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Created by Foam Foam  > 9 months ago, 13 May 2020
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Foam
Foam

WA

768 posts

13 May 2020 11:19am
A question regarding twintip sizes, it seems to change a bit over time, what is the new normal for sizes you prefer
You could say a 5,8 and 85kg kiter would now generally have a go too of 140x43
cauncy
cauncy

WA

8407 posts

13 May 2020 11:23am
Advanced
Freestyle
Free ride
Lawn mower
Please stipulate
Peahi
Peahi

VIC

1482 posts

13 May 2020 1:56pm
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Foam said..
Freestyle/free ride, straps, advanced


you forgot to include mowing the lawn
sir ROWDY
sir ROWDY

WA

5378 posts

13 May 2020 2:18pm
Need more info.
psychojoe
psychojoe

WA

2239 posts

13 May 2020 4:12pm
I'm a little taller and a little less tubby. I ride a 132. 132 is the premium size. Buy one, and if it doesn't work for you just lose some weight. You're slightly above the BMI.
KiteBud
KiteBud

WA

1606 posts

13 May 2020 4:22pm
As mentioned above it depends on so many factors. Personal preference, riding style, body weight and wind conditions are the main ones in my opinion.

For example: If you only kite in strong winds i.e. more or less 25 knots then a 140cm board would be a bit big. In those conditions, smaller is better but again it's about personal preference, board shape, etc. If you're looking for more grip at higher speeds in choppy conditions to do big jumps for example, closer to 130cm is better.

Generally speaking the more advanced you are the smaller the board you would use.

If you provide a lot more details you'll get much better suggestions

Christian
Foam
Foam

WA

768 posts

13 May 2020 5:37pm
Hi

Thanks for the reply, OK..

Kites 8 11 14
Straps, no boots
Mainly kite at beaches so choppy onshore, but also kite some flat water

I agree that if the conditions were 25knots every session then sure short is good, however in the real world that won't happen.
So 15 to 35 knots

I would suggest to myself 138x42.5 as a example.
135 would be to small at my specs unless as mentioned you were in 25knots every time
cauncy
cauncy

WA

8407 posts

13 May 2020 6:34pm
135x42, decent rocker, some flex in the tips, a nice bit of concave also,
Crazyfly raptor pro
Shinn brown crb4
Duotone team series
Xenon infra
Nobile 50
Axis Vanguard,
wishy
wishy

WA

1501 posts

13 May 2020 7:44pm
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cauncy said..
135x42, decent rocker, some flex in the tips, a nice bit of concave also,
Crazyfly raptor pro
Shinn brown crb4
....


Shinn Brown! Is that one for brown arrows
cauncy
cauncy

WA

8407 posts

13 May 2020 7:51pm
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wishy said..

cauncy said..
135x42, decent rocker, some flex in the tips, a nice bit of concave also,
Crazyfly raptor pro
Shinn brown crb4
....



Shinn Brown! Is that one for brown arrows


Plucking auto smell
Stu101
Stu101

131 posts

14 May 2020 8:16am
Surely if you had worked your way up to advance riding level you would know what size board you like to ride and differences it makes to you?
SaveTheWhales
SaveTheWhales

WA

1900 posts

14 May 2020 8:49am
Because you said Go to = allrounder.
The length width and rocker is ok at 140..
Chop is what you should be concerned with - gives me the $hits after a while.

Remember the King of Air guys are in strong winds with big wide boards.
Contrary to our smaller beliefs..
cauncy
cauncy

WA

8407 posts

14 May 2020 3:25pm
Rocker and flex are your friends in the chop
Greenarrowz
Greenarrowz

NSW

301 posts

14 May 2020 6:48pm
You need more than 1 board.
Then you can select to suit conditions.
You'll progress further faster.

1 board will eventually hold you back and teach you bad habits.
Foam
Foam

WA

768 posts

14 May 2020 7:18pm
Yep possibly, 135 and 140
But I prefer one board
What I was asking was in general in these modern board days vs the old days

A 5,8 85kg rider now seems to be gravitating to 140x43
This seems big to me but I see a lot on this size now.
mazdon
mazdon

1199 posts

14 May 2020 7:33pm
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cauncy said..

wishy said..


cauncy said..
135x42, decent rocker, some flex in the tips, a nice bit of concave also,
Crazyfly raptor pro
Shinn brown crb4
....




Shinn Brown! Is that one for brown arrows



Plucking auto smell


King Brown?
weebitbreezy
weebitbreezy

633 posts

14 May 2020 7:41pm
You could do worse than extrapolate from the size guide here:

shinnworld.com/board-size-selector

At your weight a 42cm width is about right. I like the Shinn Ronson personally. Other boards are also good
Addikt
Addikt

WA

553 posts

22 Jun 2020 10:42pm
I'm 5'11 87-97 kg, used to ride a 132/42 for years but recently changed to a 138/42 just because I wanted a bit more wind range , but found myself sticking with the 138 more while it gets a bit skatety in the upper wind ranges it really does not make that much of a difference but you don't catch your rails as much and if you feel you going over the front of the board it's probably on the small side.!
glasstraxx
glasstraxx

WA

321 posts

23 Jun 2020 3:22am
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Foam said..
Yep possibly, 135 and 140
But I prefer one board
What I was asking was in general in these modern board days vs the old days

A 5,8 85kg rider now seems to be gravitating to 140x43
This seems big to me but I see a lot on this size now.








i tried a few thanks to dans selling skills at Kite Addiction...fitting name... started off (9/12m, 80-90kg 5'11) on 145x45cm learning then went to 132x40cm and stayed around that for a year then went to 132-134x40.5cm or so for next two years (monarch, xcal) , then i ended up going for 138x41.5cm with a bigger rocker (naish dub/stomp) and found that works well in wind over 18kts as the low end suffers unless you have a big kite tugging you along. Its marginal in 15kts with a 12m. But then again depends if you have nice flat water and are unhooking then its prob just ok. Anyways I have now got a carbon board from offgrid sports (138x42cm) - It has a flatter rocker and works better in lower wind but also kept the nice soft landings. So i would definitely say go for a bigger board and try go for carbon as i found it performs way better for airtime style anyways...i reckon you should aim for 134 - max 138cm but try (or buy and trade in, in my case) as many as you can as well :)

Addikt has summarised it fairly well. the bigger board will provide the extra stability as well, just makes everything easier without loosing too much agility
stray
stray

SA

325 posts

26 Jun 2020 8:21pm
You just need to ride man, and feel the stoke. just grab any old board and tap into its particular vibe and froth away.
Plummet
Plummet

4862 posts

27 Jun 2020 2:30am
I'm advanced as far as storm kiting and mutant waving riding is concerned, I'm rolling 145x45 wave mutant.
But hey, i'm a bit of a weirdo and not your average twin tippist.
Foam
Foam

WA

768 posts

28 Jun 2020 8:01am
It seems that a lot of 138 boards are going 43 wide, kind of defeats the purpose
Foam
Foam

WA

768 posts

28 Jun 2020 11:23am
Or rather the question why 42 vs 43 in both 138
2stubborn2quit
2stubborn2quit

WA

169 posts

15 Jul 2020 8:27am
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stray said..
You just need to ride man, and feel the stoke. just grab any old board and tap into its particular vibe and froth away.


Absolutely.... Ride more then you will just know.
A good board helps but nothing like old fashion practice.
ewan kite
ewan kite

VIC

928 posts

15 Jul 2020 2:25pm
More boards are going longer and narrower, I wouldn't say there is a certain length you can go for now. At Naish we have a new board coming out that you would definitely upsize on, say you rode a 138 before now you'd ride a 144 (narrower), 142 before you would ride the 152 and the 138 is super narrow and feels like a 132-4 approx - Benefits include smoother ride, more progressive carving, less spray in eyes, more glide on the water, great board in waves too. Will be able to release more details in the coming days :)
kkiter
kkiter

NSW

452 posts

16 Jul 2020 12:23am
I'm around 87kg and ride a 128 NHP
Chris_M
Chris_M

2132 posts

16 Jul 2020 5:49am
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ewan kite said..
More boards are going longer and narrower, I wouldn't say there is a certain length you can go for now. At Naish we have a new board coming out that you would definitely upsize on, say you rode a 138 before now you'd ride a 144 (narrower), 142 before you would ride the 152 and the 138 is super narrow and feels like a 132-4 approx - Benefits include smoother ride, more progressive carving, less spray in eyes, more glide on the water, great board in waves too. Will be able to release more details in the coming days :)


Sounds interesting Ewan! Naish not bringing back the picklefork is it?
Peahi
Peahi

VIC

1482 posts

16 Jul 2020 9:07pm
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Chris_M said..

ewan kite said..
More boards are going longer and narrower, I wouldn't say there is a certain length you can go for now. At Naish we have a new board coming out that you would definitely upsize on, say you rode a 138 before now you'd ride a 144 (narrower), 142 before you would ride the 152 and the 138 is super narrow and feels like a 132-4 approx - Benefits include smoother ride, more progressive carving, less spray in eyes, more glide on the water, great board in waves too. Will be able to release more details in the coming days :)



Sounds interesting Ewan! Naish not bringing back the picklefork is it?


the bearded hipsters will make it cool again
RayQ
RayQ

WA

636 posts

22 Jul 2020 8:54am
lots of numbers and brands being thrown around here, with out the general understanding of dynamics.

1. you can get away with a shorter board if its flatter in the rocker line.
2. width makes more difference than length (in all respects)
3. a softer board, with a lot of flex will need a lot of power.
4. a skilled rider can make anything work
CH3MTR4IL5
CH3MTR4IL5

WA

943 posts

22 Jul 2020 9:12am
110x42 Underground Wave Tray, best board ever
sir ROWDY
sir ROWDY

WA

5378 posts

26 Jul 2020 9:27am
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Foam said..
A question regarding twintip sizes, it seems to change a bit over time, what is the new normal for sizes you prefer
You could say a 5,8 and 85kg kiter would now generally have a go too of 140x43



I'm around 83kg, 6'1ft.

My most used size is 155cm.

My size for mainly doing airtricks would be a 150cm.

Boards have been too small for too long, it's why a lot of people hate riding a twin tip.
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