Anyone tried? Specifically thinking of kiting boards, my 90cm Axis Tray may be a step too far, but this guy kinda got me thinking it might be a go in cranking conditions!

IMO volume makes more of a difference than length. My 4"0 x 44L ppc is marginally easier to get on foil than my 4"4 Rocket wing x 32L. I also have a 3"10 27L board I ride on occasion. The difference is nominal between them all.
You don't even need nuking conditions in honesty. Moment I have my rocket wing on the surface I know im getting on foil - It displaces well. My 4"0 was a 85% chance on getting on foil in the light; everything else is guaranteed.
Plain and simple - size up in wing. You will get up very easy. You will want a bigger wing until you have your starts perfect, then use whatever you want. Don't be afraid to use big wings, in the light go as big as you can get - think 7-8m. Moderate wind 5-6 and when >20knots a 4.5.

Nice, the tray is probably around 10L so might be an interesting experiment. time to find some footstraps i guess!

www.instagram.com/reel/CpcSkZ8uAmB/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY%3D

Haha cool! Is that Greg from BRM? I didn't even know they were making wings now.

(edit, i see its not, i don't know how to work insta...)

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CH3MTR4IL5 said..
Haha cool! Is that Greg from BRM? I didn't even know they were making wings now.

(edit, i see its not, i don't know how to work insta...)

Greg is up to version 2 or 3 now.

The version 1 wings are great !!! They have survived three years now.

How do you get back if the wind dies?

swimming

I am riding relatively small boards in medium to strong winds. I'm 82/83 kg and use a 4'0 27 liter board. I would not consider this really small, but small enough to enjoy the benefits. I do ride with straps. Starting, I would push the board under and place feet in straps. When a gust comes I push up and pump on foil.

As soon as conditions become a bit warmer I'm planning to try deep water starting a 3'7 sub 9 liter board. Estimating winds need to be quite significant to pull that off. Will report back when I had the chance and was successful at it.

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Jeroensurf said..
swimming

What, dragging a board and a wing? Or do you just abandon the kit?

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GasHazard said..

Jeroensurf said..
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What, dragging a board and a wing? Or do you just abandon the kit?

Sinker does not mean negatively buoyant - they still float. You just paddle like you would normally if the wind dies. Nothing unique to it

I,m 95-97kg with a full hooded suit probably a 100kg+? and on my 56l board I can slog back sitting and when the wind completely dies prone paddle back, dragging the wing. That is not unique but also not as small as the vid of BRM with the Tray.

With an 10l board like the Tray I would simply sink to deep to prone paddle it, so indeed swimming and pushing the board.

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CH3MTR4IL5 said..
Anyone tried? Specifically thinking of kiting boards, my 90cm Axis Tray may be a step too far, but this guy kinda got me thinking it might be a go in cranking conditions!

This is with < 12L 500cm2 front wing

At what volume can a person sink the board to start from standing under water rather than stinkbug? Seems like that would be more stable in chop compared to stinkbug on something small.

seems to be less than half your weight.With a 10L board with foils...if water is very choppy, it is really hard to swim it back it kind slide under your chest.

I've had to swim in with the axis tray and a drowned foil kite on more than one occasion - without the foil kite in the way I wouldn't think it would be too bad, frog kick and the board is like a kickboard, wing behind you.

Anyway it looks like i definitely have to try it. i'll probably start with a bigger foil than you did though James!

I know its not really necessary but seeing as i have the board already... plus this seems a nicer way to jump rather than having a chunky board dangling from your feet, although I guess sticking the landing is a challenge...

what are the benefits of a small, sinker board? Is jumping better?

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Dcharlton said..
what are the benefits of a small, sinker board? Is jumping better?

You can jump without straps ! :)

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Dcharlton said..
what are the benefits of a small, sinker board? Is jumping better?

So far did not find any good reason. For learning if you have done some wake surf or wakeboard behind a boat, it's a good way to start and learn with a "pocket board" behind the boat, same kind of start. I'm not a pro, I do jump...and I don't see a benefit also while winging and jumping. It's really cool on my instagram feed however!!! ;))))