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myscreenname said..

FormulaNova wrote..
Six paragraphs of rubbish.

Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander heritage is personal to the individual. You don't need to prove that you are an Indigenous Australian.

www.unimelb.edu.au/voice/faqs/identity-question/what-criteria-is-used-to-determine-a-persons-aboriginality

University of Melbourne might be happy enough with a persons own assessment of their heritage, but it turns out you need a bit more than that as far as the government is concerned (not much more though.).



www.servicesaustralia.gov.au/ra010

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Mr Milk said..

It is quite a common mistake to think that fair skin = not very aboriginal. My sister's children are both 50%. The boy tans instantly, but the girl is a six foot athletic blonde. You'd never pick her for black if you didn't know.
Both of them are making names for themselves in film, music and now moving into politics. I don't know if that is due to Steiner schools early or hybrid vigour

Why is it a 'common mistake'? From the information you have provided, there is no indication about the background of these children. Is the "50%" a 50% mix of pure blood aboriginal and 50% completely non-aboriginal? I have no way of knowing, but I doubt it. More likely 50% of a mix of aboriginal and caucasian and 50% of non-aboriginal.

Hybrid vigour? These are humans with very little differentiation other than skin colour and other minor variations. I think you are way off-base there. They are just kids that are doing well.

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Subsonic said..
University of Melbourne might be happy enough with a persons own assessment of their heritage, but it turns out you need a bit more than that as far as the government is concerned (not much more though.).

www.servicesaustralia.gov.au/ra010

Nah, myscreenname is so intent on being right that he hasn't bothered to even look at it. He has done a search, found the most simplistic thing he could, ignored the rest and then propped it up to try and show he is right.

If only he had bothered to click the link he would have seen that all three requirements apply. He probably did and then backtracked because he didn't want to be 'wrong'. He seems to have a problem with getting things wrong. Some people are like that.

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Government agencies and community organisations usually accept three 'working criteria' as confirmation of Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander heritage. These are:

being of Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander descent
identifying as an Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander person
being accepted as such by the community in which you live, or formerly lived.

All of these things must apply. The way you look or how you live are not requirements."

From memory, you actually need a letter of confirmation from an aboriginal group that you are accepted and known as being an aboriginal within the community.

I think it is a common belief that people can just self-identify as aboriginal and get benefits or uni places, It's not true.

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myscreenname said..
Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander heritage is personal to the individual. You don't need to prove that you are an Indigenous Australian.

www.unimelb.edu.au/voice/faqs/identity-question/what-criteria-is-used-to-determine-a-persons-aboriginality

I am surprised you haven't logged in as your alter-ego KiteBoy Dave and then claimed you/he were/are self-identifying as aboriginal, claimed you are being discriminated against, claim racism, and then green-thumbed yourself.

It is a testament to your personality that you showed a link, showed the very first sentence from that link, and somehow (accidentally?) left out the very next/second sentence which says:

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However, Government agencies and community organisations will, in some cases, request proof of aboriginality when applying for Indigenous-specific services or programs."

If you are now unsure, go back and check what I claimed about whether you need to prove whether you are aborginal or not. Be sure to think hard and see if you can string a few thoughts together.

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Subsonic said..

University of Melbourne might be happy enough with a persons own assessment of their heritage, but it turns out you need a bit more than that as far as the government is concerned (not much more though.).

www.servicesaustralia.gov.au/ra010

I am not sure that the document you have linked to is meant to 'prove' aboriginality. I think it is for people that have no identity documents, but are aboriginal. It looks like it 'sort of' can be used to prove that you are known as an aboriginal person, but I wonder if the assessment process looks at other factors once it is submitted?

I suspect that anyone can't just self-identify, then get a school principal to be a referee and then meet the criteria. The form appears to be meant to be used for Education purposes, so I wonder if it also applies to other services or benefits?

Four posts in a row.

No wind today, no more seasons of waking dead to binge watch, run out of jam donuts to scoff down, nothing else going on in your life?

So much anger, how sad!

Lidia Thorpe has a long lineage in aboriginal activism with her mother, grandmother and great grandmother all involved in activism.

Her grandmother helped set up the aboriginal tent embacy in 1972 and founded the Victorian Aboriginal Health Service.

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myscreenname said..
Four posts in a row.

No wind today, no more seasons of waking dead to binge watch, run out of jam donuts to scoff down, nothing else going on in your life?

So much anger, how sad!

Dude, just accept it and move on.

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Lidia Thorpe has a long lineage in aboriginal activism with her mother, grandmother and great grandmother all involved in activism.

Her grandmother helped set up the aboriginal tent embacy in 1972 and founded the Victorian Aboriginal Health Service

What are you the news service now? I came across that info too, but unlike you I figured I would learn it and not randomly post it.

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FormulaNova said..
What are you the news service now? I came across that info too, but unlike you I figured I would learn it and not randomly post it.

Just providing info on Lidia's aboriginality to the angry racists on Seabreeze, with nothing else to do.

You can read about Lidia's great grandmother here.

www.firstpeoplesrelations.vic.gov.au/edna-brown

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myscreenname said..

FormulaNova said..
What are you the news service now? I came across that info too, but unlike you I figured I would learn it and not randomly post it.

Just providing info on Lidia's aboriginality to the angry racists on Seabreeze, with nothing else to do.

I thought I said I was about as racist as you are intelligent? Oh yeah, I guess you could take that another way. But no.

My aunty, who is a TorresStraight Islander by birth, often would comment about the vocal protesters in her community. They weren't very flattering comments, but I can't comment about whether they were deserved comments or not.

As for nothing to do, the weekend is over, and its time to do productive work. The wind forecast is pretty good and I could probably fit in a kite this afternoon, but sometimes work calls.

Hey myscreenname

Did you manage to pickup Glen A Baker's pop collection in the end or were you outbid ?

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FormulaNova said..
My aunty, who is a TorresStraight Islander by birth...

Are there other ways to become of Torres Straight Island ethnic origin other than by birth ?

Is it, for example, statistically possible for the DNA in blueberrys to alter human DNA and turn a haole into a Torres Straight Islander ?

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Carantoc said..
Hey myscreenname

Did you manage to pickup Glen A Baker's pop collection in the end or were you outbid ?

I was outbid at $507. I thought my offer was valid.

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myscreenname said..
I was outbid at $507. I thought my offer was valid.

Ouch. So close. Just $ 313,493 short.

But I guess that is the nature of auctions. Some people get a bit carried away and some people miss out at the last fall of the hammer. At least you had a go.

Righto. more importantly how do the Greens sit with her wearing fur?

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I thought I said I was about as racist as you are intelligent?

Yes, why do you have to repeat yourself, racist?

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myscreenname said..

FormulaNova said..
I thought I said I was about as racist as you are intelligent?

Yes, why do you have to repeat yourself, racist?

Sir Clive is dead and you are stupid.

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FormulaNova said..
Sir Clive is dead and you are stupid.

Just a little fact checking as to the analysis of the posted certificate of evidence :

Sir Clive Sinclair - passed away 16 September 2021.
myscreename - seabreeze forum member since May 2020.

Hence there appears to be enough overlap of time for this myth to be PLAUSABLE.

I also identify as highly intelligent so that along with my MENSA certificate proves that the angry racist with too much time on his hands has got nothing.

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myscreenname said..
I also identify as highly intelligent...

Where does that sit on the STB scale ?

Is it :
Gold) Architect : Self identifies as being of superior intelligence
Silver) Scientist : Self Identifies as being of greater intelligence
Bronze) myscreenname : Self identifies as being highly intelligent

or have I got the order wrong ?

If only Bloom had put it into a taxonomy triangle and coloured it all in rainbow like.

What are the chances of this happening? You got the exact same score as Timothy.

I took an IQ test once.

It came back negative.

boom-tish.

The greens are exremists. Lydia is racist. I say no to special treatment. Give them nuthin. Equality no matter who u are. No positive discrimination, special allowances programs etc for gender or race. Nuttin.

I wish I learnt more about them and their culture at school. More interesting and relevant than learning about what Oliver Cromwell got up to in England in 1600.

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myusernam said..
The greens are exremists. Lydia is racist. I say no to special treatment. Give them nuthin. Equality no matter who u are. No positive discrimination, special allowances programs etc for gender or race. Nuttin.

Memes are where its at man.

Seems like anybody but a white person is allowed to be a racist.

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fangman said..
What are the chances of this happening? You got the exact same score as Timothy.

I think you might have gotten that wrong. When you take a close look you can see it may actually be a valid certificate for myscreenname. They look very similar, but no, the score appears to be consistent.

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myscreenname said..
I wish I learnt more about them and their culture at school. More interesting and relevant than learning about what Oliver Cromwell got up to in England in 1600.

You would be too busy wouldn't you? Doing all that campaigning about Palestine and the injustices there?

How do you find all that time to whinge about all these issues on Seabreeze as well as doing actual work behind the scenes to help these people out? Oh, you are one of those people... all talk, no action.

What's going to be the next outrage you get onboard with without actually doing anything?

Maybe you should self-identify as something different each week?

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FormulaNova said..
You would be too busy wouldn't you? Doing all that campaigning about Palestine and the injustices there?

How do you find all that time to whinge about all these issues on Seabreeze as well as doing actual work behind the scenes to help these people out? Oh, you are one of those people... all talk, no action.

What's going to be the next outrage you get onboard with without actually doing anything?

Maybe you should self-identify as something different each week?

Those angry pills you are on seem to be working. Maybe stick to what your doctor prescribed, rather than scoffing down the whole bottle and cutting loose on STB.