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excav8ter said..I am primarily using the i84 for wingfoiling. I don't know why people say they are so slow. I am a relative beginner at wingfoiling and don't have a problem keeping up with guys running different brand foils that are smaller. They may be faster over all, but when we're all out there together having fun, no one is really measuring speed.

I started kite foiling on the SS Spaceskate wing and thought it felt slow as it was such a thick foil, changed to the SS Apollo wing and what a change. Winging on the Infinity 84 feels like this all over again, really can feel the drag with such a thick foil...
Agreed, its all about the stoke and the only reason I mentioned it was slow is because I think there are alot of benefits fron a quicker foil. Foils have developed alot over the past few years, unfortunately SS hover glide system has not kept up, believe the current infinity models such as the I99 and i84 came out in 2018. Correct me if Im wrong but SS have not introduced a new wing for the HG system since then and have not developed Wingding specific foil. The wings were developed for surf and sup. The infinity foils such as the i99 and i84 are low aspect foils whereas winging specifc foils are moving towards mid to high mid aspect.
Again, im talking about the affordable hover glide system, not the high end aka expensive, phantasm system.