Introducing the North CLICK BAR

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NKBAUS > 9 months ago, 23 Aug 2016

eppo

9762 posts

23 Aug 2016 12:27pm

Yes I was also wondering...does that mean danzodirect is not going to buy the new north bar? Just a little unclear...

ooh ooh I have a question for those in the know...

That fifth...is there a stopper ball in the kit to go behind the Y split..if not good luck using it for a loaded fifth?

Puetz

2186 posts

23 Aug 2016 2:03pm

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WA Surf said..

Puetz said..
... just wondering, how does the depower 'click' work with slack lines, does it still operate normally, does it need a bit of back line pressure to operate, i.e. your preparing for launching of kite and you want it depowered it before hand?

Robbie

There's nothing 'pushing' the line out of the bar to depower, so yeah you'll need a tiny bit of back line pressure. The same as if your bar is depowered and you want to power it up before launching (say it was windy last time you used it, now it's light), you just grab the back lines and pull, or i stand on the lead lines as i pick it up and press the button.

Cheers
Drew

... ah ok, cool!

SaveTheWhales

1900 posts

23 Aug 2016 12:41pm

Well as History has its way - what the big Brand boasts it has done, proving no maintenance reliability...

and what actually happens with small moving parts inside a sand salted crystallized bar - im guessing nature will prove a Porky Pie is in effect.

Show how the bar is sealed and is it internally coated to prevent corrosion ?

I'm very skeptical of big brands who can't even make an above the bar Swivel work n last properly..

lostatsea

147 posts

23 Aug 2016 12:41pm

cheers Drew, that clears up a couple things, will you have one available at your demo day coming up?

pearl

NSW

984 posts

23 Aug 2016 2:45pm

How have wave riders with a sliding hook found it. I hold the bar single handed in different hands depending on direction and move. For this reason I often trim with either hand, which is easy with a central cleat. It also may place the right side of the bar ackwardly out of reach to quickly trim when on wave. I'm guessing it's a matter of training yourself to only use right or one hand. Also wouldnt you have to stop any bar input ie steering to trim, holding bar still. I'm not trying to bag it. In fact I think it looks great, but wondering if anyone with slider on a wave has loved it?

WA Surf

336 posts

23 Aug 2016 12:51pm

lostatsea, certainly will!

Pearl, yeah i found it took a bit of getting used to. I'll see if i can find some lefty's to ride it in the surf this weekend and let you.

Cheers
Drew

KIT33R

NSW

1716 posts

23 Aug 2016 2:57pm

I think it has a market but for me it's an answer to a problem that doesn't exist.

Now, if you could just combine it with the Cabrinha Fireball you might have something.

WA Surf

336 posts

23 Aug 2016 1:07pm

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KIT33R said..
I think it has a market but for me it's an answer to a problem that doesn't exist.

I totally feel that! When I first used it last summer, my thoughts were "this is cool, but my normal cleat depower is fine". The more I use it the more I find benefits. And I've found more benefits than disadvantages.

Cheers
Drew

Saffer

VIC

4501 posts

23 Aug 2016 3:22pm

I think its the same reason Cabrinha released a cleat bar. The benefits of choice to the rider. Different bars will suit different riders, different riding styles etc.

sci

762 posts

23 Aug 2016 1:59pm

I tried one of the very first prototypes and Enjoyed the bar immensely. This is now the cleanest bar on the market. Like any new product early adopters will pay through the nose but this is not a product for everyone. I am sure as North roll this technology out across the line over the next few seasons the cost will come down.

I look forward to receiving the product and will put up a review.

Smithy

VIC

859 posts

23 Aug 2016 5:13pm

Interesting approach... not sure how many cashed up newbies are out there but I'm not sure about the idea of an inexperienced pilot grabbing hold of one end of their bar to adjust depower..., centre line depower is at least balanced for the inexperienced

nikmcc

NSW

260 posts

23 Aug 2016 5:24pm

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Smithy said..
Interesting approach... not sure how many cashed up newbies are out there but I'm not sure about the idea of an inexperienced pilot grabbing hold of one end of their bar to adjust depower..., centre line depower is at least balanced for the inexperienced

Yeah that was my thought...
I reckon it would be bit weird and awkward grabbing one side of the bar, especially when you need to d power quickly.

castill0jf

VIC

563 posts

23 Aug 2016 6:26pm

over $ 900 AUS is out of reach for most citizens in Australia. I will wait a few years when and if the price drops a lot

BrisKites

QLD

1292 posts

23 Aug 2016 6:36pm

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csjena said..
So please BRISKITES tell us what the damage is? $$$$???? Let it out......

$950 - www.briskites.com.au/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1921

toppleover

QLD

2067 posts

23 Aug 2016 6:38pm

At over $900AU, it really is a game changer.

BrisKites

QLD

1292 posts

23 Aug 2016 6:38pm

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DanozDirect said..
Sorry this does not click with me!

BrisKites - how the effen are you still in business?

ps. But you have to click both ends of the bar to do what I can do in less than 1 second by pulling the trim strap.!?!?!?

It's more of a passion than a business

You only have to click at one end of the bar.

RosieKB

VIC

240 posts

23 Aug 2016 7:46pm

I'm more in to the control bar changes than the kite changes the last few seasons - cost aside the bar looks great

Chris_M

2132 posts

23 Aug 2016 6:35pm

I think it looks nice and stuff, but I've been out a couple of crazy nuking gusty sessions over winter and I want my depower strap to be able to be yanked hard occasionally. If I lived somewhere super consistent then it looks like a good option, but I think I'd be smeared across the dunes trying to depower using this mechanism in some of my squally sessions lately.

Edit: What's it like changing the lines on this thing AND how much it gonna sting me?

weebitbreezy

633 posts

23 Aug 2016 7:15pm

Interesting. At 4:44 and 4:49 you can clearly see that both riders are using low V split points. Did anyone notice that they weren't riding North kites? Or are North finally joining the rest of the world and moving to a low V split point.

That makes sense for including a changeable V/Y split. You'd need to offer backwards compatibility for the older kites.

eppo

9762 posts

23 Aug 2016 8:00pm

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weebitbreezy said..
Interesting. At 4:44 and 4:49 you can clearly see that both riders are using low V split points. Did anyone notice that they weren't riding North kites? Or are North finally joining the rest of the world and moving to a low V split point.

Dear god I hope not...

and I suppose all you folk have fallen for non pulleyed bridalled low v split (more direct bahahahah) bullsh1t as well. Floppy jalopy jellyfish ba loppy...lol.

Saffer

VIC

4501 posts

23 Aug 2016 10:03pm

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Chris_M said..
I think it looks nice and stuff, but I've been out a couple of crazy nuking gusty sessions over winter and I want my depower strap to be able to be yanked hard occasionally. If I lived somewhere super consistent then it looks like a good option, but I think I'd be smeared across the dunes trying to depower using this mechanism in some of my squally sessions lately.

Edit: What's it like changing the lines on this thing AND how much it gonna sting me?

Not sure i agree. From what I can see, you have more depower on the stretch for the bar itself because you don't need a cleat so that would probably eliminate this issue.

Zebra80

NSW

352 posts

23 Aug 2016 10:19pm

The more simple is better, sounds to complicated and
I reckon the only people that will like that are the dealers just another excuse to put the price up.
Of course they won't tell you the bad side of the history

dachopper

1802 posts

24 Aug 2016 12:04am

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Gorgo said..
Sounds very nice. It is surprising that North are bringing out something complex and innovative when they have lagged behind every other innovation in the history of kiteboarding.

Price?
Durability and resistance to sand?
Width adjustment?
Protection from board damage from bar end fittings?
What's the little handle for at the top of the depower line? (Manual landing line?)
Show the safety in operation?

So what do you sell then ?

dachopper

1802 posts

24 Aug 2016 12:22am

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WA Surf said..
DanozDirect - You don't click both ends of the bar. The left line winds through the centre of the bar, you just adjust the one end. It's about average as far as how long it takes to adjust to your desired power, so your point there is a bit mute.

This design has been 7 years in development. Every bar on the market breaks over time. We're playing in some of the harshest conditions with UV, salt and sand all detrimental to every piece of equipment we use. The running maintenance and ease of replacement of parts is no harder on this bar than any other bar on the market.

lostatsea - yeah it's super easy to adjust the Y split, and adding the 5th line literally takes about 60 seconds.

The bar is expensive, but remember North isn't forcing anyone to buy it. They still are providing the Trust Bar at the same price as last year, and is comparable in price to the other big brands.

CheersDrew

I've got to say,

The hadlow wakestyle bar with 6 lines kicks ass on the smaller norths, I wonder if it is compatible with this one, or if the Y split is supposed to compromise ?

s_h_a_n_o

88 posts

24 Aug 2016 12:55am

For those with maintenance queries, it looks like a whole series of videos have just been released on YouTube:

How to change leader lines:

How to replace the Winder:

How to replace the Push Button:

How to replace the Metal Plate and Pin Screws:

How to change the Sliding Stopper:

How to replace the left Stoppergear:

How to replace the right Cover:

How to change the centre Depower Line:

How to change the Split Spool:

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How to replace the Chicken Loop and Chicken Dig:

How to clean:

There's a few others around too. Hopefully they answer some questions - haven't really watched any of them yet.

Stephen101

1 posts

24 Aug 2016 2:49am

I've been using one of the prototype bars (about 8 months old) for the last couple of weeks. It's very easy to use and everything is still working super smoothly. No sign of wear or jamming up yet. I guess the verdict on long term durability is still out but it looks pretty solid so far

DanozDirect

QLD

106 posts

24 Aug 2016 6:36am

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shano82 said..
For those with maintenance queries, it looks like a whole series of videos have just been released on YouTube:

How to change leader lines:

How to replace the Winder:

How to replace the Push Button:

How to replace the Metal Plate and Pin Screws:

How to change the Sliding Stopper:

How to replace the left Stoppergear:

How to replace the right Cover:

How to change the centre Depower Line:

How to change the Split Spool:

How to replace the Chicken Loop and Chicken Dig:

How to clean:

There's a few others around too. Hopefully they answer some questions - haven't really watched any of them yet.

How about...

How to not waste your life maintaing a bar inbetween seasons and spend it more on your family or kite surfing?

Bahhumbug

Sorry... I'll try one soon and write a review. That would be more of a positive contribution.

Fly on da wall

725 posts

24 Aug 2016 7:10am

Just curious if it would damage your surfboard if you gave it
a bump when falling of with the winder.
Looks solid.. but not worth taking a second mortgage for it!

eppo

9762 posts

24 Aug 2016 6:46am

Hey guys as usual the other forum has some great insight by Dan at North (if you havent heard of him and you ever want to know about north products he's da man).

kiteforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2393626

Might answer some questions, I'm pouring through it now.

there is also another thread with a good review from a wave rider in this one...

www.kiteforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2393616&start=10

Saffer

VIC

4501 posts

24 Aug 2016 9:51am

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DanozDirect said..

How about...

How to not waste your life maintaing a bar inbetween seasons and spend it more on your family or kite surfing?

Bahhumbug

Sorry... I'll try one soon and write a review. That would be more of a positive contribution.

Or you could just give it to a show and ask them to do it.

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