I am currently out of action with shoulder damage, mostly wear and tear and I am interested to know (and you can DM me if needed) the following:

1. Has anyone winging had a shoulder replacement ? (that appears to be where I am heading)

2. Has anyone rehabilitated from a complete thickness tear of the supraspinstus and damage to surrounding ligaments?

Try general forum as with all the other sports here, similar questions have been answered by wind/kite surfing physios and docs.

I've had shoulder problems from winging for a few months after overdoing it in some big winter storms. First the one shoulder but lately also the other.
Have just started seeing a physio and initial indications are rotator cuff injury - have been given a few exercises to try would be interested to know how yours was diagnosed - imaging or process of elimination with physio?

Recently started using a harness which removes some strain, but constant pumping of the wing exacerbates the shoulder pain. What symptoms were you having?

Thanks

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makesurf said..
I am currently out of action with shoulder damage, mostly wear and tear and I am interested to know (and you can DM me if needed) the following:

1. Has anyone winging had a shoulder replacement ? (that appears to be where I am heading)

2. Has anyone rehabilitated from a complete thickness tear of the supraspinstus and damage to surrounding ligaments?

Hi makesurf, i' m an orthopedic surgeon, specialized in foot and ankle surgery, my colleagues do shoulder surgery incl. total replacement. I'm 55yo, 44y windurfing, 3 y winging and really on fire for this.
1. Winging with shoulder problems is not ideal, but possible ( I suffer from osetoarthritis in both ACJ)
2. You should try to avoid surgery as long as posdible, do exercises for the infraspinatus and subscapularis muscle
3. try to use a harnest
4. Is there really no chance to do a reconstruction of your rotator cuff? How many surgeons did You see?
5. I saw some really good results after total shoulder replacement of my colleague, incl. one doing semiprof. archery after surgery.

So don't give up
Best regards

Rotator cuff tears are very common. Typical management for full thickness tears, especially degenerative, is progressive rehabilitation and full recovery is generally around 6 months. Surgery doesn't provide superior outcomes to rehabilitation alonejournals.lww.com/jbjsjournal/abstract/2015/11040/treatment_of_nontraumatic_rotator_cuff_tears__a.1.aspx

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Sc3rt said..
Rotator cuff tears are very common. Typical management for full thickness tears, especially degenerative, is progressive rehabilitation and full recovery is generally around 6 months. Surgery doesn't provide superior outcomes to rehabilitation

My rotator cuff is old and a bit damaged but it is not the problem.
I read the article and it is consistent with the advice I have been given, thank you
I however, have torn two muscles that hold the shoulder in place.
The surgeon can't repair it and a replacement is recommended
So what I am doing is all the physio that prepares for that operation without committing to the op at this stage.
There is a chance that I might be able to function without the op.
Time will tell.

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makesurf said..
I am currently out of action with shoulder damage, mostly wear and tear and I am interested to know (and you can DM me if needed) the following:

1. Has anyone winging had a shoulder replacement ? (that appears to be where I am heading)

2. Has anyone rehabilitated from a complete thickness tear of the supraspinstus and damage to surrounding ligaments?

Maybe some comfort
im 63
had both shoulders repaired over the years
have re torn supersundos right shoulder second time
can't be repaired
i just deal with it, very weak the right shoulder
I can still prone foil small waves
Kite surf and now hooked on winging

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makesurf said..

Sc3rt said..
Rotator cuff tears are very common. Typical management for full thickness tears, especially degenerative, is progressive rehabilitation and full recovery is generally around 6 months. Surgery doesn't provide superior outcomes to rehabilitation

My rotator cuff is old and a bit damaged but it is not the problem.
I read the article and it is consistent with the advice I have been given, thank you
I however, have torn two muscles that hold the shoulder in place.
The surgeon can't repair it and a replacement is recommended
So what I am doing is all the physio that prepares for that operation without committing to the op at this stage.
There is a chance that I might be able to function without the op.
Time will tell.

Sounds like you're on the right trackMy advice would be to persist with physio for as long as possible, and consider that the recovery can be 6-12 months non op, and typically the same if not longer post op, with no garuantees an operation would give you greater pain relief or function. Worth discussing with your physio how to manage symptoms around foiling and winging, they may be able to give you some management strategies and advice to stay on the water. Helps if they are familiar with foiling

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Mark _australia said..
Try general forum as with all the other sports here, similar questions have been answered by wind/kite surfing physios and docs.

Mark,
Thank you, I did that and learnt things.
But my question to this forum was meant to be winging-specific.
Does a replacement shoulder provide adequate range. I had heard that you lose some range.
At the time of posting I was also wanting to reduce the amount of time I would be out of the water