It sppears that the City of Stirling is copying The City of Joondalup with their
"Beach Recreational Activity Policy"

They eying to impose restrictions on kitesurfing (and others) for their beaches. If they go ahead, restrictions are anticipated to be implemented on 1/12/2011. Have a look at:

www.inmycommunity.com.au/

http://www.stirling.wa.gov.au/NR/rdonlyres/103FC67C-D0B0-4609-8526-66BCC836BBCD/0/CouncilMinutes13September2011.pdf

page 337 onwards and policy, page 342 and 343.

Exclusion Zones:
1) North of Colin St drain to Reserve St
2) Starting on south end of car park 3 going to south of Trigg boat ramp

Kind off kills the City Beach to Trigg downwinder and makes us get off at crowded Brighton

mazdon said...

or possibly a shift of the fairly stable dune system back a bit where that grass and park runs into it

put the pipe down

graceful said...

mazdon said...

or possibly a shift of the fairly stable dune system back a bit where that grass and park runs into it

put the pipe down

busted...had it in my hand...but i didn't inhale!!!

Ahhh fellas - just saw some of the docs (not the whole 300 pages minutes of meeting) which seems to show it has already been voted in by council and thus the ban is on for this summer, full stop.

anyone can confirm?

If so, WAKSA and WWA need to be on the doorstep of CoS pronto!

wanna email them? All those voting, plus Council admin:


stirling@stirling.wa.gov.au; leonie.getty@stirling.wa.gov.au; jason.robbins@stirling.wa.gov.au; bill.stewart@stirling.wa.gov.au; elizabeth.re@stirling.wa.gov.au; stephanie.proud@stirling.wa.gov.au; sharon.cooke@stirling.wa.gov.au; terry.tyzack@stirling.wa.gov.au; robin.furlong@stirling.wa.gov.au; rod.willox@stirling.wa.gov.au; paul.collins@stirling.wa.gov.au; david.michael@stirling.wa.gov.au; Giovanni.Italiano@stirling.wa.gov.au

Stirling council controls all the water out to rotto as far as I know. I heard they are raising an army with Joondalup to take over other councils aswell.



I heard the BAN enforcer is going to be just as good at running over gear in the water as the current beach buggies on the sand.

Nothing to stop every windsurfer and kiter in Perth rigging up in that area all morning and staying off the water for a few hours, then going elsewhere when the seabreeze comes in

I imagine the councils like stirling and joondalup are hoping no one looks up the laws

At Brighton it still amazes me 30 kiters out, 25knot seabreeze, all in one 100 meter stretch and people come and swim right in the middle. I mean there's a law against walking on the freeway.

Okay, we used to kite this area before the explosion of the sport, where I basically learnt on two line foils...ouch.

I then went to karratha for 2 and a half years, then down to mandurah for past 7.

Demoed a kite there last summer... farq me! I was sailing just north of this exlusion area, but watched kites - too many to count, head downwind through this area and/or land their kites.

Most crew were great, a few newbies who shouldn't be there through such traffic, but overall, considering the traffic, behaved well.

But...too many swimmers etc in this area to kite - an accident waiting to happen.

Just a fact, this is a sensible decision. Shame becuase this is where the best banks are.

NickT – It is good that the surfers are classed as medium risk, that way they can surf in the exclusion zone with the swimmers otherwise they will be outside of that zone with us.

I really don't think we have lost much as during summer common sense would tell you not to kite in that area and at least the council have the sense to make it open for us outside of the swimmer season.

Would be nice if the council included a no swimming or surfing outside of the exclusion zone too

hey its alright, I think they got the wrong scarbs - the picture above is surely on the east coast of oz

In June 2010, the City of Stirling released the Scarborough Beach Urban Design Master Plan. The Master Plan failed to adequately consider kite surfing and wind surfing issues. Without any prior consultation or understanding of kiting issues, the consultants writing the Master Plan gallocatedh kite and wind surfers to the northern end of Scarborough beach, completely ignoring years of kiting history at/near the Brighton Road end of the beach.

WAKSA made representations to the City of Stirling, including a formal submission pointing out the existing custom and practice regarding kite access to/on Brighton beach, and met with Stirling staff to discuss ongoing access issues. Prior to our submission, a meeting with local kiters was also arranged to discuss issues of concern and to formulate the correct message to be delivered to City of Stirling.

Our submission can be summarised with the following points:
œ Kite exclusion zones around swimming areas established by Scarboro SLSC will be endorsed by WAKSA and local kiters;
œ WAKSA encourages the continuation of existing access arrangements for kite surfers at Scarborough/Brighton beach;
œ Local kiters have self regulated the sport for several years. WAKSA encourages the continuation of this approach amongst kiters at Scarborough/Brighton;
œ WAKSA would encourage the installation of appropriate signage;
œ In the event of any proposed changes at Scarborough/Brighton beach, WAKSA encourages the City of Stirling to give significant consideration to seasonal kiting requirements.

In light of the recent decision by the City of Stirling and the images posted on SB, the exclusion zone at Scarborough beach is nothing new given that kiters should not kite in/through a flagged area or in/through a swimming area.

The zone established at Scarborough is seasonal; reflects "best practice" safe kiting; and recognises that kiters have a continuing right to the southern end of the beach.

We encourage all kiters to comply with the zones.

So after decades of incident free windsurfing at brighton
- in our small little area -

on a nice little windswell bank (after spending the last 8 years dodging lines)

and possibly an expensive" public liability event" where a kitesurfer was covered by his WAKSA insurance


Windsurfing is now also banned as a result of a few uncontrollable kite clowns.






nice one.

Mark _australia said...
...I'm suprised at the lack of posts in this thread. Does the kitesurfing community realise that we are all banned as of THIS WEEKEND at Scarborough? Not being discussed - not being considered - it has happened.

Mark, yes, appears that the windsurfers are more active. Why don't we try and work together?

Ban not from this weekend, but December. The minutes state:

"That the Beach Recreational Activity Policy be ADOPTED, taking effect as from 1 December 2011 and relevant stakeholders and public be advised."

ueberqwerty said...

Mark _australia said...
...I'm suprised at the lack of posts in this thread. Does the kitesurfing community realise that we are all banned as of THIS WEEKEND at Scarborough? Not being discussed - not being considered - it has happened.

Ban not from this weekend, but December. The minutes state:

"That the Beach Recreational Activity Policy be ADOPTED, taking effect as from 1 December 2011 and relevant stakeholders and public be advised."

Ooops. sure I saw 01/10 in there (duh)

Rider5 said...

You beat me to it Reflex

WELL DONE KITERS after sailing Scarborough for 20 odd years I've now been banned.
Revenge will be sweat I'll be coming down your way this season with another 40 windsurfers. What fun we're going to have.[}:)]

Oh 40 wind surfers so what like just as many kiters, that are there regularly? I am sure Dutches, Peli Point and Lucky bay should be empty for that to happen :-) And it would seem you think windsurfers are of no danger to swimmers or anyone else? This will just piss people off more, kiters and windsurfer fighting amongst swimmers.

Strangely enough many things our forefathers did ( for more than 20 years) are now banned too, overfishing, logging, slash'n'burn farming and generally trashing the environment.

I am just so glad people I didn't vote for and had no option to vote for(Stirling Council) are representing me so well :-( Windsport people would be even happier if they owned property in the area, for sure.

I don't like what this could all potentially turn into.

I know there's always seemed to be a rivalry between kiters and windsurfers, but it always seemed to me to be mostly friendly spirited.
I just hate the possibility that I and all the other responsible kiters are potentially going to become the target of animosity from windsurfers all due to the fact that only a very small minority of d*ckhead kiters have ruined the harmony that has previously existed between all water users in particular areas.

But look, it's not only the actions of the few that are ruining things for all of us, it is that, but combined with the fact that a lot of people who have the power to make the banning decisions are rampant Neophobes.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neophobia
(Neophobia is the fear of new things or experiences.)

It is human nature to be slightly neophobic and that is what these idiots that are giving us kiters a bad name don't seem to or want to realise; guys, kiteboarding is still very new in a lot of people's eyes, they don't fully understand it and I'm sure that for a lot of councillors, until it is brought to their attention by way of complaints, didn't even know about it previously, and that is why we keep facing these knee jerk and ill considered reactions from councils.
Arrogant kiters, please stop acting like Ass-clowns.

Surely we should all be working together to prevent this ** from going on, windsurfers and kiters, we are all wind-kin after all.