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jbshack said..

DARTH said..
I've got Goodyear Wranglers on it now, are they any good? The fronts are almost brand new.

If your happy with them, no biggy. The road noise of some tires is unbelievable. I get if your off roading properly, but i actually use the Dunlop standard tires that come out on the Toyotas. They dont wear long, maybe 50000 kms, but the price justifies them. The last set i bought for $500 for 5 brand new of a mates hilux..You can buy those tyres new (removed by dealers because some sucker bought AT's) for around $150 each.

There are definitely better tyres out their, but im getting old and like the quiet..

PS the last time i got bogged was thanks to technology and traction control..Let the tyres down, and nearly all 4wds will walk anywhere, as long as you have the ground clearance..

Cheers mate, you going for a wave on Saturday night?

i run hankook dynapro at's on mine . just put on a new set at 100K on the first set . only got noisy in the last 10K

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dusta said..
i run hankook dynapro at's on mine . just put on a new set at 100K on the first set . only got noisy in the last 10K

They are good quality, how much per tyre?

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DARTH said..

jbshack said..

DARTH said..
I've got Goodyear Wranglers on it now, are they any good? The fronts are almost brand new.

If your happy with them, no biggy. The road noise of some tires is unbelievable. I get if your off roading properly, but i actually use the Dunlop standard tires that come out on the Toyotas. They dont wear long, maybe 50000 kms, but the price justifies them. The last set i bought for $500 for 5 brand new of a mates hilux..You can buy those tyres new (removed by dealers because some sucker bought AT's) for around $150 each.

There are definitely better tyres out their, but im getting old and like the quiet..

PS the last time i got bogged was thanks to technology and traction control..Let the tyres down, and nearly all 4wds will walk anywhere, as long as you have the ground clearance..

Cheers mate, you going for a wave on Saturday night?

Yep thats the plan.

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jbshack said..

DARTH said..

jbshack said..

DARTH said..
I've got Goodyear Wranglers on it now, are they any good? The fronts are almost brand new.

If your happy with them, no biggy. The road noise of some tires is unbelievable. I get if your off roading properly, but i actually use the Dunlop standard tires that come out on the Toyotas. They dont wear long, maybe 50000 kms, but the price justifies them. The last set i bought for $500 for 5 brand new of a mates hilux..You can buy those tyres new (removed by dealers because some sucker bought AT's) for around $150 each.

There are definitely better tyres out their, but im getting old and like the quiet..

PS the last time i got bogged was thanks to technology and traction control..Let the tyres down, and nearly all 4wds will walk anywhere, as long as you have the ground clearance..

Cheers mate, you going for a wave on Saturday night?

Yep thats the plan.

I might come up :)

The only requirement a soft sand tyre has, is the ability to handle low pressures without compromising the wall over time. I've had a few over the years have the sidewalls crack in time.

That and enough volume to allow proper deflation.

Tread pattern makes little difference in the soft stuff.

As a good all round tyre I use Cooper Discoverer A/T3. Awesome tyre.

Technically a good HT with strong walls will perform just as well on sand but I like the ability to handle some harder off road work as well.

I had cooper at3's previously
they were great on the sand and the road, even though the side walls did crack
I still have the last least repaired as a spare
they were terrible on the dirt highways
they'd chip and scallop thread and couldn't handle heat
though saying that
I did learn how to use puncture repair kits in the middle of absolute bumfark nowhere pretty quickly...
between kintore and kunawarritji three out of four at3s punctured, one twice

^^ whoever invented the kit is genius..I do myself 3-4 repairs a year.
A tyre workshop guy told me the kit is banned for use in Australia for some "safety" reason....what a crook.

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theDoctor said..
I had cooper at3's previously

When I was on the mines, my bosses decided to buy "decent tyres" instead of the cheap MRF rag tyres I was using.
So - they bought a heap of coopers, and changed all our tyres over.
must admit - they looked pretty!!

nek minit...

I didn't even make it to smoko before all 4 tyres were shredded.

Gave the boss and fitters a bollocking, friendly chat and got my lovely 7.50" x 16" MRF 16 ply supertraxion's bolted back on,
[although the ruddy OHS kid put his foot down and wouldn't let me have my split rims, so I had to settle for those dodgy sunraysia things]

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DARTH said..

dusta said..
i run hankook dynapro at's on mine . just put on a new set at 100K on the first set . only got noisy in the last 10K

They are good quality, how much per tyre?

i have paid $240 a corner on both sets .

i had cooper at3's on before switching to the hankook. got rid of them after 2000km . Noisy , **** in the wet and dead set dangerous .

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dmitri said..
^^ whoever invented the kit is genius..I do myself 3-4 repairs a year.
A tyre workshop guy told me the kit is banned for use in Australia for some "safety" reason....what a crook.

I got the same story from a tyre place too. They wouldn't repair the tyre I'd self-repaired with the kit. So I drove on it for another 30,000k's checking pressure from time to time, as you do.

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dusta said..

DARTH said..

dusta said..
i run hankook dynapro at's on mine . just put on a new set at 100K on the first set . only got noisy in the last 10K

They are good quality, how much per tyre?

i have paid $240 a corner on both sets .

i had cooper at3's on before switching to the hankook. got rid of them after 2000km . Noisy , **** in the wet and dead set dangerous .

That's not bad, I will see if I can get a good price through work, cheers.

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Marsbars said..
Are you looking for mainly a beach/sand track tyre? I've had a few different models the better traction in the sand usually the more noise and poorer handling on the road if your not after something particularly hard core a good AT tyre will do great but get yourself a set of staun valves (ive never been bogged with tyres at 15-18psi) and a decent 12v compressor to pump up before you get back on the blacktop tyres will last longer and be a lot safer.

Nice rig hilly Back in Black

Not up north in the summer with a f.....d ac

You obviously have never had a toyota best friggin aircons going.

^^^ what a Denso compressor that is only 25% owned by Toyota, and lots of other manufacturers also use the same compressors etc? All fired up with various bits of Mitsubishi Electric componentry?

I would not say only Tojo is good when all the same parts are used in so many cars....

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MikeyS said..

dmitri said..
^^ whoever invented the kit is genius..I do myself 3-4 repairs a year.
A tyre workshop guy told me the kit is banned for use in Australia for some "safety" reason....what a crook.

I got the same story from a tyre place too. They wouldn't repair the tyre I'd self-repaired with the kit. So I drove on it for another 30,000k's checking pressure from time to time, as you do.

I work in the industry and wonder on the tyre regulation over and over. I've seen some repairs on shoulders of tyres that in all fairness should not of been repaired. Some home jobs and some off other shops.

If in the 30plus k you traveled on the tyre you repaired yourself at some point blew out (which can happen) and your car veered off the road and kills little Sam on there push bike. Would you think it fair you be held responsible or the state for not having annual inspections on vehicles ?

We Get it all the time in work where an Audi or bmw car owner (2nd or 3rd generation) buy tyres off the internet to save a few bucks. Tyres will be same size but wrong load and speed rating , our front of house will inform them that I as the owner won't let our staff fit them it's a tricky tricky gig. Yeah we could bang them on the car make a neat 25 a corner probably sell them the wheel alignment and steering angle sensor reset, sell our hours and carry on. Really On the off chance that they blow out or de laminate causing a crash or even if the ****ers fall asleep behind the wheel and smash into a tree I think if we fitted the tyres we could be held somewhat accountable is it wrong thinking like that ? It's mainly people driving over financed cars ticked up to there eyeballs that have the issues.

^^ can I ask what is the correct repair process ?
As far as I know the shops just chuck a tube in......how that for safe driving ?

Dude at beaurepairs just used the same kit I did

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Mark _australia said..
^^^ what a Denso compressor that is only 25% owned by Toyota, and lots of other manufacturers also use the same compressors etc? All fired up with various bits of Mitsubishi Electric componentry?

I would not say only Tojo is good when all the same parts are used in so many cars....

Sorry Mark I got a bit carried away thanks for your explanation and correction of my hyperbole.

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theDoctor said..
I had cooper at3's previously
they were great on the sand and the road, even though the side walls did crack
I still have the last least repaired as a spare
they were terrible on the dirt highways
they'd chip and scallop thread and couldn't handle heat
though saying that
I did learn how to use puncture repair kits in the middle of absolute bumfark nowhere pretty quickly...
between kintore and kunawarritji three out of four at3s punctured, one twice

I did some work at kintore in the eighties, i met nosepeg also, who claimed to know where lasseters lost reef of gold was. They threatened to burn your car if you carried grog. Its very tribal there. They would generally keep driving the car on the flat tyre once they ran out of spares

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theDoctor said..
I had cooper at3's previously
they were great on the sand and the road, even though the side walls did crack
I still have the last least repaired as a spare
they were terrible on the dirt highways
they'd chip and scallop thread and couldn't handle heat
though saying that
I did learn how to use puncture repair kits in the middle of absolute bumfark nowhere pretty quickly...
between kintore and kunawarritji three out of four at3s punctured, one twice

mmm, a few comments on poor dirt capability, I will keep an eye on them.

I don't do much/any dirt stuff. Mainly hwy and sand and I am pretty happy with them for that.

I have a Prado 2014 GXL. Changed the standard Dunlops to Pirrelli Scorpions AT 265/65/17's after about 18 months. Took them camping to Cape Peron, Shark Bay. Seriously sandy but everyone got stuck in the same place (prado and 2 tonne caravan up to the axles). Ran them on the beach. All good. My mate camping with us, who travels all over WA for Telstra and does about 100k's a year, said it's all about the right tyre pressure and I have to agree. I found the Pirrellis were excellent on sand, very quiet on the road but did seem to wear quite quickly, probably more due to my driving style and softer compound.

Then switched to Yoko's 265/75/17 AT light truck version with more aggressive grip and stronger carcass. We were going to Carrarang Station and Useless Loop in SB so really tough corrugated roads. Very happy with their performance on gravel, sand and rocks. Again, getting right tyre pressure key as well as driving style. Defn a bit noisier on the highway than the P's, but I'm happy with the trade off for the extra strength.

Also had dinner with a mate other week whose family owns the pearl farm in SB. He's driven all over the country there and as he said, he'll happily roll forwards and backwards for half an hour to flatten out the sand before driving out if its that bad. Not the tyres, it's the technique.

Read the beach, drive to the conditions, get the pressure right and carry a set of cheap maxtrax off ebay ( I paid $125 for a pair from camping4wd.com.au in Perth and they've been folded over twice by a 2 tonne caravan an only one 3 inch crack that's holding up) and a shovel. That should cover most bases.

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wa881 said..
Read the beach, drive to the conditions, get the pressure right and carry a set of cheap maxtrax off ebay ( I paid $125 for a pair from camping4wd.com.au in Perth and they've been folded over twice by a 2 tonne caravan an only one 3 inch crack that's holding up) and a shovel. That should cover most bases.

+1 for these recovery tracks. I paid $99 for mine when he was operating out of his house in Craigie and in 4 years they have helped in far too many recoveries and have held up fine. Definitely don't need to spend $300 on the maxtrax's

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MDSXR6T said..

wa881 said..
Read the beach, drive to the conditions, get the pressure right and carry a set of cheap maxtrax off ebay ( I paid $125 for a pair from camping4wd.com.au in Perth and they've been folded over twice by a 2 tonne caravan an only one 3 inch crack that's holding up) and a shovel. That should cover most bases.

+1 for these recovery tracks. I paid $99 for mine when he was operating out of his house in Craigie and in 4 years they have helped in far too many recoveries and have held up fine. Definitely don't need to spend $300 on the maxtrax's

and also when helping out retards with no gear and they just floor it on your maxtrax's and melt every part of the board so you have no niblets left :)

^^^ I think anyone who spends $300 on moulded plastic things, with $3 materials in it, that nobody needed years ago, might have been ripped.

If you really feel the need to carry annoying 5ft long things everywhere you go, , weld some flat bar onto mesh. Free...

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Mark _australia said..
^^^ I think anyone who spends $300 on moulded plastic things, with $3 materials in it, that nobody needed years ago, might have been ripped.

If you really feel the need to carry annoying 5ft long things everywhere you go, , weld some flat bar onto mesh. Free...

bread crates with the sides cut off

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wa881 said..
...who travels all over WA for Telstra and does about 100k's a year, said it's all about the right tyre pressure and I have to agree.

He's driven all over the country there and as he said, he'll happily roll forwards and backwards for half an hour to flatten out the sand before driving out if its that bad. Not the tyres, it's the technique.

Read the beach, drive to the conditions, get the pressure right

^This...
I used to do similar kms a year in exploration in WA. Almost all on 7.50x16 Cross plys on Split Rims and probably 80% of that off road.

Get the pressure right, drive to the conditions, pick your lines and there isn't anywhere you cant get to...


Went with a group of friends to a beach to go 4wding - they in fancy Range Rovers, Cruisers, wide tyres, lift kits etc and me in an Base 80 Series on splits and 14 ply cross plys. Whilst airing down there was much taking the wee of "luckily they have their snatch kits" to drag me off the beach with those ridiculous skinny tyres.

We all pull up at the first stop someway down the beach.. much amusement of how I got that far... only to find out I still hadn't put it in 4wd yet. ;)

Leaving the beach via a sandy hill (Whitehills) they all taking run ups and revving the box off it, bouncing around cutting the track up... 2nd gear low range, hand throttle up a bit, let her drive up without touching the pedals.



Best bit was being aired up first as those ridiculous skinny tyres don't need as much air.