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eppo said..
One meal a day is fine and dandy but what are you eating on that one meal? Plenty of skinny people who are a ticking time bomb on the inside. That being said fasting is the number one health food supplement on the planet. And it's free.

For that one meal it's usually what everyone else had for dinner the previous day. So that's a normal 'healthy' meal with meat (usually), vegetables, and _some_ carbs but I normally cut most of those out. Then maybe a piece of fruit.
Note that I'm still in the losing weight phase, if you google one meal a day you can see how much others eat to maintain their weight, it's a lot for one meal!

Did anyone else catch the catalyst show on fasting? www.abc.net.au/catalyst/the-truth-about-fasting/13469018

One part of fasting I thought was interesting, was that after about 16 hours of fasting your cells go into 'autophagy' where they start repairing themselves. Most people who eat from the moment they get up, to an hour before bedtime, won't ever get into that state.

Yeh man fasting is the number one nutritional supplement on the planet.

Seed oils. What's wrong with seed oils? I sprinkle flaxseed oil on a vege salad I make up for a lunch. Has that subtle smokey taste. It's that or walnut oil which is even more subtle. They are both relatively high in poly and mono, so I thought they would be good.....

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This is a good chart for assessing oils (I Think)
It's from the article below. I haven't read it thoroughly, not even sure if it mentions the stability of oils at temperature

www.healthline.com/nutrition/optimize-omega-6-omega-3-ratio#TOC_TITLE_HDR_4

Ha ha, yeah I had a look at that. In the table above coconut and palm oil may have lower omega 6 but the sat fat would clog the arteries of ten men. My flaxseed oil looks pretty good - if I'm reading it right.

When you go down the rabbit hole that is health food the conclusion I make is that if you attempt to eat all that is recommended and supposedly good you, won't have the time or stomach real estate to be able to so.

And when you avoid all that is supposedly bad you'd starve!

You've got me convinced.
I'm gonna try some Flaxseed oil

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nebbian said..

eppo said..
One meal a day is fine and dandy but what are you eating on that one meal? Plenty of skinny people who are a ticking time bomb on the inside. That being said fasting is the number one health food supplement on the planet. And it's free.

For that one meal it's usually what everyone else had for dinner the previous day. So that's a normal 'healthy' meal with meat (usually), vegetables, and _some_ carbs but I normally cut most of those out. Then maybe a piece of fruit.
Note that I'm still in the losing weight phase, if you google one meal a day you can see how much others eat to maintain their weight, it's a lot for one meal!

Did anyone else catch the catalyst show on fasting? www.abc.net.au/catalyst/the-truth-about-fasting/13469018

One part of fasting I thought was interesting, was that after about 16 hours of fasting your cells go into 'autophagy' where they start repairing themselves. Most people who eat from the moment they get up, to an hour before bedtime, won't ever get into that state.

Some really interesting stuff been written about autophagy.

It's been known about for ever and a day as well as Hippocrates wrote about it.

"Japanese cell biologist Yoshinori Ohsumi won the Nobel Prize in Medicine in 2016 for his research on how cells recycle and renew their content, a process called autophagy. Fasting activates autophagy, which helps slow down the aging process and has a positive impact on cell renewal."

Wouldn't be terribly popular with the food industry who appear to be hell bent on assuring us that we are not well unless we are chewing something!

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bobajob said..
Seed oils. What's wrong with seed oils? I sprinkle flaxseed oil on a vege salad I make up for a lunch. Has that subtle smokey taste. It's that or walnut oil which is even more subtle. They are both relatively high in poly and mono, so I thought they would be good.....

Exactly whats wrong with them? Thats what i thought and most do until i looked into this. Because we all grew up on canola and vegetable oils right? Then we had the soybean derivatives arrive.

These seeds are naturally low in oils. So they use high temperature and chemical solvents to extract the oil. They are already oxidised and full of free radicals before you use them. Heat them again and the problem is further enhanced.

Study the labelling on most products in a supermarket and you will find them in there. Broad acre mono crop farming with high temp chemical extraction just make it a very profitable option.



thing is do we have the metabolic pathways expressed through millions of years of dna evolution for products developed since the 50s in this case? You can make you own decision on that one.


Refined sugars and grains are on the mainstream radar but these little suckers are still getting a free ride.

Been hitting 18-20 hours daily for last three weeks . Hit 24 hours twice . 18-20 hours really is not that difficult especially if you have your latest meal by 7pm . Then eat lunch at 1pm and you make 18hours . Then try latest by 6pm or 5pm (easier when working from home ) and you get to 19 or 20. If working in an office it will be harder . I guess i would try now lunch and maybe a snack at 2pm and dinner by 8pm. That would get you 18 hours

Beer = Not Food + Microbiota

Inspired by a couple of comments among other things, with the amount of fad diets out there you could literally promote a radioactive diet, and for many it would improve their health.
www.sciencefocus.com/science/top-10-which-are-the-most-radioactive-foods/

The next two on the list are water and peanut butter

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After the comment about flaxseed oil I decided to try cooking with flaxseeds.
2 cups flaxseeds
1 cup dates
1/2 cup pistachios
1/3 cup honey
1/3 cup yoghurt
1/3 cup choc chips
1 banana
1 egg
1 tbsp cacao
1 tsp vanilla essence
1 tsp cinnamon
1/2 tsp salt
1/3 desicated coconut for dusting

Mix in one bowl

Make balls and dust. Makes 15 or more
Bake for 20 mins- 1/2 an hour
Tastes so good the kids eat itl

It was a comment here that got me started on Brazil nuts for selenium; who even knows if I need it, then I noticed Brazil nuts are super imbalanced in the omega-6, 3 ratio, and most anti-inflammatory dietary advice seems to suggest attempting a balance with reduced omega-6 is a good idea, but then I see this contradictory piece out of Harvard that pushes the blame to saturated fat.
I'm wondering if his study missed an overwhelming confounding factor; could everyone else be wrong and just this one guy is right?
www.health.harvard.edu/newsletter_article/no-need-to-avoid-healthy-omega-6-fats