Is this the one?

Thats a fkn 15 mtr nolfolk, easy climbing they are

Its a shame for "MONKEY griffin" kites that even a Cab kite can climb up the tree but their monkey kites can't.

gruezi said...
Can you believe it, there must have been 10-15 people hanging around and not one offered a hand.............shame, shame, shame!

No I cant.
Doesnt sound anything like the Melville I once knew

I'd heard this SB IDS kites had good hangtime, but thats just ridiculous.......

Sorry but I dont care how much experience you have, if you are flying your kite near trees, which you shouldnt, then you should definately not be taking you eye off your kite even for a second.

I probably would not have bothered helping the guy because

1. I would have thought he was an idiot and got what was coming.

2. He has put my local spot at risk...by providing evidence to the people who want to ban kiting.

Thommo - whats happening about the rumoured "Back to Melville Day" for the founding fathers of the Melville Crew.
Sounds like the newbys around today need to be shown how to socialise - proper-like

ps I reckon we could be dubbed 'the buoys brigade'.
Maybe call it a buoys night out

Its pretty obvious but its blatent that this guy is just a total retard!!!
And is proably better suited to windsurfing!!! No kite to put in the trees then

Sometimes chit happens unfortunately

as a kid i was always losing my homade kites in the trees & powerlines

and now that im older
i cant even get a mention for a tree gobleing up my surfkite

guess i dont kite in a rich enough spot lol

Yeah - rules apply to all, as will a ban should it eventuate.

Use some uncommon common sense people...

Enough said.

Kite on.

We all know that a kite luffing out on a light wind day and catching in the tree is no big deal in itself - nor is it any real danger to anyone but it looks good in pics and it is definite evidence of the rules being broken.
Melville has always seemed to have more than its fair share of less than commonly sensed people but if the guy whose kite ended up in the tree (and was seen to be photographed by the local anti-kite brigade) is back breaking the rules (which will also be photographed immediately) then its time someone started letting down tyres everytime he/she goes out. Seriously. If the guy has been spoken to and the guidelines explained then (no violence obviously) but some positive action is needed.
I know its hard when the signs arent up explaining the 50M zone etc etc but thats the councils perogative & decision while they are currently re-debating the total kite ban option. If the sign was up you would see that you have already lost 5 months of the year. Already council & DPI have resolved there will be NO KITING at Melville from the end of March till the beginning of Sept. That will be the least of the restriction/s and it will be commencing in just 6 weeks time!
If locals cannot get all kiters to abide by the buoys & guidelines it will become a total ban. There will be no kiting at Melville at all.

How more definite does this message have to be for the current locals to act. You need to get that brochure (that WAKSA will pay for) printed and you need to hand it around and talk to EVERY kiter who turns up at the beach.
No-one else is going to save your beach for you.
It may even be too late already.

I agree with Reli and with Puppet up to a point.

If Melville is lost then the flood of newbies will hit all the other beaches and then it is just a matter of time before they get bans as well.

I pay my WAKSA membership so that the resources are put to keep access at all our spots. Now Melville is critical for many reasons and thus I feel that WAKSA should put together the flyer that is mentioned and I am happy to rally people for distribution. I am even willing to put down the rules as I have done many times, both on the WAKSA site and on this forum. The updates that I requested some months back were not put on the WAKSA site. This is a shame as it is one of the reasons I pay my membership.

WAKSA volunteers do plenty I know and the local user groups should do a lot more. However, if it is always left to the same few local people to manage their spot then I am sorry to say we will lose it. To all the "free riders" (a free rider is someone who profits from everyone else's hard work without doing anything themselves) at Melville I say get your act together before the spot gets a total ban.

Personally I feel I have done enough and am at the point where I don't give a crap if the place gets a ban. I'll always find the time to kite somewhere and have a good time. For me Melville is special though and it would be a real shame for all kiters in Perth if we lose it.

So my message to WAKSA is this, do what you feel is important to kiters in WA and if losing Melville is not all that critical then so be it. If will be a sad day for kiting in Perth when and if Melville is gone.

Finally, and this is to all the shops in and around Perth......what are you all doing to keep our access open? In my opinion the commercial side of the sport gets the biggest "free ride."

Puppet, in reference to your comments about the March to Sep ban - do you know how that will be advertised? ie if you didn't read seabreeze (ie Tuero's), how would you know? Do they plan to post some signage?

Despite the dude's apparent disregard for the dodgy wind, I would've helped him - the less time a kite spends up a tree, the less time locals have to take piccies to add to their bulging files. He may have deserved it, but bad press helps no one.

Thanks for that nebbian, now I am beginning to see why the one local resident said they "loved the wind surfers." Are y'all providing them with photos and bad mouthing kiters? I certainly would not think so....surely I am wrong.

Otherwise, all cool and I think my comment about "free riders" holds a bit given the photo evidence on the Wind Surfing link.

Have a good sleep bud.

And to all the councilors or people living on MBP, there are some things that I'm sure you all think about.

Some thoughts of mine...(the late easterlies make me stay up and think about kiting).

1. A child was run over by a car on the road a few years back...very sad. Have they banned cars on the road?

2. When the car was invented and first delivery made to some town in the mid-west of the US...they collided. There were many people that wanted to ban cars; perhaps they were visionaries, but history proved them wrong so far.

3. What is a preferred activity for you...hooning in cars or kiting?

4. The river in front of your doorstep is finally being used and enjoyed by hundreds of people whenever there is wind. Is this wrong? The river is not your private playground, we all pay taxes and choose to live in this country because of the fact that most natural resources can be enjoyed by us all. We do not want to become like others where private ownership is worshiped to the extent that it turns the whole country in to a wasteland of empty mansions and urban ghettos; or do we? We are young a free and doing cool stuff like kite surfing......things of the future and not the past.

5. The plan agreed on a year ago between kiters and officials was doomed to fail because one half of the reps. did their bit by putting up the buoys, while the other did not (putting up the signs); is this fair to kiters and the other department? Don't think so.

I'm running out of steam, but just had to get it out.

Good night

gruezi said...

Thanks for that nebbian, now I am beginning to see why the one local resident said they "loved the wind surfers." Are y'all providing them with photos and bad mouthing kiters? I certainly would not think so....surely I am wrong.

Otherwise, all cool and I think my comment about "free riders" holds a bit given the photo evidence on the Wind Surfing link.

Have a good sleep bud.

And to all the councilors or people living on MBP, there are some things that I'm sure you all think about.

Some thoughts of mine...(the late easterlies make me stay up and think about kiting).

1. A child was run over by a car on the road a few years back...very sad. Have they banned cars on the road?

2. When the car was invented and first delivery made to some town in the mid-west of the US...they collided. There were many people that wanted to ban cars; perhaps they were visionaries, but history proved them wrong so far.

3. What is a preferred activity for you...hooning in cars or kiting?

4. The river in front of your doorstep is finally being used and enjoyed by hundreds of people whenever there is wind. Is this wrong? The river is not your private playground, we all pay taxes and choose to live in this country because of the fact that most natural resources can be enjoyed by us all. We do not want to become like others where private ownership is worshiped to the extent that it turns the whole country in to a wasteland of empty mansions and urban ghettos; or do we? We are young a free and doing cool stuff like kite surfing......things of the future and not the past.

5. The plan agreed on a year ago between kiters and officials was doomed to fail because one half of the reps. did their bit by putting up the buoys, while the other did not (putting up the signs); is this fair to kiters and the other department? Don't think so.

I'm running out of steam, but just had to get it out.

Good night

all true, and in a perfect world would work...
however 99.99% of the population travel in cars, and a great deal of them relpy on cars to live. We simply cannot do without them.
Kites on the other hand....

buckwheat said...

Puppet, in reference to your comments about the March to Sep ban - do you know how that will be advertised? ie if you didn't read seabreeze (ie Tuero's), how would you know? Do they plan to post some signage?

Hey Buckwheat I can only assume the 'off' season will be signed by Melville council. But then we were supposed to have the 'on' season guidelines up for summer as well so Im none the wiser really.
I will make another follow-up call to our MCC contact and let everyone here on SB know when I find out what the GO is.