At what point did you stop progressing?

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NorthernKitesAUS
NorthernKitesAUS
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16 Sep 2016 10:57am
Is that Yeppoon Kemp? Noiiiceee
eppo
eppo
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16 Sep 2016 10:40am

can I pause, just for a bit. Not to jinx it, but this has actually been a useful, productive and civil conversation.

Well I'll be damned...we must be losing our edge.
kemp90
kemp90
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16 Sep 2016 4:28pm
DylanJamo said...
Is that Yeppoon Kemp? Noiiiceee


Yeh man. Come up some day, I'll take you to the "super bank"
lynxmo0
lynxmo0
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16 Sep 2016 3:49pm
Funny, we have the similar style Underoath.

A few advices:
1) Next steps, try raileys landing blind or wrapped. It's not hard but it requires a lot of patience and commitment. Looks for tutorials online. This is the key to learn handle passes. That is where people usually give up but if you focus hard on it, it will open a door to a lot of new possibilities.
2) Foiling can obviously be a new challenge
3) Get fit. If you want to push it to the next level at our age, there is no choice: exercise if possible every days for 30 min to build strength and flexibility. Handle passes are not just based on technique, it is about strength, agility and flexibility as well. It also help as a prevention for injuries. I'm 36 by the way.

Here is a video that might give you some ideas for your progression.



Have fun!



Underoath
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16 Sep 2016 9:01pm
Now that's a killer vid. How's that stack at 4.15!

We have big winds on Sunday. You just got me amped!
eppo
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17 Sep 2016 7:25am
Agreed great vid man!
glasstraxx
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17 Sep 2016 8:00am
Show off
SibboV1
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19 Sep 2016 10:25am
lynxmo0 said..
3) Get fit.



Underoath - The man knows you well.
djt91184
djt91184
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19 Sep 2016 2:50pm
Haven't posted for a while but when I got lofted and farrked my elbow, my progression slowed after surgery.... the message is be super careful with your kiting
kiteboy dave
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20 Sep 2016 11:48am
I stopped progressing when I had my first child.

Since then it' s been a slow slide backwards, particularly since the 2nd one came along.

It's partly age too, but it's mostly time. You set your whole kids trajectory in their first 5 years.
I can sacrifice pretty much bl00dy all some of my personal enjoyment for that.

I took up skating, as there's no setup/pack up time, and instant gratification, and I could go at night.
Then I smashed my elbow when a front bushing split on me, dunno about you djt but mine's farrked well and truly, 12 screws & 2 straps.

So now I'm mostly SUPing as it's family friendly, wife and kids can all have a go.

I would like to learn to foil this season, half way there after last season, but I will be lucky to get 5 good sessions in.
suniboy21
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20 Sep 2016 8:11pm
when the kids came along
Peahi
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20 Sep 2016 9:12pm
suniboy21 said..
when the kids came along


Not sure I believe the BC excuse I started when my kids were 4 and 6 but progression pretty much stopped after the steep learning curve in the first 1-2 years. Maybe the stoke or novelty wears off a bit?

Now if i learn one new trick or technique a year then I am doing well, but I still get out over 100 times year. Still haven't stopped. When my 3rd was born I went for a kite afterwards to celebrate!
thefacts
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20 Sep 2016 8:41pm
HighzaKite said...
suniboy21 said..
when the kids came along


Not sure I believe the BC excuse I started when my kids were 4 and 6 but progression pretty much stopped after the steep learning curve in the first 1-2 years. Maybe the stoke or novelty wears off a bit?

Now if i learn one new trick or technique a year then I am doing well, but I still get out over 100 times year. Still haven't stopped. When my 3rd was born I went for a kite afterwards to celebrate!

Started just after my first was born and probably kite more than most even after the second was born. Progression slowed after getting the basics down pat but rarely does a day on the water pass by without some slight improvement in some area of the discipline.
Plummet
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21 Sep 2016 2:09am
thefacts said..

HighzaKite said...

suniboy21 said..
when the kids came along



Not sure I believe the BC excuse I started when my kids were 4 and 6 but progression pretty much stopped after the steep learning curve in the first 1-2 years. Maybe the stoke or novelty wears off a bit?

Now if i learn one new trick or technique a year then I am doing well, but I still get out over 100 times year. Still haven't stopped. When my 3rd was born I went for a kite afterwards to celebrate!


Started just after my first was born and probably kite more than most even after the second was born. Progression slowed after getting the basics down pat but rarely does a day on the water pass by without some slight improvement in some area of the discipline.


Of course you are going to progress if you start after having kids. You have zero skill so progression will occur.

BUT. You will not progress as fast as if you didn't have kids. Why? you simply don't have the time to spend at the beach (unless you are a terrible parent)
When there are no kids you can commit a majority of your spare time to that activity. You can lurk at the beach all weekend waiting for conditions, you can drive around aimlessly looking for the best location/wind speed. You can spend hours working on that one thing you want to perfect.

With young kids you are lucky if you can scrape a could of hours to get out. That time may or may not be when conditions are optimal.


So....

If you have had that luxury of time then you progression will slow or stop completely when you have kids and discover how much little time you now have.

Also when you get to as particular level you need to constantly ride at the level to retain the eyethometer or muscle memory for that activity. If you don't you will regress.

So....

Take a highly skill bloke operating at the level that needs constant practice to retain the eyethometer he will most certainly stop progressing or regress after kids come along.
eppo
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21 Sep 2016 6:42am
Was sitting around the dinner table the other day, my 10 yr old daughter (going on 15!!) starts explaining the three kida she's having, their names etc...

the 9 Year old boy says little as usual, then quietly says...' i'm not having kids, they are a pain in the ass and cost too much'

as a proud tear cascaded down my face, I turned bleary eyed to my wife who, if looks could kill, I would have dropped stone dead right there and then...

....well as usual I've made my hopeful progression list for the season, most realistic, some way beyond the risk reward factor given age, commitments, time etc. Will focus on two at a time, spend a quantified amount of time each session...then just ride to have Fun.

What at I am saying is make it very specific so that each session you define exactly what you are going to try.... try and do too much you fail at everything.

sometimes i I even let the lads know what I am trying that session so at least they can have a good old laugh when they see me eat sh1t.
SibboV1
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21 Sep 2016 10:43am
eppo said..
the 9 Year old boy says little as usual, then quietly says...' i'm not having kids, they are a pain in the ass and cost too much'



Give the boy a medal!

Not only do they cost a packet, they take up your time as well.....actually, everyone at my local should have kids, then I'll be the only one out for 15 years. Well, probably for ever, as kites will be about 20 grand by then, so no one will be able to afford it.
eppo
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21 Sep 2016 1:16pm
...and the click bar outlay could be used to buy a small house.

...I keep a tally of all expenses written on a whiteboard for all the see, then do a monthly etc...

You would be horrified like me if you tallied the monthly outlays for two children only.
Plummet
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21 Sep 2016 5:02pm
eppo said...
...and the click bar outlay could be used to buy a small house.

...I keep a tally of all expenses written on a whiteboard for all the see, then do a monthly etc...

You would be horrified like me if you tallied the monthly outlays for two children only.

Why the **** torture yourself? Ps I have 50% more children.
eppo
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21 Sep 2016 6:26pm
Plummet said..

eppo said...
...and the click bar outlay could be used to buy a small house.

...I keep a tally of all expenses written on a whiteboard for all the see, then do a monthly etc...

You would be horrified like me if you tallied the monthly outlays for two children only.


Why the **** torture yourself? Ps I have 50% more children.


We are in a mortgage busting phase (apparently ?), fck it's a long haul, so I wanted quantify over a year what we actually spent down to the dollar, to see where else we could cut to the bone as on paper there wasn't much less we could cut out. Well we could but there is a balance with some lifestyle choices. Having to write down everything you spend for all to see makes you think twice about a purchase. Means no new gear last and this season though. Very depressing
Gazuki
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21 Sep 2016 6:41pm

^^^^^^

I once heard a funny quote once,.. a guy said the thing that scares him most about death and the afterlife would be looking down and seeing his wife sell his toys for what he said he paid for them :)
Niggle1981
Niggle1981
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25 Sep 2016 10:06pm
I need to work harder :p
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