I've had a few attemps at the upwind 360 whipped ?si=7LKL5YHsLgBJeZ9V but I get pulled off the board during the wing whip every time. That video says to sheet out with the back hand if that happens, but that hasn't seemed to make any difference in my attempts. Does anyone have any tips on how to whip the wing through?

Is the backwinded version of the U360 easier or harder?

This is the trick that i have been focusing last sessions so i can share couple of observations. For me this was way harder to learn that i thought. I have not crashed this much for years, since i started wingfoiling. I would say that even jumping fs360 was easier to learn because once you start jumping rotation, you easily have momentum to go through.

Hardest part is to keep your momentum forward. I have to attack it with full speed to be able to go all the way around through the wind.

For me most important points were:
- full speed and fast foil
- keep your momentum and weight forward
- most important: delay passing the wing through the wind. If i did it too early, wind catches wing wrong way and results crash

Really helpful was practicing on land how to push wing through the wind in different positions.

I watched that same duotone tutorial and was wondering same back hand thing. I think it is not important to focus on. I think that there is much better tutorials around for example this: ?si=jhCUKo4cJK3gskMa

Thanks for the tips! I'll have to try it on the weekend.
I'll try to twist the body more to delay the wing whip like it describes in that video.

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This is the trick that i have been focusing last sessions so i can share couple of observations. For me this was way harder to learn that i thought. I have not crashed this much for years, since i started wingfoiling. I would say that even jumping fs360 was easier to learn because once you start jumping rotation, you easily have momentum to go through.

Hardest part is to keep your momentum forward. I have to attack it with full speed to be able to go all the way around through the wind.

For me most important points were:
- full speed and fast foil
- keep your momentum and weight forward
- most important: delay passing the wing through the wind. If i did it too early, wind catches wing wrong way and results crash

Really helpful was practicing on land how to push wing through the wind in different positions.

I watched that same duotone tutorial and was wondering same back hand thing. I think it is not important to focus on. I think that there is much better tutorials around for example this:

?si=jhCUKo4cJK3gskMa

So that backwinded upwind 360 by Glenn and Damo is definitely different than the Duotone upwind 360 whipped. But they both have similar challenges. I've tried both briefly and I'm getting thrown off the back like Nakita as well.
I think my approach to getting past either of these moves is gonna be a little different than "full speed and fast foil". Who knows whether it will work or not. I'd rather be well underpowered (in a lull) and build as much apparent speed as possible. When I head upwind and loose speed there less net wind to throw me off the back of the board as I come around. I'll probably come off foil once around but as long as I complete the spin/move I don't care. Gets the muscle memory going. I almost completed a a couple that way. Then I can work on staying up on foil in a wee bit more wind

One thing I don't like about "pro" how to videos. They always just show the finished fine tuned result and not the messy learning process along the way. Show me the unglamorous mess along the way and I'll learn faster. Show me someone not at a pro level learning these moves. Much more helpful

We had perfect light wind this afternoon to practice the U360. The tips 2 and 3 from Winger12 are spot on. Today I was going in with the intention of getting backwinded and even though I could never get properly backwinded, it helped me delay the wing whip. Basically I stopped trying to force the whip and that delayed it enough to actually work. I was coming off the foil about half way, but I stayed on the board a few times all the way around and sailed away from it. Then the wind picked up to about 15 - 17kts and I couldn't do it at all. Too much power in the rig for my low U360 skills. I was on a 5.5m wing.
Perfect wind for me was 12kts. Just barely enough to get going.