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Alfa Romeo Is Back!

Created by Adriano Adriano  > 9 months ago, 5 May 2017
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Adriano
Adriano

11206 posts

5 May 2017 5:13am
Giulia Quadrifolio takes out the BMW M3 Competition package.

When the Italians do something right, they really do it right.

WazzaYotty
WazzaYotty

QLD

302 posts

5 May 2017 7:27am
The Italians sure do. Great looking and sounding. While it continues to work of course.
Perhaps they also have a couple of hitmen available to relieve the world of 2 very, very irritating Americans.
dmitri
dmitri

VIC

1040 posts

5 May 2017 9:41am
The Italian car industry died in the early 90s when the last Delta Integrale came out off the factory.
EDIT I must add the Italians don't even reproduce at replacement rate, sure sing of the dying culture.
Pugwash
Pugwash

WA

7730 posts

5 May 2017 7:46am
Pfffftt... Skoda the whole way
DARTH
DARTH

WA

3028 posts

5 May 2017 7:47am
Had a look at one on the weekend, looked nice.
RichardG
RichardG

WA

3761 posts

5 May 2017 8:56am
Alfa Romeo are wonderful cars. I am on my 3rd Alfa Romeo. The Giulia Quadrifoglio I do love but it is a very expensive car, (basically a Ferrari with an Alfa badge) and great if you can afford it. However, I think the Giulia Veloce is the better vehicle and better priced for me. Then there is the Stelvio SUV. Alfa Romeo a decision of the heart more than the head. I think both are now possible with the new Alfas.
Pugwash
Pugwash

WA

7730 posts

5 May 2017 9:14am
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Influence of Jeremy Clarkson, Richard Hammond and James May on car buying globally?
Tequila !
Tequila !

WA

1028 posts

5 May 2017 9:20am
Alfas are exactly like a very pretty and expensive high maintenance girlfriend.

You need to have experienced one of those at least once in your life

This new line up looks really good
Beaglebuddy
Beaglebuddy

1595 posts

5 May 2017 2:55pm
Fix it again Tony.
Adriano
Adriano

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5 May 2017 3:24pm
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novetti said..
Alfas are exactly like a very pretty and expensive high maintenance girlfriend.

You need to have experienced one of those at least once in your life

This new line up looks really good


Exactly what I used to think. But when you get hundreds of designers and engineers from Ferrari designing a car that aims to save Alfa, it looks like a game changer for the company - which was a heart beat away from death.
RichardG
RichardG

WA

3761 posts

5 May 2017 3:49pm
I would rather have any Alfa over a Skoda.
myusernam
myusernam

QLD

6154 posts

5 May 2017 6:16pm
not really a car guy but looks good. this was a good vid as well
harry potter
harry potter

VIC

2777 posts

5 May 2017 8:30pm
One swallow does not make a summer ....

however perhaps two might




decrepit
decrepit

WA

12802 posts

5 May 2017 7:23pm
Richard I had a 1974 2l GTV Unfortunately the previous owner had bent it fairly severely, and nobody could get the wheel alignment right. Was fine up to about 90km/hr but after that it started to get a bit hairy. All the same it was soooo much fun, I still have dreams about it. Here's a pic from 30 years ago.







RichardG
RichardG

WA

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5 May 2017 8:13pm
Yes decrepit Thanks for posting that great photo.You are indeed a man of great taste. The "105 series" are beautiful cars and were highly successful racing cars throughout the world still much loved today by Alfisti.

My father had two of them a 1750 GTV and a 2000 GTV (and the "non 105" Alfetta GTV 2000) and these were all designed by Giorgietto Giugaro when he worked for Bertone (and later of Italdesign) one the greatest car designers ever and designer of countless Alfas up to the Alfa 159 2.2 JTS Ti Selespeed which is my vehicle similar to as pictured. Italdesign was so good that the consortium of VW, Porsche, Audi, Lamborghini, SEAT Skoda etc purchased the business as I presume they did not want Fiat, Ferrari, Alfa Maserati etc to have access to the designs. Italians are world beaters in car design.I actually think the 159 design is better than the Giulia.




Indeed you can buy new 105 series which are retrofitted by a company called Alfaholics which are seriously fast although highly expensive. See below.

www.alfaholics.com/articles/evo-magazine-review-alfaholics-gta-r-270/





Alfa forever.
decrepit
decrepit

WA

12802 posts

5 May 2017 8:48pm
DROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!

Yes that 159 looks great, but I still prefer the GTV
Adriano
Adriano

11206 posts

6 May 2017 6:31am
Drool indeed.

I still maintain the 159 is the best designed sedan body ever and yes Decrepit, I agree the GTV is the best Alfa design.

I owned a 159 sedan in the UK for a few years. Awesome car, but the Giulia is a better car all around hands down.

At 1/4 the price of a Giulia, the Octavia vRS is still about the same value for money as the Giulia QF.

If one had $160,000 to throw at a Giulia QF, it would be an interesting alternative to the same old M3's and AMG's.
Keaw Yed.
Keaw Yed.

WA

201 posts

6 May 2017 9:12am
They had the looks, great looking cars, but reliability was extremely poor (if t all that good)
- Like Novetti mentioned high maintenance
Ian K
Ian K

WA

4164 posts

6 May 2017 9:44am
159? I think we're all over long, low and swoopy 4 door sedans that try and hark back to a Le Mans racer. Passengers don't like being driven fast. That's why 2wd SUVs are taking over. Better packaging, comfy upright seating.





decrepit
decrepit

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6 May 2017 11:09am
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Ian K said..
159? I think we're all over long, low and swoopy 4 door sedans that try and hark back to a Le Mans racer. Passengers don't like being driven fast. That's why 2wd SUVs are taking over. Better packaging, comfy upright seating.





Who cares about the passenger??????????? These cars are for the driver!
Adriano
Adriano

11206 posts

6 May 2017 12:24pm
Indeed Decrepit. There are still many people who appreciate cars as a thing of beauty and excitement, rather than seeing them as just boring transport with average handling and performance.

Some cars are designed with the driver in mind rather than just built to suit an unattainable marketing pitch about fun, and fantasy and what a wonderful thing that is!

This doesn't mean one can't drive a Giulia QF with family comfortably around town.

It's a fundamental misunderstanding about cars.
RichardG
RichardG

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3761 posts

6 May 2017 12:43pm
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Adriano said..
Indeed Decrepit. There are still many people who appreciate cars as a thing of beauty and excitement, rather than seeing them as just boring transport with average handling and performance.

Some cars are designed with the driver in mind rather than just built to suit an unattainable marketing pitch about fun, and fantasy and what a wonderful thing that is!

This doesn't mean one can't drive a Giulia QF with family comfortably around town.

It's a fundamental misunderstanding about cars.





Agreed. I would also like to point out Alfa Romeo are worth owning. They are despite what you hear, reliable and they are not too expensive to service and maintain compared to BMW and Audi. The joy of driving them down to the shops, or to the city or anywhere for that matter and parking the vehicle taking the casual glance back at the Alfa sends a smile to my dial everytime. The elegant line in the corner of your eye, the vision just like the beauty of a desirable woman as you walk away. The driving experience....you feel like legendary Alfa drivers like Tazio Nuvolari, Niki Lauda, Juan Manuel Fangio, Mauro Bianchi, Andrea De Adamich, Tor Hezemans or Alberto Ascari. This is a car with a beating heart.
Ian K
Ian K

WA

4164 posts

6 May 2017 1:52pm
I used to have an Alfasud but I was never that bad. There's a bloke in Wollongong who runs a music shop that has got it bad. Can't help himself. He must have about a dozen of them behind the shopfront and spread around the carpark. You go in to buy a string and spend 15 minutes on Alfas. He's collecting 916s. Hardtops, soft tops. Picks them up on Ebay, not going for a few hundred. Gets the bung electrical bit on the internet and away they go. Though I doubt he can bring himself to selling any. He was comparing his latest $400 acquisition to his wife's Corrolla. Same age, she got a couple of thousand as a trade. It was 15K new , the Alfa was 60K.


Adriano
Adriano

11206 posts

6 May 2017 3:17pm
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RichardG said..Agreed. I would also like to point out Alfa Romeo are worth owning. They are despite what you hear, reliable and they are not too expensive to service and maintain compared to BMW and Audi.


Adriano said..
Indeed Decrepit. There are still many people who appreciate cars as a thing of beauty and excitement, rather than seeing them as just boring transport with average handling and performance.

Some cars are designed with the driver in mind rather than just built to suit an unattainable marketing pitch about fun, and fantasy and what a wonderful thing that is!

This doesn't mean one can't drive a Giulia QF with family comfortably around town.

It's a fundamental misunderstanding about cars.


The joy of driving them down to the shops, or to the city or anywhere for that matter and parking the vehicle taking the casual glance back at the Alfa sends a smile to my dial everytime. The elegant line in the corner of your eye, the vision just like the beauty of a desirable woman as you walk away. The driving experience....you feel like legendary Alfa drivers like Tazio Nuvolari, Niki Lauda, Juan Manuel Fangio, Mauro Bianchi, Andrea De Adamich, Tor Hezemans or Alberto Ascari. This is a car with a beating heart.


Good design.....Some people just don't feel the emotion. Italian design...well that's something else again....

I'd love a Giulia Veloce wagon in a manual. Alfa Red Metallic with red leather. Mmmm....That would be a great car.
RichardG
RichardG

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3761 posts

6 May 2017 7:26pm
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Adriano said..

RichardG said..Agreed. I would also like to point out Alfa Romeo are worth owning. They are despite what you hear, reliable and they are not too expensive to service and maintain compared to BMW and Audi.



Adriano said..
Indeed Decrepit. There are still many people who appreciate cars as a thing of beauty and excitement, rather than seeing them as just boring transport with average handling and performance.

Some cars are designed with the driver in mind rather than just built to suit an unattainable marketing pitch about fun, and fantasy and what a wonderful thing that is!

This doesn't mean one can't drive a Giulia QF with family comfortably around town.

It's a fundamental misunderstanding about cars.



The joy of driving them down to the shops, or to the city or anywhere for that matter and parking the vehicle taking the casual glance back at the Alfa sends a smile to my dial everytime. The elegant line in the corner of your eye, the vision just like the beauty of a desirable woman as you walk away. The driving experience....you feel like legendary Alfa drivers like Tazio Nuvolari, Niki Lauda, Juan Manuel Fangio, Mauro Bianchi, Andrea De Adamich, Tor Hezemans or Alberto Ascari. This is a car with a beating heart.



Good design.....Some people just don't feel the emotion. Italian design...well that's something else again....

I'd love a Giulia Veloce wagon in a manual. Alfa Red Metallic with red leather. Mmmm....That would be a great car.


That will be the Stelvio being released by hopefully 2018 in Australia in several versions with AWD.


Ian K
Ian K

WA

4164 posts

6 May 2017 8:24pm
Hang on! you can't have it both ways. The Stelvio is an SUV (Not that there's anything wrong with that). I've just googled it, 190mm higher than the Giulia. It's built on the same platform.
Look at it from this angle.

RichardG
RichardG

WA

3761 posts

6 May 2017 10:02pm
Yes but it is an Alfa and in QV form I believe it can do 0-100 kmh in 3.9 seconds.
Adriano
Adriano

11206 posts

7 May 2017 8:48am
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RichardG said..
Yes but it is an Alfa and in QV form I believe it can do 0-100 kmh in 3.9 seconds.



E bellissima!
1-100 in 3.9 seconds? - so can a RAV4 Richard - in Ian's dreams!
As for cornering, a RAV4 has about as much finesse as an elephant.
As for design and emotion in a RAV4, can't see it but apparently the marketing would have buyers believe it can make a sloth jump.
dmitri
dmitri

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7 May 2017 12:33pm
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Ian K said..
Hang on! you can't have it both ways. The Stelvio is an SUV (Not that there's anything wrong with that). I've just googled it, 190mm higher than the Giulia. It's built on the same platform.
Look at it from this angle.


everything about the SUVs is wrong. They suck..all of them.
saw a Maserati SUV the other day.. what a freaken joke
Ian K
Ian K

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7 May 2017 11:33am
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dmitri said..



I dunno. I'd give the prize for the coolest SUV to the 2 door Range Rover Evoque. Closely followed by the Suzuki Ignis


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