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IanR said..
Hi FN
In way of explanation for my statements. UncleBobs first line where he Said "seem to gather in flocks with absolutely no regard for others or any idea of road or pedestrian safety." Reminds me of a lot of the behaviour I see from roadies on shared pathways

If you want to do wheelies or stoppie's or jumps go to empty parking lot or some open park with few people around
If you want to pump out speeds of 40 to 50 kph go to a velodrome or on a road.

Just be considerate of other users
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Yeah, I have mixed feelings about other cyclists. Some are clueless and do dumb things and others seem to be unaware of things around them. Even stopping on pathways there is always the genius that will stop in a clearly stupid place. Meanwhile I drag myself across into an area out of the way. I can't control other cyclists but I want to avoid problems.

It even bugs me at one particular intersection where there are two lanes, one turns left and the other goes straight or right. When you know the phasing of the lights there you know its fine to sneak up infront of the cars on the left because they will not get to turn for quite a while, but it looks bad to other motorists/road users. You hold up no one, but people assume that you will. It gives the public a bad impression even though it is harmless.

Who does wheelies? I have noticed this over here in WA and it seems like some people are stuck in their teen years. Even riding hands-free seems like something you do as a kid but then as an adult there is no need. Still, I do see adults do it like it's a merit badge or somethinge.

My pet hate is idiots that ride up or down the PSP along the freeway in a group ride. Just the 'idiots' as I also ride up and down there in group rides. Most paths are meant to be single-file as they are shared paths, yet you get groups that ride 2 abreast, very fast, and only the guys upfront are really aware of whats up ahead on the path. These are not for training rides as there are plenty of walkers, dogs, slow riders, ebikes, scooters, and anything else. On the road I don't mind this, but not on a PSP.

To show you the other side of the coin though, when groups do go on group rides on the road, and do around 30 to 35 on the flats, other road users get angry. Early on weekend mornings you often get someone that is angry that you have somehow ruined their day by being in a separate lane on a day and time where there is almost no traffic.

I guess you can't win. You just try and not be the idiot where you can.

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Pugwash said..
45-50. that's not the speed of a typical reccie cyclist.

Who said 45/50 was a typical speed? I wish! As I said, it was on a flat section with a strong tailwind. One of those days where you are glad you are going with the wind but know that you are going to have to ride back into it on the way home.... except I was on the way to pickup my car so I got to avoid the headwind too.

It was sort of funny because I was not in normal cycling gear, so they might have assumed it was an ebike because of that as much as anything else. Either that or I was racing away from a break and enter somewhere.

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IanR said..

UncleBob said..
Around here in southern Sydney the kids in their mid teens seem to gather in flocks with absolutely no regard for others or any idea of road or pedestrian safety. I recently came very close to becoming very up close and friendly with three of them doing wheelies and slides in my local pedestrian mall. I admire their obvious skill but mourn their lack of awareness and respect for public spaces.

Wonder whether there parents are road cyclist.
Some people seem to get the idea of social responsibility other not so much.

I can't imagine any road cyclist actively wanting their kids to ride e-bikes. Most likely the opposite.

In my riding around Perth I have seen bogans riding ebikes badly and rich kids riding ebikes badly. I am not sure its a income level thing, but probably similar parenting.

I wonder why I see rich kids riding big fat ebikes along the PSP to expensive schools, but I guess I would too if I had the chance and mum and dad got sick of driving me to school. It wouldn't bug me as much if they even pedalled or stopped looking at their phones for more than a second or two.

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IanR said..
This might help to explain to some of the more conservative minded why we are in this current situation

Loving my pedal assist legal E-MTB with 100Nm of torque, happy with the 25Kph speed limit if the legislation stays the same
My motorbike rarely gets a ride these days

100nm is massive.

I have 8 bikes, 2 roadies, cyclocross, dualie etc etc.

Amongst the 8 are 2 pedal assist e-bikes for commuting. They are the best and fastest way to get around the inner city. More people on e-bikes the better - less peanuts on the road. Obey the law, don't modify the 25km/h max, no problems.

E-bikes are fine, but its only the numpties that you notice overtaking you doing over 30, round a corner, while on the phone. No helmet for a few of them too.

For those that ride responsibility they are great, but for some reason a lot of them want to show they can do high speeds.

I am almost sure that the cops were going to pull me over one day locally for riding an e-bike too fast. They pulled up next to me, but I think they changed their mind when they saw me actually pedalling. To be fair I was doing about 45/50, on a flat section with a hefty tail-wind. It wasn't an e-bike but I can understand why they might have thought it was. Little do they know that the locals ride e-bikes with thongs on, not cycling shoes.... (Maybe they saw the lack of tatts and wearing shoes and then changed their mind?)