I also just don't get it. Why can't they get married? How on earth does it make any difference to everyone else?

Stitch said...

I also just don't get it. Why can't they get married? How on earth does it make any difference to everyone else?

more to the point, why are the homosexual group making such a huge fuss about it if this is the scenario you and a huge like minded pose?.
i just dont get that either. And big fuss, I mean some very powerful people making big waves if not getting each his/her own way in this debate, from Penny Wong level across Government and business alike.
Got me stuffed

Probably got more to do with the fact XXXXX church don't support same sex marriage and the government did acknowledge it The major XXXXX church would be deemed "discriminative" by same sex couples.

I support acknowledgement of same sex couples but i think they may and try and rewrite traditional wedding values of the XXXXXX church. IF they are accomodated already with a religion that supports the same sex marriage it should be honored .
I think alot of politicians are traditional churchies and probally dont want it in.

As the saying goes "I think they should have the right to get married so they can be miserable like everyone else"

As I said in the last thread about this I am strongly against it being called marriage as it is NOT marriage and never can be - but if they want to hook up and have a legal union then go for it

Totally against a right to have kids though and that is one of the stumbling blocks to gay marriage - will they have equal rights to adopt children who are then raised with no mum or dad influence.

(shaking head that I'm even getting involved...)

few points you guys seem to be missing

1. Centrelink already treats gay de facto / hetero de facto / hetero married in exactly the same ways, it's only when 1 partner dies or is sick that the legal status is significantly different - and significantly to the detriment of gay couples

2. if being gay is a 'choice' are you all saying that you feel you could make that choice? That you could choose not only the sex part but to fall in love with and make a home with a member of your sex. I don't think I could, it's just not the way I'm wired.

3. Lots of gay couples (especially) women already have children, it's harder for men and I doubt the legal status of being married will make it any easier for gay men to 'acquire' children. It's already almost impossible to adopt Australian children and very very difficult to adopt from overseas.

4. Not all gay people want the same things, some may want (or have wanted) to be "different", lots and lots and lots want to be the same. For some but not all this means marriage

5. I don't think that you can say that gay people are truly accepted until they have exactly the same rights as everyone else. This includes the right to marry. Civil unions etc are still different and seen as inferior.

6. Yes I think it is inevitable that gay marriage rights will be passed, and that soon enough a gay couple will want to be married in a church and there will be legal action and the traditionals will squeal and carry on blah blah blah

One exeption to the HS having children should be allowed
cloning - when available
assuming that this same genotype will be happy to be raised in similar , well known environment...
but I am not so sure even about that (that genes describe HS deviation )

aw come on guys,

if 2 kiters want to commit in a beautiful union then i say why not.

I love watching the religious lobby on TV droning on about the sanctity of marriage. I really think they need to get down to the family law courts at about 10 in the morning to watch the sanctity in action.

If some people are hard wired to be homosexual, then other people must be wired to be murderers, thieves, humanitarians or whatever. If people are hard wired to act a certain way, why can't this be determined at birth?

Given that out of the few people who choose to be gay and that not all of them want the same things. It must be a very tiny percentage of the general population wanting this marriage thing.

Why is it such a big issue, why is it so important to only a few people? I don't think gay marriage will ever get up. I'd rather our government take better care of people with real disabilities, rather than a few outspoken people who choose to live a certain lifestyle.

The few homosexuals who want to get married and have children that badly should become hetrosexual.

Why would homo's want to give up the free and easy life for marriage?!

wow. i'm ashamed to read this forum at times.
it's a reminder of just how backward so many people still are.

as backward as doing each other up the poop shoot and calling it natural...?

Aslong as they dance like this on there wedding night !

youngbull said...

^^^ not funny doctor don't go there..

if it was NATURAL, homosexual intercourse would produce an offspring, as ol' dave has told me via a many a nature doco, a natural intercourse would do.....


many of my friends are of the queer persuation, including my current house'mate', tolerance doesn't make it natural, my best mate, painfully straight as a dye earns his keep dancing in gay clubs... axelandra the great was apparently great at tossing the male salad, our current pm keeps a beard on hand for the mainsteam media...

on a conspiracy/protical bent, we are (in totality) our chemical make up, which is/can be influenced, via diet, or vaccine, our brain chemistry, which is influenced (determined) by our chemical bent. we are a big bag of chemicals, controlled by our influences, which are introduced chemicals. pre determined introduced chemicals.
ergo: homosexuality (as a norm) is an unnaturally influenced chemical bent

welcome to agenda 21

yeah well, unless you got a contract with jim rose...

hemaphrodite ain't quite natural either, well it might occur naturally but human(sic) evolution ain't built upon it