Running low on the greens Love the taste of dead animals Allways frothin out mouth for a good steak. Pls convert me. looks a bit under cooked Like my baby cows..

what's that little round red thing near the top, I'm not familiar with it.

www.whimn.com.au/live/food/the-vegan-blogger-world-is-quietly-imploding-on-itself-so-strap-yourself-in/news-story/e7fa9d821f4b4466b76538bbcc26bcad?nk=80754aa5226f3cebad35cdfea20f78fd-1584700354

Buster you must be stoked now that your Grinder profile matches your Seabreeze profile,.. they both state how frothing you are to get a mouthful of meat.

Vegans are now slightly less popular than Hitler atm.

They are really just grumpy insecure people who are upset KFC no longer does all you can eat.

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busterwa said..
Running low on the greens Love the taste of dead animals Allways frothin out mouth for a good steak. Pls convert me. looks a bit under cooked Like my baby cows..

Looks like you overcooked your steaks sir but good effort.

Increased libido compared to mixed grill counterparts

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HotBodMon said..
Increased libido compared to mixed grill counterparts

1. Are you gay
2. What are they injecting besides fake smiles

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djt91184 said..

HotBodMon said..
Increased libido compared to mixed grill counterparts

1. Are you gay
2. What are they injecting besides fake smiles

1. I have woken with $20 in my pocket many times , so perhaps
2. Interesting point , birth control pill is not vegan so I wonder if slammin gear is ?

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HotBodMon said..

djt91184 said..

HotBodMon said..
Increased libido compared to mixed grill counterparts

1. Are you gay
2. What are they injecting besides fake smiles

1. I have woken with $20 in my pocket many times , so perhaps
2. Interesting point , birth control pill is not vegan so I wonder if slammin gear is ?

no way they got that big on a diet of lettuce and carrots. They would have had to eaten a huge amount of protein to get to that size even with the obvious roid use. Everyone else gets that protein from chicken or whey protein, so how many mung beans are they eating to get the same. I call BS unless they got that size before becoming a vegan.

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busterwa said..
Allways frothin out mouth for a good steak.

Mate you should get checked for rabies.

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BiterKoi said..

HotBodMon said..

djt91184 said..

HotBodMon said..
Increased libido compared to mixed grill counterparts

1. Are you gay
2. What are they injecting besides fake smiles

1. I have woken with $20 in my pocket many times , so perhaps
2. Interesting point , birth control pill is not vegan so I wonder if slammin gear is ?

no way they got that big on a diet of lettuce and carrots. They would have had to eaten a huge amount of protein to get to that size even with the obvious roid use. Everyone else gets that protein from chicken or whey protein, so how many mung beans are they eating to get the same. I call BS unless they got that size before becoming a vegan.

We all get about 70-80 gm no matter if your'e a healthy vegan or a meat eater when in reality we only need 40

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rockmagnet said..

BiterKoi said..

HotBodMon said..

djt91184 said..

HotBodMon said..
Increased libido compared to mixed grill counterparts

1. Are you gay
2. What are they injecting besides fake smiles

1. I have woken with $20 in my pocket many times , so perhaps
2. Interesting point , birth control pill is not vegan so I wonder if slammin gear is ?

no way they got that big on a diet of lettuce and carrots. They would have had to eaten a huge amount of protein to get to that size even with the obvious roid use. Everyone else gets that protein from chicken or whey protein, so how many mung beans are they eating to get the same. I call BS unless they got that size before becoming a vegan.

We all get about 70-80 gm no matter if your'e a healthy vegan or a meat eater when in reality we only need 40

By 'we all get about 70-80 gm', are you one of the people in that picture? I think if you told a body builder that they would get that way with 80 grams of protein they would just laugh in your face. You don't magically take a pill and end up like those guys without a gigantic intake of protein.

To get their body fat down they would also have to eat lean protein, so is that possible as a Vegan? There was a guy I used to work with that ate chicken and broccoli for lunch every day, and it wasn't the broccoli that was letting him bulk up.

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FormulaNova said..

rockmagnet said..

BiterKoi said..

HotBodMon said..

djt91184 said..

HotBodMon said..
Increased libido compared to mixed grill counterparts

1. Are you gay
2. What are they injecting besides fake smiles

1. I have woken with $20 in my pocket many times , so perhaps
2. Interesting point , birth control pill is not vegan so I wonder if slammin gear is ?

no way they got that big on a diet of lettuce and carrots. They would have had to eaten a huge amount of protein to get to that size even with the obvious roid use. Everyone else gets that protein from chicken or whey protein, so how many mung beans are they eating to get the same. I call BS unless they got that size before becoming a vegan.

We all get about 70-80 gm no matter if your'e a healthy vegan or a meat eater when in reality we only need 40

By 'we all get about 70-80 gm', are you one of the people in that picture? I think if you told a body builder that they would get that way with 80 grams of protein they would just laugh in your face. You don't magically take a pill and end up like those guys without a gigantic intake of protein.

To get their body fat down they would also have to eat lean protein, so is that possible as a Vegan? There was a guy I used to work with that ate chicken and broccoli for lunch every day, and it wasn't the broccoli that was letting him bulk up.

I used to Bench press 140kg leg press 460 , lat pull down the whole stack, There's more, and I did this as a vegetarian. So tell me what did you do.

Sure. Gorillas eat plants. Whales and dolphins eat only meat. Humans eat both plants and meat. That's natural. Vegetarian humans is not really "natural", it's a conscious choice we make because we can break from evolutionary traits.

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juicyfruit said..
Sure. Gorillas eat plants. Whales eat only meat. Humans eat both plants and meat. That's natural. Vegetarian humans is not natural, it's a conscious choice.

Actually being a vegetarian is natural, humans don't require meat to survive, that is a conscious choice.

Oh is it now.....sure let's throw a million years of evolution out the window and rewrite our understanding of human history.

Actually let's keep it more compact and focus on the last 50,000 years in Australia.

Edit: modern vegetarian and vegan diets only work because we can artificially load up on essentials like B12. In our natural tribal and primordial evolutionary stage before modern food production, trying to be vegetarian would have killed us quickly through a lack of essential nutrients. Tribal humans understood this very well, and our own Aboriginal Australian knows very well how important food was, including treating food as medicinal. Shellfish, meat and grubs for example was a major source of B12.

Explain how an Aboriginal Australia would get Vitamin B12 in a "natural" pre-European environment without any animal products.

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Oh is it now.....sure let's throw a million years of evolution out the window and rewrite our understanding of human history.

Actually let's keep it more compact and focus on the last 50,000 years in Australia.

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Sure, do your best, show me that humans can't survive without meat.

I just explained, through a modern artificially pumped up "fortified" foods production system. How else do you get things like Vitamin B12 - especially if vegan?

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rockmagnet said..

FormulaNova said..

rockmagnet said..

BiterKoi said..

HotBodMon said..

djt91184 said..

HotBodMon said..
Increased libido compared to mixed grill counterparts

1. Are you gay
2. What are they injecting besides fake smiles

1. I have woken with $20 in my pocket many times , so perhaps
2. Interesting point , birth control pill is not vegan so I wonder if slammin gear is ?

no way they got that big on a diet of lettuce and carrots. They would have had to eaten a huge amount of protein to get to that size even with the obvious roid use. Everyone else gets that protein from chicken or whey protein, so how many mung beans are they eating to get the same. I call BS unless they got that size before becoming a vegan.

We all get about 70-80 gm no matter if your'e a healthy vegan or a meat eater when in reality we only need 40

By 'we all get about 70-80 gm', are you one of the people in that picture? I think if you told a body builder that they would get that way with 80 grams of protein they would just laugh in your face. You don't magically take a pill and end up like those guys without a gigantic intake of protein.

To get their body fat down they would also have to eat lean protein, so is that possible as a Vegan? There was a guy I used to work with that ate chicken and broccoli for lunch every day, and it wasn't the broccoli that was letting him bulk up.

I used to Bench press 140kg leg press 460 , lat pull down the whole stack, There's more, and I did this as a vegetarian. So tell me what did you do.

Me, I used to laugh when people would sit down at the same leg extension machine, look at me, look at the stack and give it a try. Nope, let it down a few pounds. Nope, let it down a few more. Nope, let it down a lot more... yeah that's it. I never got into it enough to remember what the numbers were. It was for me, not for telling anyone else how good I am.

What's your point? I never looked as muscly as those guys, and I never looked cut like that either. Have you? i expect being a vegetarian or vegan would allow you to get cut like that but I really don't think you could have bulked up like that as a vegan. Where would you get that level of protein without any animal products?

You said you did this as a vegetarian? Did you load up on whey protein? Eggs? If so, what would you have replaced those with if you were vegan? I think you are arguing a point that no one is claiming.

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FormulaNova said..I think you are arguing a point that no one is claiming.

rockmagnet said..

FormulaNova said..

rockmagnet said..

BiterKoi said..

HotBodMon said..

djt91184 said..

HotBodMon said..
Increased libido compared to mixed grill counterparts

1. Are you gay
2. What are they injecting besides fake smiles

1. I have woken with $20 in my pocket many times , so perhaps
2. Interesting point , birth control pill is not vegan so I wonder if slammin gear is ?

no way they got that big on a diet of lettuce and carrots. They would have had to eaten a huge amount of protein to get to that size even with the obvious roid use. Everyone else gets that protein from chicken or whey protein, so how many mung beans are they eating to get the same. I call BS unless they got that size before becoming a vegan.

We all get about 70-80 gm no matter if your'e a healthy vegan or a meat eater when in reality we only need 40

By 'we all get about 70-80 gm', are you one of the people in that picture? I think if you told a body builder that they would get that way with 80 grams of protein they would just laugh in your face. You don't magically take a pill and end up like those guys without a gigantic intake of protein.

To get their body fat down they would also have to eat lean protein, so is that possible as a Vegan? There was a guy I used to work with that ate chicken and broccoli for lunch every day, and it wasn't the broccoli that was letting him bulk up.

I used to Bench press 140kg leg press 460 , lat pull down the whole stack, There's more, and I did this as a vegetarian. So tell me what did you do.

Me, I used to laugh when people would sit down at the same leg extension machine, look at me, look at the stack and give it a try. Nope, let it down a few pounds. Nope, let it down a few more. Nope, let it down a lot more... yeah that's it. I never got into it enough to remember what the numbers were. It was for me, not for telling anyone else how good I am.

What's your point? I never looked as muscly as those guys, and I never looked cut like that either. Have you? i expect being a vegetarian or vegan would allow you to get cut like that but I really don't think you could have bulked up like that as a vegan. Where would you get that level of protein without any animal products?

You said you did this as a vegetarian? Did you load up on whey protein? Eggs? If so, what would you have replaced those with if you were vegan? I think you are arguing a point that no one is claiming.

Isn't that what most vegans do?

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juicyfruit said..
I just explained, through a modern artificially pumped up "fortified" foods production system. How else do you get things like Vitamin B12.

You get it from the same place that livestock gets it from today, supplements.

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Rex said..You get it from the same place that livestock gets it from today, supplements.

juicyfruit said..
I just explained, through a modern artificially pumped up "fortified" foods production system. How else do you get things like Vitamin B12.

Exactly. So that demonstrates my point. Being vegan is not natural, it's a choice to eat artificially produced supplements and fortified foods to survive.

Gee, and it only took one response to prove...

Unless of course....you're going to try and prove you can survive without vitamin B12....

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juicyfruit said..

Rex said..You get it from the same place that livestock gets it from today, supplements.

juicyfruit said..
I just explained, through a modern artificially pumped up "fortified" foods production system. How else do you get things like Vitamin B12.

Exactly. So that demonstrates my point. Being vegan is not natural, it's a choice to eat artificially produced supplements and fortified foods to survive.

Gee, and it only took one response to prove...

Unless of course....you're going to try and prove you can survive without vitamin B12....

Vegetarians seam to be surviving very well, we weren't discussing vegans, although they seam to be surviving as well, that's natural.

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juicyfruit said..
Sure. Gorillas eat plants. Whales and dolphins eat only meat. Humans eat both plants and meat. That's natural. Vegetarian humans is not really "natural", it's a conscious choice we make because we can break from evolutionary traits.

Going by that argument, being gay isn't natural then either, no matter how juicy your fruit may be

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theDoctor said..

juicyfruit said..
Sure. Gorillas eat plants. Whales and dolphins eat only meat. Humans eat both plants and meat. That's natural. Vegetarian humans is not really "natural", it's a conscious choice we make because we can break from evolutionary traits.

Going by that argument, being gay isn't natural then either, no matter how juicy your fruit may be

Tell that to the chimpanzees.

Mushrooms contain bio-available B12
I don't think were steering buster on the right path for vegan righteousness
Has anyone actually given it a go ?
The closest I came to death was living with 4 passionate vegetarians who tried to convert me - lasted only 3 weeks before I jumped in the car and flew to McCrap for salvation, by far the best quarter pounder I'd ever eaten.

There is definitely the psychological humbleness of eating raw plant based food that's free from "added stuff" , It just has to be better !!
No wonder they are so smug - still no excuse for throwing it in our face

Our local raging "vegan from birth" makes some SERIOUSLY great tasting raw food -
Her buisness is the 'Peach and the Bear' and she's killing it

It must be fattening with all that coconut

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FormulaNova said..

rockmagnet said..

FormulaNova said..

rockmagnet said..

BiterKoi said..

HotBodMon said..

djt91184 said..

HotBodMon said..
Increased libido compared to mixed grill counterparts

1. Are you gay
2. What are they injecting besides fake smiles

1. I have woken with $20 in my pocket many times , so perhaps
2. Interesting point , birth control pill is not vegan so I wonder if slammin gear is ?

no way they got that big on a diet of lettuce and carrots. They would have had to eaten a huge amount of protein to get to that size even with the obvious roid use. Everyone else gets that protein from chicken or whey protein, so how many mung beans are they eating to get the same. I call BS unless they got that size before becoming a vegan.

We all get about 70-80 gm no matter if your'e a healthy vegan or a meat eater when in reality we only need 40

By 'we all get about 70-80 gm', are you one of the people in that picture? I think if you told a body builder that they would get that way with 80 grams of protein they would just laugh in your face. You don't magically take a pill and end up like those guys without a gigantic intake of protein.

To get their body fat down they would also have to eat lean protein, so is that possible as a Vegan? There was a guy I used to work with that ate chicken and broccoli for lunch every day, and it wasn't the broccoli that was letting him bulk up.

I used to Bench press 140kg leg press 460 , lat pull down the whole stack, There's more, and I did this as a vegetarian. So tell me what did you do.

Me, I used to laugh when people would sit down at the same leg extension machine, look at me, look at the stack and give it a try. Nope, let it down a few pounds. Nope, let it down a few more. Nope, let it down a lot more... yeah that's it. I never got into it enough to remember what the numbers were. It was for me, not for telling anyone else how good I am.

What's your point? I never looked as muscly as those guys, and I never looked cut like that either. Have you? i expect being a vegetarian or vegan would allow you to get cut like that but I really don't think you could have bulked up like that as a vegan. Where would you get that level of protein without any animal products?

You said you did this as a vegetarian? Did you load up on whey protein? Eggs? If so, what would you have replaced those with if you were vegan? I think you are arguing a point that no one is claiming.

Getting cut like that is usually for competition and they cut down a lot on their intake to reduce as much body fat as possible.
So no I never got cut like that but I did get big but sad to say that's mostly gone now. And no I didn't bulk up with protein powder or eggs.I just ate a normal vegetarian diet with occasional chicken or fish and maybe a couple of eggs a week.

for those with dairy intolerance like myself - this stuff mixes well and tastes fine with a higher protein rating than whey.
Frig'n expenso --- but no toxic room vacating farts is a big plus+

Vegan pffft

Most of their food is grown with some form of animal carcass/manure ,even organic farming....unless it is from a veganic farm which are few and far between to feed all these righteous sheep