Youre right but its not an inhabited one.

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log man said..
1. So the right .......ie The climate denying, "it's a communist plot" , " Australia's always had droughts" right wing is now the friend of science and aren't at all ignorant fools.
2. I wish you'd get your story straight.
3. The reality is you've lost the battle about GW and in a pathetic attempt to get some attention and relevance you're now engaged in a fallback position of telling people what sort of power generation is good and what's not. Sorry but you lost any credibility when you did all the " australias always had droughts " stuff. So thanks very much for your most helpful advice on power generation............but stfu

1.
You're just conflating all your straw men into one big pile of straw men. No wonder you have problem with fires...

2.
Not my story, just another one of your straw man.

3.
Another invention You just keep inventing nonsense and putting it in other people's mouths then claim they have no "credibility".

Just in case you missed it: this will be the first time I've typed the word "drought" on this forum. You're just making **** up. Again.

Because the fact of the matter is your best arguments, the very best you have to defend your position, is to attack other people -- and not their argument.

Because you ain't got ****.

Well, apart from ideological fervor and a fistful of ... propaganda.

"Credibility" LOL complains the guy who can't even respond to the correct person

1. Are you saying that you just happen to have an interest in one sort of power generation, completely separated from the debate we've had ove the last 20 years about GW? Come on comrade!

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log man said..
1. Are you saying that you just happen to have an interest in one sort of power generation, completely separated from the debate we've had ove the last 20 years about GW? Come on comrade!

That doesn't even make sense. As usual.

I don't have an interest in power generation. I've looked at the data, and if you're honestly concerned about the factors that contribute to AGW (the A being the most important factor, which you keep leaving out ... for some reason...) then consistently there is at this point in time one form of power generation that checks the right boxes.

Otherwise, you're just pushing an anti-science ideology.

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Kamikuza said..

log man said..
1. Are you saying that you just happen to have an interest in one sort of power generation, completely separated from the debate we've had ove the last 20 years about GW? Come on comrade!

That doesn't even make sense. As usual.

I don't have an interest in power generation. I've looked at the data, and if you're honestly concerned about the factors that contribute to AGW (the A being the most important factor, which you keep leaving out ... for some reason...) then consistently there is at this point in time one form of power generation that checks the right boxes.

Otherwise, you're just pushing an anti-science ideology.

"A" ........what?

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Kamikuza said..

log man said..

"A" ........what?

You could not win rational dispute with monkey, my Log friend.
Since second war and now ****ushima there are all told that radiation is nothing you need to be afraid off.Simply because all those poor people don't have any place to escape, so need to live with that threat. " What you could not see , can't kill you"
Monkey is not thinking just respond to conditioning like Pavlov dogs. Everything the monkey say is actually anti science but somehow those monkey is constantly invoking some connection ( which is commonly known as pseudo science). It is also hard to find out what is monkey fighting for or what to want to communicate.
After most recent ****u* event all monkey brain neurons now gone and just responding on reflexes level from spine.
Hopefully could still eat bananas while texting to SB constant nonsense and urinate at will not spontaneously when reading SB feedbacks.

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Macroscien said..

Kamikuza said..

log man said..

"A" ........what?

You could not win rational dispute with monkey, my Log friend.
Since second war and now ****ushima there are all told that radiation is nothing you need to be afraid off.Simply because all those poor people don't have any place to escape, so need to live with that threat. " What you could not see , can't kill you"
Monkey is not thinking just respond to conditioning like Pavlov dogs. Everything the monkey say is actually anti science but somehow those monkey is constantly invoking some connection ( which is commonly known as pseudo science). It is also hard to find out what is monkey fighting for or what to want to communicate.
After most recent ****u* event all monkey brain neurons now gone and just responding on reflexes level from spine.
Hopefully could still eat bananas while texting to SB constant nonsense and urinate at will not spontaneously when reading SB feedbacks.

I know how you feel mate

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Macroscien said..

Kamikuza said..

log man said..

"A" ........what?

You could not win rational dispute with monkey, my Log friend.
Since second war and now ****ushima there are all told that radiation is nothing you need to be afraid off.Simply because all those poor people don't have any place to escape, so need to live with that threat. " What you could not see , can't kill you"
Monkey is not thinking just respond to conditioning like Pavlov dogs. Everything the monkey say is actually anti science but somehow those monkey is constantly invoking some connection ( which is commonly known as pseudo science). It is also hard to find out what is monkey fighting for or what to want to communicate.
After most recent ****u* event all monkey brain neurons now gone and just responding on reflexes level from spine.
Hopefully could still eat bananas while texting to SB constant nonsense and urinate at will not spontaneously when reading SB feedbacks.

Still waiting for the list of names of people who died of radiation poisoning from ****ushima. All that radiation, surely someone died...somewhere...

What you can't see *can* kill you ... IF YOU GET A HIGH ENOUGH DOSE.

Since you brought up bananas -- hope you don't eat them at all because they're radioactive, don't you know ... up to 600% background radiation OMG all the radiation that must be pumping out of the fruit n veges section at Whole Foods don't even go in there! AAAAH radiation!!!

Facts, mate. They matter. Otherwise...

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log man said..
"A" ........what?

An "anti-science ideology". Such as, "nuclear power bad because radiation OMG".

If you can't understand the simple concept that "the dose does the damage" then please PLEASE get someone with an actual functioning brainstem to monitor all your activities. We wouldn't want you to drink too much water and so poison yourself.

And lets not forget, you're so addled you simply don't know who you're replying to. Get someone to check that for you too.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page****ushima_Daiichi_nuclear_disaster_casualties

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Kamikuza said..

Macroscien said..

Kamikuza said..

log man said..

"A" ........what?

You could not win rational dispute with monkey, my Log friend.
Since second war and now ****ushima there are all told that radiation is nothing you need to be afraid off.Simply because all those poor people don't have any place to escape, so need to live with that threat. " What you could not see , can't kill you"
Monkey is not thinking just respond to conditioning like Pavlov dogs. Everything the monkey say is actually anti science but somehow those monkey is constantly invoking some connection ( which is commonly known as pseudo science). It is also hard to find out what is monkey fighting for or what to want to communicate.
After most recent ****u* event all monkey brain neurons now gone and just responding on reflexes level from spine.
Hopefully could still eat bananas while texting to SB constant nonsense and urinate at will not spontaneously when reading SB feedbacks.

Still waiting for the list of names of people who died of radiation poisoning from ****ushima. All that radiation, surely someone died...somewhere...

What you can't see *can* kill you ... IF YOU GET A HIGH ENOUGH DOSE.

Since you brought up bananas -- hope you don't eat them at all because they're radioactive, don't you know ... up to 600% background radiation OMG all the radiation that must be pumping out of the fruit n veges section at Whole Foods don't even go in there! AAAAH radiation!!!

Facts, mate. They matter. Otherwise...

log man said..
"A" ........what?

An "anti-science ideology". Such as, "nuclear power bad because radiation OMG".

If you can't understand the simple concept that "the dose does the damage" then please PLEASE get someone with an actual functioning brainstem to monitor all your activities. We wouldn't want you to drink too much water and so poison yourself.

And lets not forget, you're so addled you simply don't know who you're replying to. Get someone to check that for you too.

All this emotion and irrationality wasted on a conservatives fairy tail.

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All this emotion and irrationality wasted on a Conservative's fairy tale.

This from the guy ignoring any science and insisting it's bipartisan issue.

All we need is HG to jump in and we'll have a self-sustaining critical mass of irony

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IanR said..
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page****ushima_Daiichi_nuclear_disaster_casualties

What is quite surprising that smart Japaneses could not even design and construct robot able to withstand ****_ ima environment.They could design remote operating devices in the space millions of kilometers away on comets and asteroids sweeping trough solar system , but once it comes to their own backyard robots keeps dying like flies once enter near broken reactor.There is great future for nuclear reactors but in the outer space when we could use all uranium we want and dispose old reactors sending to the Sun to burn.There is also future for fusion reactors but they are 20 years away and most likely always will be for the nearest future.

Interestingly wholerenevable energy world is still focused on energy storage , but none comes with idea of shifting electric power across time zones. Simple calculation should prove that building long distance transmitting line should be cheaper then massive battery storage.

www.wired.com/story/****ushima-robot-cleanup


It look Elon Must 1 year to complete new Tesla gigafactory in China, but Japanese a decade after disaster still scratching heads how to deal with leftover.
spectrum.ieee.org/automaton/robotics/industrial-robots/toshiba-amphibious-robot-for-****ushima-reactor-pool

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IanR said..
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page****ushima_Daiichi_nuclear_disaster_casualties

Good post:


"no increase in miscarriages, stillbirths or physical and mental disorders in babies born after the accident"


"there were no deaths from radiation exposure in the immediate aftermath of the incident"


"Radiation deaths at Chernobyl were also statistically undetectable"


Etc.

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Macroscien said..
What is quite surprising that smart Japaneses could not even design and construct robot able to withstand ****_ ima environment.They could design remote operating devices in the space millions of kilometers away on comets and asteroids sweeping trough solar system , but once it comes to their own backyard robots keeps dying like flies once enter near broken reactor.

Honestly mate, are you being racist, patronizing or just stupid?

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Kamikuza said..

just stupid?

I have few pets here
Cattle

dogs

Ducks


Gold Fish

and all seems to be smarter then Comic monkey.
I may have some pests also and all seems to be easier to squish then monkey pest.
ants

termites.
Now I have proposal for you. Update your avatar logo to more adequate.

"Don't worry kid. I am not died . Just having a nap after dinner"


I **** radiation did not finish you, there must be a better way.

Your responses to critics are not tasteful, ComicUSA.


You are not friendly hand breed species on SB.


You comments have no value at all,
Can you think about something constructive at all ?

Which planet are you on Macro??

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cisco said..
Which planet are you on Macro??

Planet Earth span or rather is divided into 24 time zones.
The only country that always have a sun shining and light is Russia. The question is if Russia could resolve or contribute in the fight against climate change ( instead of polluting the world with fossil fuels) ?


If they could build High Voltage Direct Current line across this country that could supply electric power to both Europe and Asia, transfer excess safely between those two.
Political Climate may improve when instead of ballistic missiles , fast electrons will travel across continent. Spanning 11 time zones require them to build nothing our world seen before, but that may be future that save weather climate on our planet. Instead of stock market trading in NY the next most important could be trading electric flow between countries and who control it could benefit the most?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-voltage_direct_current


At this moment in time the global order is dictated by those three : oil, gas and coal. If we want to save our planet from extinction those 3 must be soon replaced by clean electric energy power alone. This indicate that balance of power belongs to those that could one day control the flow of electricity around the world. Lets thing about this today!

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log man said..
All this emotion and irrationality wasted on a Conservative's fairy tale.

This from the guy ignoring any science and insisting it's bipartisan issue.

All we need is HG to jump in and we'll have a self-sustaining critical mass of irony

97 percent of scientists agree with me comrade. You can try and mislead, hair split and water muddy as much as you like but I'm pointing at the scoreboard. So.....

Yes we all know that well.
Australia is unable to build a car, piece of complex machinery or even wind turbine
Need to send raw materials overseas to be process.
But there maybe is something we could do one day utilizing our vast copper resources?


Can we build here in Australia high quality underse or underground electric cable on massive scale, to supply the rest of the world?
Can we import from Japan, Korea or Germany machinery to wind up those precise cables?
Whole world is going electric very soon and business potential is unlimited. Can government still could find few spare billions dollars to promote industry and help to get off the ground?



Our direct competitor is Chile, Peru ( not the technological superpowers one may think) so we should be able to beat them.
One may also consider that laying electric cables in Australia could be smart move , taking into account bushfires : both ignated by electric cables or consumed by. Once laying deep underground we should be safe.
Since scale required is nation wide effort - we could not expect a single private company suddenly pop up with plans to draw electric cables to supply the rest of the world. Like Jesus born once in the millenia, Elon Musk is not here and we could not relay on our billionaires to do suddenly something smart for the country. It should be government and nation utmost priority to utlize national copper resources and convert into high value product.

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log man said..

Kamikuza said..

log man said..
All this emotion and irrationality wasted on a Conservative's fairy tale.

This from the guy ignoring any science and insisting it's bipartisan issue.

All we need is HG to jump in and we'll have a self-sustaining critical mass of irony

97 percent of scientists agree with me comrade. You can try and mislead, hair split and water muddy as much as you like but I'm pointing at the scoreboard. So.....

You mean you agree with the findings of 97% of scientists.

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cisco said..
Which planet are you on Macro??

The proper question should sound like that: From when are you, Macro ? / When are you from?
If you are Time traveller , by a simple Law of Physics you are prevented from direct action that may cause Time Paradox. So you are not allowed to build a spaceship propelled by eccentric power to hyper speed trough Universe. But there is small loophole that did not prevent you from making small improvement by subconscious suggestion.One day people around could ( re) discover things I am talking about as their own thought, invent something that was already invented sometimes , somewhere. Let do a bet and read that post 10 -20 years from now and see who was right or wrong. CyberMonkey or Macro Traveller.

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log man said..

Kamikuza said..

log man said..
All this emotion and irrationality wasted on a Conservative's fairy tale.

This from the guy ignoring any science and insisting it's bipartisan issue.

All we need is HG to jump in and we'll have a self-sustaining critical mass of irony

97 percent of scientists agree with me comrade. You can try and mislead, hair split and water muddy as much as you like but I'm pointing at the scoreboard. So.....

LOL you're not even talking about the same thing, but sure keep bringing up the poorly done science like it proves anything except your ignorance and confirmation bias.


100% of scientists agree the damage is in the dose.


So ...... you lose.

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Macroscien said..

cisco said..
Which planet are you on Macro??

The proper question should sound like that: From when are you, Macro ? / When are you from?
If you are Time traveller , by a simple Law of Physics you are prevented from direct action that may cause Time Paradox. So you are not allowed to build a spaceship propelled by eccentric power to hyper speed trough Universe. But there is small loophole that did not prevent you from making small improvement by subconscious suggestion.One day people around could ( re) discover things I am talking about as their own thought, invent something that was already invented sometimes , somewhere. Let do a bet and read that post 10 -20 years from now and see who was right or wrong. CyberMonkey or Macro Traveller.

Sigh. Whatever planet you're on, you gotta stop getting your science from Greenpeace or your Scientologist mates

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Kamikuza said..

Sigh. Whatever planet you're on, you gotta stop getting your science from Greenpeace or your Scientologist mates

Everybody quiet. ComicUSA is trying to concentrate.


only to suddenly explode with such phenomenal discovery ..." Whatever planet you're on ...."Do you really believe in extraterrestrial infestation of our Earthly humans society?
Do you subscribe to all those UFO believers , only to accuse now somebody to be one of those ?

Actually you could be right. So better think twice before attacking one. Remember what research/ experiments they may do with you once abducted ?






ComicUSA takin now revenge over Aliens hiding here on SB.

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Kamikuza said..

Greenpeace

Astonishing lack of empathy for the rest of human population.For 1% of population living inside air conditioned cubicle and driving air conditioned vehicle Weather and Climate doesn't exist.Fiction .Invented by Greenpeace and Greta.I am not going to change your state of mind ( obviously irrecoverably sick) but demonstrate to remaining majority ( that don't even to bother to read ComicUSA ).AntiScience and AntiSocial individuum may claim that nothing Humans do will effect planet ( both in bad and good sense) .I do claim that since humans could do something wrong , could also fix it if needed. Astonishing the fact somebody did join such environmental topic / subject only to discard everything and bring no sensible idea at all on his own.

How is your Christmas present doing, ComicUSA ? If your anti radiation suit from Santa protect you from all elements?

F**k all those robots. You could now go to F888shima and get clean all those uranium rods yourself.

No worries mates. We are already on stage 2 , which means that 3rd is coming very soon.

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Macroscien said..

Kamikuza said..

Greenpeace

Astonishing lack of empathy for the rest of human population.

You're right: Greenpeace hates corporations and science more than it has any concern for actual people.


geneticliteracyproject.org/2019/11/08/golden-rice-the-gmo-crop-loved-by-humanitarians-opposed-by-greenpeace/


I guess Greenpeace thinks those millions of kids don't deserve to see, and should stopping being poor so they can buy organic rice..?

(This goes towards the anti-science ideology pushed by Greenpeace, Nellie log jam gets his knickers in a knot.)

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Kamikuza said..

You're right: Greenpeace hates

No, you are right. The problems with so called Greenies is such that movement attract at this moment uneducated and obscurant element, unable to understand how world and ecology works. Demanding from corporate building something , to contribute suddenly 10 mln $$ to save 1 snail living at that medow , doesn't resolve problems. The same opposition could meet my program of flooding vast deserted areas in Australia with water. Some sand flies may loose natural habitats, since other species may thrive. But things are going to change slowly. In Europe Green parties are less interested in growing weeds and curly hairs , but clean air and water to drink. Hopefully Greta also will have a chance to get some further education, will not stop schooling now to sacrify that part of life for the cause. What world need is smart , educated Greenies as counterweight to merciless industrialist grabbing for himself something that belongs to all of human race.

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Kamikuza said..

I guess Greenpeace thinks

For me future Green world means:

replacing this

with those

Well if you want to save 16million tonnes of fuel being burnt a day stop shipping.
In this day & age all manufacturing should be local & you can't tell me labour costs of local manufacturing ,costs more than that just the loading & unloading labour would be more .