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Classic

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boofy said..
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>7am wake up drop a fart
>grab a mouthful af biscuits and a peice of vegemite toast off the kids go back to sleep whilst farting and snoring
> wake up about 11am go through doggie door grab two kilos of flour out of the pantry spread it around the house with his best mate pixie the fox terrier whilst farting all the time
> crash till 3pm snore and fart wake up see what kids have got left in their lunch boxes while farting
>crash till 730pm walk to dishwasher see whats left on the plates fart go back to bed snore and fart till next morning

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Are you sure you're not talking about my missus?

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Gorgo said..

boofy said..
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>7am wake up drop a fart
>grab a mouthful af biscuits and a peice of vegemite toast off the kids go back to sleep whilst farting and snoring
> wake up about 11am go through doggie door grab two kilos of flour out of the pantry spread it around the house with his best mate pixie the fox terrier whilst farting all the time
> crash till 3pm snore and fart wake up see what kids have got left in their lunch boxes while farting
>crash till 730pm walk to dishwasher see whats left on the plates fart go back to bed snore and fart till next morning

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Are you sure you're not talking about my missus?

Ha ha bloody funny

VB man if I was going to give you one tip on staffy ownership mate it would be to socialise him from day one take him everywhere with you dont try and turn him into a balls to the walls type dog he will handle himself if need be you will have a mate for life

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SpaceCoyote said..
I don't know how quickly staffies develop, but when I got my golden retriever pup I did a bit of research and in general people recommended not to get him desexed till around 12 months. First year is quite important as far as development of your pup goes and he needs the hormones to develop properly.

I can understand desexing a pit-fighting breed to calm them down but a Golden Retriever? They are already overly calm, they don't jump fences, unwanted reproduction is out of the question.

We'd had our previous whippet 6 years before I finally relented and let an insistent vet desex him while he was under the knife for another condition. I'd resisted their suggestions for years. If anything it made him worse, he became even crankier. Don't blame him. And it didn't drop his non-existent reproductive rate either. Found another vet.

Why? Council laws, couldn't register him unless desexed. If it was up to me he would have kept his nuts.

Also not sure about calm. Great dogs, super friendly, but calm... no way :D

Veebs,

Whilst he's out cold, don't forget to get him microchipped as well. Pretty handy if he jumps the fence or goes wandering and gets handed in.

I'm not sure how it works over there but here its loads cheaper to register a desexed dog so perhaps wait until he's done to get him registered. The money you save can go towards toys / decent food / heartworm and flea treatments etc

A funny staffy story for you my last staffy whos name was Ollie jumped out of the car at a truckstop on our way down the coast for a pee where he discovered a nappy full of babyshiz that some dirty bogan had thrown on the side of the road. Well Ollie ate most of it and got it all over his snout before he jumped back in the back of the car with the kids spreading his licks and love for us all round the car I never looked at him the same after that and lost a bit of love for him

Post a pic of him when you get a chance

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boofy said..
Get him desexed mate I have had three staffies all purebred over the last thirty years all males and all desexed I dont understand as far as wanting a balls to the wall confident dog you should have got a Jack Russell terrier
A typical day for my staffy entails

>7am wake up drop a fart
>grab a mouthful af biscuits and a peice of vegemite toast off the kids go back to sleep whilst farting and snoring
> wake up about 11am go through doggie door grab two kilos of flour out of the pantry spread it around the house with his best mate pixie the fox terrier whilst farting all the time
> crash till 3pm snore and fart wake up see what kids have got left in their lunch boxes while farting
>crash till 730pm walk to dishwasher see whats left on the plates fart go back to bed snore and fart till next morning

staffies dont make good guard dogs mate we rely on our little foxy to protect the house

No naked flames allowed at Boofys house by the sounds......

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boofy said..
VB man if I was going to give you one tip on staffy ownership mate it would be to socialise him from day one take him everywhere with you dont try and turn him into a balls to the walls type dog he will handle himself if need be you will have a mate for life

Once again, thanks folks

Breeder microchiped him. Sorry to all the rescue squad, but I really wanted to know what I was getting

Vet lady gave me the number yesterday

4 days in and sits, stays, stays at doors, still struggling a little when the food bowl is comin down but we are workin on it (friggen intelligent mutts)

Still workin on clothesline and shoe training but progress is looking great, oh and house trained after three days

Still cant take him out for another 9 days and it's killing me, tho I'm introducing him to sounds like the lawnmower man nextdoor etc so he doesn't become a barker

I apologise to all those out there named Barker

Specialist say's to not even think of throwing a trowel around for the next 6 months, and that's fine with me, so me and the mutt will be getting some quality time together

BTW does anyone now a good skin repair specialist in Perth ? as my hands and forearms are bleeding quite profusely from letting him have his way a little too much

Ahh, he's nuthin special

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Ahh, he's nuthin special

You know the evil eyes are supposed to be red...

awesome looking dog. Train him well and he'll be the most awesome dog ever.

Find a good dig training company (preferably one that's mot just about treats) and you'll never look back

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VB MAN said...
4 days in and sits, stays, stays at doors, still struggling a little when the food bowl is comin down but we are workin on it

I see this every day... at 2-4 months old most puppies are generally pretty well behaved. A bit bitey but they'll generally grow out of it.

About 6 months old they start to really push the boundaries. My poor parents replaced retic, filled in dozens of holes, replaced damaged plants and even some outdoor furniture. That's after spending $100 on a bag of food when i was skint.

Got a bunch of over ripe oranges out the back, so whenever he starts to dig, I bust open an orange, squeeze the juice around the outside and dump the skin/pulp in the hole

Sends him elsewhere, but in time he'll get the message

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Beaglebuddy said...
Staffie, pitbull, same thing.

Baaahahhahhahahahhaha.
Oh the lack of intelligence is unimaginable.

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VB MAN said..

Breeder microchiped him. Sorry to all the rescue squad, but I really wanted to know what I was getting

That's how I used to think too. But it's really not an issue and I hope more of us can see that in future. There are heaps of purebred dogs needing homes - lots of people buy from breeders then change their minds when it gets too hard. There's also lots of puppies just ready to be trained. There's heaps of dogs that have been in foster care for weeks or months, meaning the foster carer can give you the full run down on personality and any issues requiring further training. Most rescue organisations will offer a two week trial so you can see if you and the dog are compatible. For cross breeds, a bit of research into the contributing breeds gives you a fair heads up. And at the end of the day, as so many people have already said, any dog is largely a product of its owners.

You've got yourself a cutey there VB.

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Beaglebuddy said...
Staffie, pitbull, same thing.

You obviously don't know what you're talking about.

English Staffys are completely different to pitbulls.

And for the record... There are no dangerous dogs... just dangerous owners. Train your dog properly and it won't be dangerous.

Having said that... it is still your responsibility to keep your dog under effective control at all times. That's something most dog owners don't understand.

The breeds are close cousins, pits evolved from staffies. They are interbred and look very similar. Clearly you don't understand dog behavior. All dogs are working animals bred for specific tasks and they will do these tasks inherently without being specifically trained to do it, it's in their DNA and they are most happy and content when doing their tasks. For example my beagles chase and without game to chase they chase each other, retrievers fetch and like the water, herding breeds will herd people and children, pointers point, rat dogs get rats, guard dogs guard and staffies and pitbulls were bred to fight bulls and other dogs. For the most part they aren't used for that anymore but deep down in their genes it's still there, that's why it's usually a small child that is attacked because the dog sees it run by and reacts.
The capabilities of these dogs are too much, they are too dangerous, the statistics don't lie. Another type of dog may nip or barely break the skin but a staffie or pit will maul and latch on and not let go for anything. Yes the owners can be responsible for poor training but these dogs still attack and kill despite proper training.

Beagle you've only got half what Staffys were bred for.

the other thing they were bred for is child minding. Ever seen a dog look after a child? My Staffy does. He saved a 2 year old from running in front of a train while the kid's mother tottered around a wet oval in stilettos (bloody stupid woman).

Having said that I would NEVER leave a dog of ANY breed unsupervised with a child under ten years old. You don't know what the child might do (and yes my dog is better behaved than most children).

Duty of care my friend...

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Mahanumah said..

Beaglebuddy said...
Staffie, pitbull, same thing.

You obviously don't know what you're talking about.

English Staffys are completely different to pitbulls.

And for the record... There are no dangerous dogs... just dangerous owners. Train your dog properly and it won't be dangerous.

Having said that... it is still your responsibility to keep your dog under effective control at all times. That's something most dog owners don't understand.

The breeds are close cousins, pits evolved from staffies.

No they're not. American Staffordshire Terriers descended from the American Pit Bull Terrier. They are the only breed to descend from the American Pit Bull Terrier. Staffordshire Bull Terriers are a totally different breed to the American Staffordshire Terrier. 'Pit Bull' is not even a breed. It's a term that is generically used to refer to 'scary dogs' and can include Bull Terriers, Bull Mastiffs, Bull Dogs and others, all of which were used in pit fighting along with cross breeds. Most were NOT bred for pit fighting like the American Pit Bull Terrier - they just had the misfortune of being used in pit fighting. Most (including the Bulldog) were actually bred for bull baiting - another top sport practised in England prior to the 1800s.

This doesn't do a bad job of explaining the history http://www.bulldoginformation.com/bull-and-terrier-breeds.html.

This doesn't do a bad job of explaining the issues and ignorance that staffies are faced with www.theage.com.au/victoria/the-war-on-terrier-perfect-pet-or-killing-machine-20111001-1l331.html.

Are Beagles all the same as Bassets and Foxhounds Beagleman? Their ears are the same and they can be the same colour?

Interesting stats for you Beagleman - Council Reports of Dog Attacks in NSW 2011/12 http://www.dlg.nsw.gov.au/dlg/dlghome/documents/Information/Council%20Reports%20of%20Dog%20Attacks%20in%20NSW%202011-12.pdf.

Page 18 (Table 9) - Attacks by breed.
Pure-breeds accounted for 51% of attacks which is perhaps interesting in light of the perception of cross breeds being unpredictable.

Page 19 (Table 10) - Pure-breed attacks
Ranking of number of attacks per hundred registered dogs
Number 1 - Pit Bull Terrier
Number 5 - American Staffordshire Terrier
Number 20 - Staffordshire Bull Terrier

Page 23 (Table 11) - Cross-breed attacks
Ranking of number of attacks per hundred registered dogs
Number 5 - Pit Bull Terrier
Number 17 - American Staffordshire Terrier
Number 21 - Staffordshire Bull Terrier

More interesting stuff in here from the Australian Veterinary Association, including the fact that they do not support breed specific legislation as a means to address dog attacks. www.ava.com.au/sites/default/files/AVA_website/pdfs/Dangerous%20dogs%20-%20a%20sensible%20solution%20FINAL.pdf

This study also concludes ALL dogs will bite, and Chihuahuas are most likely to bite vets!! Even in the US, pit bulls were not the most common dog attack culprits. veterinarynews.dvm360.com/study-chihuahuas-bite-vets-most-lhaso-apsos-inflict-worst-injuries.

I am learning in all this that leaving any dog alone with children seems to be the greatest risk factor. This sums that up
www.smh.com.au/comment/why-the-potential-killer-in-your-home-is-always-family-dog-20130806-2rdbx.html.

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Mahanumah said...

Having said that I would NEVER leave a dog of ANY breed unsupervised with a child under ten years old. You don't know what the child might do (and yes my dog is better behaved than most children).

Just to reiterate the most important thing that dog owners need to think about. Not doing this is asking for trouble regardless of the breed.

^^ Agree with that.

A big problem also is too many people have no idea how to read dog body language let alone know the basic do's and don'ts. Classic example: my german shepherd cross was sitting next to me at a gathering when a woman carrying a baby raced toward us, bent over and shoved the kid in my dog's face (literally, the baby's hand sunk into fur) and said something like "ooh, look at the nice doggy".

Lucky she is such a nice doggy, ffs, because that could easily have turned nasty. Turns out the kid wasn't even hers either...

I reckon it should be compulsory to have canine classes taught at schools. Open to parents as well, god knows plenty of adults have no clue. Rule # 1. Don't EVER shove a baby into an unknown dog's face. Rule # 2. Don't EVER shove a baby into ANY dog's face...

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Mahanumah said..

Find a good dig training company

someone actually gets PAID to teach dogs how to dig.................

hells bells, talk about easy money


stephen

^^^

Funny

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needsalt said..
Interesting stats for you Beagleman - Council Reports of Dog Attacks in NSW 2011/12 http://www.dlg.nsw.gov.au/dlg/dlghome/documents/Information/Council%20Reports%20of%20Dog%20Attacks%20in%20NSW%202011-12.pdf.

Page 18 (Table 9) - Attacks by breed.
Pure-breeds accounted for 51% of attacks which is perhaps interesting in light of the perception of cross breeds being unpredictable.

Page 19 (Table 10) - Pure-breed attacks
Ranking of number of attacks per hundred registered dogs
Number 1 - Pit Bull Terrier
Number 5 - American Staffordshire Terrier
Number 20 - Staffordshire Bull Terrier

Page 23 (Table 11) - Cross-breed attacks
Ranking of number of attacks per hundred registered dogs
Number 5 - Pit Bull Terrier
Number 17 - American Staffordshire Terrier
Number 21 - Staffordshire Bull Terrier

More interesting stuff in here from the Australian Veterinary Association, including the fact that they do not support breed specific legislation as a means to address dog attacks. www.ava.com.au/sites/default/files/AVA_website/pdfs/Dangerous%20dogs%20-%20a%20sensible%20solution%20FINAL.pdf

This study also concludes ALL dogs will bite, and Chihuahuas are most likely to bite vets!! Even in the US, pit bulls were not the most common dog attack culprits. veterinarynews.dvm360.com/study-chihuahuas-bite-vets-most-lhaso-apsos-inflict-worst-injuries.

I am learning in all this that leaving any dog alone with children seems to be the greatest risk factor. This sums that up
www.smh.com.au/comment/why-the-potential-killer-in-your-home-is-always-family-dog-20130806-2rdbx.html.

These are raw stats, they would be more meaningful if weighted by the damage done in each attack. The breeds with massive heads and a never-let-go tendency might move further up the list, to the front of the likes of nippy cattle dogs.

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Ian K said..

These are raw stats, they would be more meaningful if weighted by the damage done in each attack. The breeds with massive heads and a never-let-go tendency might move further up the list, to the front of the likes of nippy cattle dogs.

Yep - the stats are what I said they are 'ranking of number of attacks per hundred registered dogs'. They do not consider damage. Doesn't mean they're not meaningful. Still confirms what so many people have said - all dogs bite. Up to owners to minimise this. And 'the breeds with massive heads' are not necessarily the most aggressive as everyone assumes.

I mostly included the stats to demonstrate the difference between American Pit Bull Terriers, Amstaffs and Staffordshire Bull Terriers. They are not the same dogs as has been suggested in this thread.

indeed, Pitbulls are much nicer :-)

The other thing that would help in those stats is the owner's response after the attack. How many said "I don't know what came over him, he's normally so placid, never even looked like biting someone up until now" ?

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Ian K said..
The other thing that would help in those stats is the owner's response after the attack. How many said "I don't know what came over him, he's normally so placid, never even looked like biting someone up until now" ?

Well, there's no need to worry about that. Even the 'my dog is so tough it will eat you children' type of owner is still going to say "it would never hurt a fly and the people must have done something to rile it". No one is going to admit their dog is a problem.

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seanhogan said..
indeed, Pitbulls are much nicer :-)

Thank You

hey,Ive had Staffies for over 30 years and the one I have now has not been desexed and he has never shown any aggression to other dogs,the only problem is that other dogs off their leash sense he might be a threat and get their hackles up and want to have a go,luckily he just dodges their lunge and keeps walking with me,seems like they can tell the difference as they don't harass neutered dogs on the beach.The staffy i had previously who lived to 17 years didn't mind a biff mainly from being overprotective of me and my family, he was desexed and it didn't change him so I think it also depends on the temperament and genes of the dog just like people,my sister had a poodle years ago and it was a feral voodoo child from hell.If you want to be safe Id suggest getting him nutted covers all bases.