superlizard said..







I totally acknowledge your positive intention to save lives and minimise risks in the community, however this is not as simple though.
First, you could apply this analogy for every flu to date, and say everyone must always take every possible vaccine, as any kind of flu could potentially cause death to a vulnerable person with an existing condition.

Then you could go further and say, spending money on anything unnecessary (alcohol, cigarettes, unnecessary gadgets etc etc) is causing children in 3rd world countries to die because that money and resources could have been spent to buy them food. That should make pretty much everyone feel responsible!!??

Then you could go further and say, illnesses and vulnerabilities are passed down from parents/ancestors... hence anyone not living a healthy lifestyle is responsible for passing down corrupted genetic code to their offspring. Anyone living unhealthy lifestyle should feel responsible??

The only way you can really make anyone feel guilty about not taking a vaccine is if it can be proven with 100% certainty that the vaccine is not going to cause any short/long term negative side-effects/harm to anyone who takes it. And on top of that make companies producing these responsible/liable for their product (as you would expect for just about anything you buy these days). For instance, I've tried a flu shot little while ago, and had the worst year of health (with respect to viruses and flus) in my life. Since then I've never taken a vaccine, and been 10 years now, and not one single flu (whilst being exposed to public transport and office environment full of people every day). Should I feel guilty about not taking a vaccine now? I'm not arguing that all vaccines are bad. I'm just saying, it's not for everyone... hence you can't make a blanket rule with it... or make everyone feel guilty about not taking it.

However, there are ways of protecting each other... i.e. stay home if you are sick.. wear mask... live healthy lifestyle.

Hunter S said..
^ AFAIK the flu vaccine is an inactivated virus. There are all sorts of vaccines. Doubt the plan is to inject people with stuff to make them ill, but people are free to believe whatever.

KiteWindnSurf said..




There's a million things that you do for society which don't benefit you directly, eg you don't carry a gun, don't drive at 160 in a school zone, dont throw your garbage out the window, pay taxes, dont talk too loudly on your mobile on a crowded train, taking a CoViD vaccine should be one of those as well. Flu shots are not about erradication, rather just self protection of the vulnerable , eg elderly or kids. Between 20 and 50yo they're advised but not totally necessary. The CT nuts may argue otherwise but CoViD is more dangerous and herd immunity/erradication is more necessary. As you might know, flu viruses are too many to immunise totally for, they change every year and so virtually impossible to erradicate. The flu I don't think is even just one virus, but many different types.

It's a fact that there's no way to convince everyone to vaccinate, as there are some 'specially gifted' people with more knowledge than the rest of us regarding Bill Gates and special chips to monitor us, but it's pretty poor form if rational people can't do something for the common good.

awkward customer said..
I'm pretty excited for a vaccine to be released. It's amazing to me how a bunch of smart people can band together across the planet to come up with a answer to a disease that has killed a million people while the rest of us carry on with our lives. I get forced by my work to get the flu shot every year and get between 2-5 boosters and needles in total (job involves a lot of travel).
I havent had a sick day off in fourteen years (and no I dont go to work sick either).

I reckon I have a pretty good chance of surviving COVID unscathed if infected but what the hell I'll just get the vaccine when it comes out. The goverment/Bill Gates would get pretty bored tracking my activities.