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jaymac
jaymac

WA

44 posts

18 Sep 2016 4:03pm



Our sailing in Safety Bay suffered disruptions for nearly a season whilst the council stuffed around dredging a channel from the launching ramp, they then they marked it with a set of buoys more suited to the tanker channel in Cockburn.
Already the sands have moved to fill in the dredging, and left a marker dry. Now the beautifully synchronised red and green flashing lights lights could really lead you astray in the dark.
When will our government and councils realise that with all their powers, they can totally control our lives, but they have no control of the sea
busterwa
busterwa

3782 posts

18 Sep 2016 6:40pm
Night time nav loose your transom and motor Thanks for the Warining
Hopefully no-one get injured. That green ground being a serious point of interest as a free passage?
Have to nav in to 15 m metres on the trail you went out with keep the line to within 3 meters. .
Theres commercial boats atm launching from palm beach They should of dreaded a safe passage out that way? Boggles my mind aswel dude.
Bent street jetty good for small boats If you have a decent size boat launch from perron. port Kennedy boat ramp naffed cause of swell and full of weed accumulation. .

Im flabbergasted to why they would want to dredge that Knowing that in a full w nnw ssw its gona fill with sand? Stupid
Stupid white collar **** gone down to boat ramp cant lauch for **** got stressed and then went to work on Monday morning saying dredge the pond! Bunch of muppets
I couldn't agree with your more.
Tequila !
Tequila !

WA

1028 posts

18 Sep 2016 7:20pm
Someone must have packed a good sales commission for selling oversized markers...

Now another contractor will re collect our taxes to re-dredge or move the mark.

Rocko council rates increased 100% in 5 years. Good work boys.
shi thouse
shi thouse

WA

1154 posts

18 Sep 2016 8:49pm
Took me a while (and a number of reads) to decipher what you had to say there Buster.

I have been trying to source some satellite images of the area with regards to sand movement in that area over the last 30 or so years (without luck). Even in the time that I have been associated with the area (the last 18 years), it has been amazing how much change has occurred to the pond and surrounding land.

From what I understand, at one stage that spit of land was a small sand island and the water flowed between it and the sailing club, plus the sailing club was a lot closer to the water.

I would love to know where it is going to end up (or is it) as it morphs. There is the adjacent sand bar that sits below the water (obviously tide dependent) at around the 1-2 foot mark underwater that the current sand bar is moving towards. Maybe there is some sand movement prediction algorithm out there that has mapped what is going to happen.

Having SUP paddled that area the other day, it has that boat harbour feel to it, in that the water doesn't seem to flush that well from within the pond, it probably also doesn't help that there is the large pipe that feeds road run-off and the like into it.

It is certainly is an interesting "living" land mass, in comparison to other Perth beach areas that seem to be a lot more stable with regards to sand movement.
elmo
elmo

WA

8879 posts

19 Sep 2016 5:51am
Here you go 2002-2012


In the 70's there was no sand bar and a jetty (now under sand) just west of the yacht club
Stuthepirate
Stuthepirate

SA

3591 posts

19 Sep 2016 9:25am
Whats really funny is that the Yacht club has been there longer than the beach in front of it but the council won't let them clear access to launch their boats but are willing to dredge and use heavy machinery for the boat ramps both at bent st and carlisle st.
jaymac
jaymac

WA

44 posts

19 Sep 2016 8:29am
Elmo, that is a great presentation......why did the council not see it prior to $mil works?
busterwa
busterwa

3782 posts

19 Sep 2016 3:30pm
So whats everyone's thoughts on developing point Peron Marina? Disgrace that some developer pays someone a back hander to turn our local spot into a a super rich development. Saddening Them richies should stick to mandurah and woodies .

To much greed. Our wittle penguins our way of life for the last 30 years ****ed by developers for quick buck. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Its a shame theres is absolute no endlessness to the greed.
Tequila !
Tequila !

WA

1028 posts

19 Sep 2016 4:12pm
The Marina is an excuse for a Land Grab exercise simply put.

Subsonic
Subsonic

WA

3384 posts

19 Sep 2016 5:22pm
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Stuthepirate said...
Whats really funny is that the Yacht club has been there longer than the beach in front of it but the council won't let them clear access to launch their boats but are willing to dredge and use heavy machinery for the boat ramps both at bent st and carlisle st.


That really sucks.

I suppose the greenies and bird watchers jumped straight on it, once the little mound of sand grew some plant life.

I remember the yacht club being right on the beach when I was young. Pity there's no allowance for something to be put in place, better than the sand track they currently have.
busterwa
busterwa

3782 posts

19 Sep 2016 5:26pm
Set to become a destination, Mangles Bay will provide local residents and visitors with a five-star marine, tourist, commercial, recreational and residential development. With greater public beach access, room for up to 500 boat pens and a thriving tourist hub with restaurants, cafes and affordable family accommodation, Mangles Bay will have something for everyone.


Cant wait Thanks landcorp/ fill your pockets?
Jolene
Jolene

WA

1622 posts

19 Sep 2016 6:16pm
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busterwa said..
So whats everyone's thoughts on developing point Peron Marina? Disgrace that some developer pays someone a back hander to turn our local spot into a a super rich development. Saddening Them richies should stick to mandurah and woodies .

To much greed. Our wittle penguins our way of life for the last 30 years ****ed by developers for quick buck. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Its a shame theres is absolute no endlessness to the greed.


Just a breakwater to protect the moorings would do nicely, should have been done when the causeway was built... I don't really like the idea
felixdcat
felixdcat

WA

3519 posts

20 Sep 2016 1:14pm
What about the Ocean Reef marina! Our club is going to become a 2nd Hillarys too expensive for us (non posh) sailors to afford! Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr!
can someone go and find some rare snail or nearly extent spider living in the sand dunes there? Maybe a significant aboriginal site?
eppo
eppo

WA

9762 posts

20 Sep 2016 4:08pm
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novetti said..
The Marina is an excuse for a Land Grab exercise simply put.



Yep.
default
default

WA

1255 posts

18 Oct 2016 7:05am
I've heard dredging will be happening again this summer. Plus losing 50m off the end of the sand bar to accommodate the channel
Subsonic
Subsonic

WA

3384 posts

18 Oct 2016 7:15am
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default said...
I've heard dredging will be happening again this summer. Plus losing 50m off the end of the sand bar to accommodate the channel


Yep, I've heard that too.

I wonder how much money they'll spend on dredging it regularly before they let the idea go?
default
default

WA

1255 posts

18 Oct 2016 3:26pm
You mean how much of OUR money they'll spend before..

They really should take the channel in a south east direction away from the jetty, close and parallel to the beach and send boats around the natural weed bank into the sound. Its naturally a bit deeper through there and the dredge would be much shorter and cheaper. It would most likely last longer there.

Any idea when this summer's dredge starts?
Subsonic
Subsonic

WA

3384 posts

19 Oct 2016 11:12am
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Any idea when this summer's dredge starts?


No idea, hopefully it'll be a quicker process than the first time.
goofy
goofy

WA

162 posts

19 Oct 2016 11:43am
Looks like they're starting now, the dredge is at the boat ramp.
Subsonic
Subsonic

WA

3384 posts

19 Oct 2016 12:15pm
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goofy said...
Looks like they're starting now, the dredge is at the boat ramp.



elmo
elmo

WA

8879 posts

19 Oct 2016 12:29pm
Finish's the end of Feb
Subsonic
Subsonic

WA

3384 posts

19 Oct 2016 1:51pm
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elmo said...
Finish's the end of Feb


mineral1
mineral1

WA

4564 posts

19 Oct 2016 2:45pm
How to wipe out an already fragile water sports tourism industry, and small business for this area in one foul swoop. Tourism wrecking 101
Planning people should be removed from positions forth with.
elmo
elmo

WA

8879 posts

19 Oct 2016 2:49pm
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Subsonic said..


elmo said...
Finish's the end of Feb







Please don't take my made up BS as gospel

Slowie will no doubt be out there checking the position and strength of the positioning lines
Subsonic
Subsonic

WA

3384 posts

19 Oct 2016 5:27pm
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elmo said...
Subsonic said..


elmo said...
Finish's the end of Feb







Please don't take my made up BS as gospel

Slowie will no doubt be out there checking the position and strength of the positioning lines


He has a knack for finding static objects in the water to run into I've noticed, and that's without hitting the bottom.


ThePhil
ThePhil

WA

1322 posts

19 Oct 2016 6:25pm
For God's sake, there are heaps of mega boat ramps in Perth/WA with amazing facilities, one tiny perfect spot for windsports and they have to build a boat ramp there.
Nathe
Nathe

WA

439 posts

19 Oct 2016 6:33pm
The boat ramp was there a long time before the puddle formed
elmo
elmo

WA

8879 posts

19 Oct 2016 7:25pm

ThePhil
ThePhil

WA

1322 posts

19 Oct 2016 7:45pm
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Nathe said..
The boat ramp was there a long time before the puddle formed


Probably before Windsurfing was invented, even so they could possibly entertain the idea of building the boat facilities elsewhere given that mother nature is against them.
Bobbin
Bobbin

WA

122 posts

19 Oct 2016 8:01pm
What a bunch of environmental vandals. The slurry they dredge up is not sand, it's stinky, muddy ****e. The areas they pumped that crap onto have only just recovered from there last efforts. They stopped kite rigging on tern island to protect the birds and are now are going to cut the end of it of. The Pelicans, shags, and cormarants all sit on the point by the marker they are going to remove.

Wonder what the visiting euros will make of it all and will they return.

I'm no greenie but this is just so wrong.

All involved should be ashamed of themselves.
Tequila !
Tequila !

WA

1028 posts

19 Oct 2016 8:46pm
What a waste of money.

Seriously with the economy situation and general financials, spending money in something that is not permanent and obviously inefficiently as it presents is a disgrace.

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