also thighs this is an indication of what muscles are used more than others, for a super strong core use a balance workout with power tubes , also Matt Pearce does a kite focused regime segment in kiteworld mag or online, it's called get pearsed, great simple regimes , also www. Kiteboardingexercises.com a great site to check out
How many kiters do you see warm up before a session, and then put their body under instant stress, = injury / strain

Thanks Cauncy ill check them out. And you are right, I've seen few people stretching properly before entering the water.

I warm up pumping up my kite :)

I also try and cruise around for 10 mniutes without trying anything too ambitious both to loosen up and get a feel for the conditions etc.
Not that I do anything very radical anyway.

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jamesperth said..

eppo said...
How heavy is your board?

Also Continually jumping with a heavy board, especially if you don't release properly off the back leg (if done properly the board will trail behind and below you where the momentum of your legs coming from this position puts less strain on your core)...Can cause issues. A lot of people tend to try and jump off the water, the throw the board up by leaning back, instead of using the kites power, loading against it, then releasing properly off the back leg.

Careful, a stomach muslce strain can turn into a hernia Quickly.

Eppo,

Jenna is riding your original radical 4 126 - from what I'm told it's been a great upgrade for her !

ah cool. No that board is fine weight wise, great little weapon.

I nearly did a hernia one year jumping the damn mako king too much.

But yeh, let the kite do the work, release off the back foot, rotate your body the opposite way to travel and your legs will follow with their own momentum. You don't jump off the water, you are sent off the water by releasing the line load from your back leg letting go of the edge...with of course some stamp down from that leg. If it helps, try pointing your front toes/leg down towards the water as you go into the air. Lift your back leg to touch your ass, but keep that front leg pointing down unless of course you are doing a deadman.

and yes avoid the seabreeze doctor if you can....

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eppo said..

jamesperth said..

eppo said...
How heavy is your board?

Also Continually jumping with a heavy board, especially if you don't release properly off the back leg (if done properly the board will trail behind and below you where the momentum of your legs coming from this position puts less strain on your core)...Can cause issues. A lot of people tend to try and jump off the water, the throw the board up by leaning back, instead of using the kites power, loading against it, then releasing properly off the back leg.

Careful, a stomach muslce strain can turn into a hernia Quickly.

Eppo,

Jenna is riding your original radical 4 126 - from what I'm told it's been a great upgrade for her !

ah cool. No that board is fine weight wise, great little weapon.

I nearly did a hernia one year jumping the damn mako king too much.

But yeh, let the kite do the work, release off the back foot, rotate your body the opposite way to travel and your legs will follow with their own momentum. You don't jump off the water, you are sent off the water by releasing the line load from your back leg letting go of the edge...with of course some stamp down from that leg. If it helps, try pointing your front toes/leg down towards the water as you go into the air. Lift your back leg to touch your ass, but keep that front leg pointing down unless of course you are doing a deadman.

and yes avoid the seabreeze doctor if you can....

Thanks Eppo, that is really helpful!

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cauncy said..
Kiting imho is a pretty complete workout
However the core is paramount , my first sessions after the doldrums relate to a bit of soreness in the lower abs and also thighs this is an indication of what muscles are used more than others, for a super strong core use a balance workout with power tubes , also Matt Pearce does a kite focused regime segment in kiteworld mag or online, it's called get pearsed, great simple regimes , also www. Kiteboardingexercises.com a great site to check out
How many kiters do you see warm up before a session, and then put their body under instant stress, = injury / strain

Nah. Kiteboarding Is pretty low impact and low effort as workouts go. Even a powered as hell 40 knot session only gets an average rating on my effortothemeter.

But it does give you rock hard core and general muscular fitness. But its shi thouse for aerobic and mild to useless for your legs.

If I do more kiting and less mountain biking I get less fit more fat but my core is rock solid. When I ramp the mountain bike sessions up and back off the kite sessions I loose some core muscle get leaner, loose fat, increase fitness increase leg strength and generally feel healthier.

Lucky for my I do both and have good core and good aerobic and good leg strength.

PS I can't be arsed doing any training for either kiting or bike. I just ride my bike and fly my kite and if i'm grinning its all good.

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theDoctor said..

Nathe said...
I hope your appointment isn't with our resident seabreeze doctor

I put the ointment in appointment

more like the disapointment

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Plummet said...

cauncy said..
Kiting imho is a pretty complete workout
However the core is paramount , my first sessions after the doldrums relate to a bit of soreness in the lower abs and also thighs this is an indication of what muscles are used more than others, for a super strong core use a balance workout with power tubes , also Matt Pearce does a kite focused regime segment in kiteworld mag or online, it's called get pearsed, great simple regimes , also www. Kiteboardingexercises.com a great site to check out
How many kiters do you see warm up before a session, and then put their body under instant stress, = injury / strain

Nah. Kiteboarding Is pretty low impact and low effort as workouts go. Even a powered as hell 40 knot session only gets an average rating on my effortothemeter.

But it does give you rock hard core and general muscular fitness. But its shi thouse for aerobic and mild to useless for your legs.

If I do more kiting and less mountain biking I get less fit more fat but my core is rock solid. When I ramp the mountain bike sessions up and back off the kite sessions I loose some core muscle get leaner, loose fat, increase fitness increase leg strength and generally feel healthier.

Lucky for my I do both and have good core and good aerobic and good leg strength.

PS I can't be arsed doing any training for either kiting or bike. I just ride my bike and fly my kite and if i'm grinning its all good.

Well your not going hard enough
You need to give your Reo and cat the flick and get something with power
Get a 7 edge/ 8 Vegas/ for your 40 Knt sessions ,
Your kite choice is bi- sexual

Kiting is definetly anaerobic unless you do a sequence of tricks one after the other but predominantly not aerobic. That being said given the way i ride there's not much fat on my bones by the end of the season. Stretching is paramount each day to stay supple enough to stop injury. Unless you are just mowing the lawn with an occasional big jump ....

Wind conditions and kite choice definitely contribute to your conditioning , the stronger the pull requires you to edge harder which relates to your legs and core working harder,
Add jumps or directional changes whilst jumping requires a strong core , or you won't land most of them, length of sessions increase as your strengthening, pretty important to have some rest inbetween for recovery
But who does that when its blowing

The L-sit is the answer to your problems... work up to holding it for a minute, and alternate with a V-sit. Do this every night during winter while watching TV and you will be a total badass when you are kiting.

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cauncy said..

Plummet said...

cauncy said..
Kiting imho is a pretty complete workout
However the core is paramount , my first sessions after the doldrums relate to a bit of soreness in the lower abs and also thighs this is an indication of what muscles are used more than others, for a super strong core use a balance workout with power tubes , also Matt Pearce does a kite focused regime segment in kiteworld mag or online, it's called get pearsed, great simple regimes , also www. Kiteboardingexercises.com a great site to check out
How many kiters do you see warm up before a session, and then put their body under instant stress, = injury / strain

Nah. Kiteboarding Is pretty low impact and low effort as workouts go. Even a powered as hell 40 knot session only gets an average rating on my effortothemeter.

But it does give you rock hard core and general muscular fitness. But its shi thouse for aerobic and mild to useless for your legs.

If I do more kiting and less mountain biking I get less fit more fat but my core is rock solid. When I ramp the mountain bike sessions up and back off the kite sessions I loose some core muscle get leaner, loose fat, increase fitness increase leg strength and generally feel healthier.

Lucky for my I do both and have good core and good aerobic and good leg strength.

PS I can't be arsed doing any training for either kiting or bike. I just ride my bike and fly my kite and if i'm grinning its all good.

Well your not going hard enough
You need to give your Reo and cat the flick and get something with power
Get a 7 edge/ 8 Vegas/ for your 40 Knt sessions ,
Your kite choice is bi- sexual

I do need a 7 edge. But still cant afford one!.... But even on my most stupidly powered on my 10 edge and 13 edges get an average rating on my aerobicometer.

But I guess I've been biking for 20 years, and I push that hard. Its simply way more effort than even the most ridiculous kiting. And I do some ridiculous kiting.

You are not the engine kiting. All you need to do is transfer the power through your body. So any sport that requires you to be the engine will require more effort.

Sounds like your greatest work out is wanking

I love all the Doctors, Physios and Exercise Scientists on this forum. I have never read more uninformed drivel in my life.

And you would know because you are a ....? Obviously well informed because you know...? You've been kiting for how long....?

Here's a couple Jenna,
By DR Sarah Ellis, I use the one on the left
Makes you gut burn, helped my core strengthening for my lower back

mick mate, you aren't a Doctor, Physio or Exercise Scientists (whatever the fark that is)...what are you doing posting this!