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bjw said..Macroscien said..One day in the future war veterans
will not be celebrated as heroes

but hidings from public
as criminals !!
What the moral difference it made for individual hired by mafia boss or government
if the target is the same?? Innocents people ??
Some of the stupidest things written on this forum since Street SUP was a category.
First natural reflex to attack seems to be similar nasty response.
But I found recently much more fulfilling polite treatment or ignoring offender.
In fact one may need to rich this higher level of self control and instead of smearing opponent with
meaningless :idiots, debit etc rather to withdraw those from own vocabulary completely,.
This obviously lead to next accusation of arrogance and superiority complex.
Yep,
Nobody is perfect.
Coming back to veterans- they should be rather treated as a victims of the systems.
Wars aren't proclaimed by nation as whole but mere politician official at the helm temporary.
Nobody ever did referendum in such important matter as participating or initiating the war with another country.
Most people don't want to die. Politicians give our victims or their families medals or something in gratification,
but in higher perspective every war ever carried on Earth could and should be avoided in first place.
I doubt that anybody could come with single example when the war was needed in whole Earth history.
But on another hand this subject of those victims of the war - veterans- are used again to attack those against war, like me.
There is no need for victim on either side, public or military.
Even those veterans the survived , becomes victims, need to live with their memories. So my criticism is not on military personnel as such but a system that require human sacrifice.
From moral perspective nobody could claim that given soldier is now free of any guilt because his minister of war ask him to go and kill other people, and he just did, what was asked for.
Obviously everybody here will instantly come with claim that if that is your minister to send your soldiers to kill overseas , that is perfectly fine, But when another country minister send their soldier to kill you and your family, that is bad.