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Piros
Piros
QLD
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7 Apr 2026 10:50am
I've gone in head first . With great wind over Easter I did 4 days straight , can now get up both ways can sort of jibe . Last session logged 13km on foil (Calm water) can point well up wind and switch. I'm on a Frigate 4m & Sunova 6-3 x 21 x 94 L , I'm going to swap the board for a Axis mini Dart 6-4 x 20.5 x 100L it's over all just an easier board to stand/chug/start on ( I'm 87kg). Our wind is pretty sh!t here and I worked out pretty quickly having just one Para I will loose water time (and swear heaps more) due to the Para's small wind range. So my question is what to add to my quiver keep in mind this is for the fastest progression . I'll redo my kit including the board once I become a component Para winger. I'm thinking adding a F-One Quest 3 & 5m to my 4m Frigate . Appreciate you thoughts. Plus don't have a harness the new Manera looks the goods to me . Hopefully do first ocean DW this weekend.
hilly
hilly
WA
8120 posts
WA, 8120 posts
7 Apr 2026 10:02am
Piros said..
I've gone in head first . With great wind over Easter I did 4 days straight , can now get up both ways can sort of jibe . Last session logged 13km on foil (Calm water) can point well up wind and switch. I'm on a Frigate 4m & Sunova 6-3 x 21 x 94 L , I'm going to swap the board for a Axis mini Dart 6-4 x 20.5 x 100L it's over all just an easier board to stand/chug/start on ( I'm 87kg). Our wind is pretty sh!t here and I worked out pretty quickly having just one Para I will loose water time (and swear heaps more) due to the Para's small wind range. So my question is what to add to my quiver keep in mind this is for the fastest progression . I'll redo my kit including the board once I become a component Para winger. I'm thinking adding a F-One Quest 3 & 5m to my 4m Frigate . Appreciate you thoughts. Plus don't have a harness the new Manera looks the goods to me . Hopefully do first ocean DW this weekend.



I have the Manera harness it is good, not as easy to stash as the Ozone but super comfortable upwind. Had a fly of a Quest on the beach felt nice but I am happy with my 2.5/3.5/4.7 Frigates.

Next wangs depend on what you want to do. Upwind/downwind consider a 777 Hybrid or Frigate V2 coming soon apparantly. Downwind mainly go the Quest. The wind range improves with your skills over time.
Piros
Piros
QLD
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7 Apr 2026 12:23pm
Cheers Hilly and yeah stashed DW is my goal .
BWalnut
BWalnut
WA
1160 posts
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7 Apr 2026 11:06am
Welcome to the next addiction!

If DW is your focus then any of the DW designed paras are great. I think the power pack sounds awesome but I don't ever downwind myself.

If you have a wing harness you like, wearing that fixed in place and buying an ozone stash belt to swing around is the best setup IMO.
airsail
airsail
QLD
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7 Apr 2026 1:36pm
Definitely go the 3 Rob, as for a 5 it will get you on the water but for us up here on the bay there isn't much swell in light conditions so the 4-4.5 is the go to. Para for me starts at 17knots, any less it is just an annoying pump fest downwind and the FD is a better option. Good that you can ride both ways, so many can't and it hurts their upwind.
hilly
hilly
WA
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7 Apr 2026 12:30pm
airsail said..Good that you can ride both ways, so many can't and it hurts their upwind.


That's funny Hooked in I can ride upwind so well. Easily better than wingers. Lean out with one hand on the bar harness swings way round stand straight and have a ball.
Piros
Piros
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7 Apr 2026 3:07pm
airsail said..
Good that you can ride both ways, so many can't and it hurts their upwind.

Thanks everyone and yeah really strange my first ever attempt on the Para I got up switch on my first reach , chugged for about 150m then boom. I haven't dinged for apx 1.5 years but could always start just as easy switch on the ding as well. I also found 15 to17 kn was my absolute minimum to start on the 4m Frigate. I just went to SurFfx and changed the board again to an Armstrong mid length 6-9 x 22 x 100L just for even more stability until I get this wired. I know it's very early days but trying to balance and pump up the board in light wind so fxxcking hard. Hilly no Maneras in the shop so I'll just grab a Ozone stash belt.
simonp
simonp
215 posts
215 posts
7 Apr 2026 1:49pm
I've just bought a Frigate 4m second-hand but so far it's been really gusty when it's windy enough. How do you get up when the parawing doesn't have steady pull?
Microsurfer
Microsurfer
215 posts
215 posts
7 Apr 2026 2:15pm
simonp said..
I've just bought a Frigate 4m second-hand but so far it's been really gusty when it's windy enough. How do you get up when the parawing doesn't have steady pull?


You don't. You just swear at the fricking thing & whoever designed the stupid things then go in & pump up the wing to save the session. If you don't get that magical 16-20 knots the 4 (4.3) is a pain in the arse. I love my PW for the 3-4 sessions each season when the conditions line up. I hate my PW for the other 1000 sessions they don't.
airsail
airsail
QLD
1598 posts
QLD, 1598 posts
7 Apr 2026 4:32pm
hilly said..


airsail said..Good that you can ride both ways, so many can't and it hurts their upwind.




That's funny Hooked in I can ride upwind so well. Easily better than wingers. Lean out with one hand on the bar harness swings way round stand straight and have a ball.



You should come over east and give some of our non switchers a lesson, their upwind while riding switch is pitiful. And watching their attempts to get going in anything but strong wind is comical.
drc13
drc13
NSW
182 posts
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7 Apr 2026 6:01pm
Welcome to the club, it's a fun one!

I'm pretty happy with the new ozone harness (the one with a bit extra padding and included hook and knife vs the belt) My hand was kind of forced as the belt doesn't tighten enough for my waist but the xs/s harness does. Was hooked in with it the other day and it's plenty comfy and still very light weight.

I'm also now using a F-One Quest 4m and enjoying it. Doesn't seem to have a whole lot of downsides (unless you want cutting edge VMG) and is a fair bit simpler to fly/manage.

I'll be adding a 2.5m or 3m (unsure as 3m would suit Sydney but I'm off to Hood in July where the 2.5 would be better)

For lighter winds than my 4m would handle I'd still just rather wing.
hilly
hilly
WA
8120 posts
WA, 8120 posts
7 Apr 2026 4:24pm
airsail said..


hilly said..




airsail said..Good that you can ride both ways, so many can't and it hurts their upwind.






That's funny Hooked in I can ride upwind so well. Easily better than wingers. Lean out with one hand on the bar harness swings way round stand straight and have a ball.





You should come over east and give some of our non switchers a lesson, their upwind while riding switch is pitiful. And watching their attempts to get going in anything but strong wind is comical.



I get the same angles both ways. I do not switch as I ride waves coming in on toeside. Painful to switch before getting on the wave which I did for years riding strapless kiting.

Edit better angles here




Piros
Piros
QLD
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7 Apr 2026 8:26pm
simonp said..
I've just bought a Frigate 4m second-hand but so far it's been really gusty when it's windy enough. How do you get up when the parawing doesn't have steady pull?





Nice runs Hilly , I'll stop switching once I get my heel side balance sorted , I keep getting yanked off the board .

Simon:- That's where you need bigger board that's easier to stand on to regain your balance when the Para rips around . Another piece of advice which I ignored spend more time on land practice flying it in both surfing stance . There's a lot of wrist control involved, I'll let the other lads on here to explain better than me . I found the wind range for the 4m Frigate 15 to 20 any less can't start any more still can't start getting ripped off the board . Try and find calmer water and cleaner wind , that alone helps so much and yeah a bigger wider board to learn starts .

DRC :- I like the look of the Quest and looking at going 3.5 & 4.5 for now . This time of year on the Gold Coast our wind is pretty hit and miss and gusty AF which makes it tuff on the Para , as I improve I'll keep tuning my gear . My goal as well is Hood in Sept for the AWSI & can only imagine what the 2027 gear will be .Thats why I want to be Para proficient this time round .
Sheps
Sheps
WA
145 posts
WA, 145 posts
7 Apr 2026 7:33pm
airsail said..

hilly said..



airsail said..Good that you can ride both ways, so many can't and it hurts their upwind.





That's funny Hooked in I can ride upwind so well. Easily better than wingers. Lean out with one hand on the bar harness swings way round stand straight and have a ball.




You should come over east and give some of our non switchers a lesson, their upwind while riding switch is pitiful. And watching their attempts to get going in anything but strong wind is comical.


Not sure how long you've been parawinging but it's not like winging in that you can go upwind really well toeside but you need more skill and not everyone can do it. Getting up toeside is really useful too, the alignment of the body holding the wing in your front hand is excellent for pumping the board, better than riding healside in a lot of conditions ..you should try it if you can ride toeside well enough ??
eppo
eppo
WA
9789 posts
WA, 9789 posts
7 Apr 2026 8:16pm
I switch on the wing but it all goes to **** on the para so I don’t bother. As hilly said (and the harness is necessary) i can track pretty good upwind but thats from 20 years of kiting Insuppose. But ultimately switching would be best but hey ….



Well done piros !! We got a couple of 18km surprise april runs today - gotta enjoy them whilst we can !
baldy123
baldy123
WA
458 posts
WA, 458 posts
7 Apr 2026 8:35pm
I find the 3.6m ozone the sweet size for my weight at 88kg in moderate to strong wind. Used in 20-35knots. ozone, Fone or 777 seem to be parawings of choice. quite a lot of cool kids here in WA are using 5m powerpack for downwind get up and stow. But on very small boards and foils. I think if you are venturing far offshore, then always have a backup plan B. Paddle or extra parawing. I've had a few sessions saved by having a paddle to get up in light wind or get another wing when I birds nested it into a ball of knots. Spare para in dry bag is the way to go. Stays dry and hardly notice it on your back.
airsail
airsail
QLD
1598 posts
QLD, 1598 posts
8 Apr 2026 6:00am
Sheps said..

airsail said..


hilly said..




airsail said..Good that you can ride both ways, so many can't and it hurts their upwind.






That's funny Hooked in I can ride upwind so well. Easily better than wingers. Lean out with one hand on the bar harness swings way round stand straight and have a ball.





You should come over east and give some of our non switchers a lesson, their upwind while riding switch is pitiful. And watching their attempts to get going in anything but strong wind is comical.



Not sure how long you've been parawinging but it's not like winging in that you can go upwind really well toeside but you need more skill and not everyone can do it. Getting up toeside is really useful too, the alignment of the body holding the wing in your front hand is excellent for pumping the board, better than riding healside in a lot of conditions ..you should try it if you can ride toeside well enough ??


I can ride toeside or heelside, I can also switch feet easily on a wing or para. I just find it more comfortable riding heelside on a long upwind leg where you spend 10 minutes or more tracking upwind on that tack.

If I’m just riding close in I often don’t switch as your on the tack for such a short time.
drc13
drc13
NSW
182 posts
NSW, 182 posts
8 Apr 2026 6:29am
Piros said..

DRC :- I like the look of the Quest and looking at going 3.5 & 4.5 for now . This time of year on the Gold Coast our wind is pretty hit and miss and gusty AF which makes it tuff on the Para , as I improve I'll keep tuning my gear . My goal as well is Hood in Sept for the AWSI & can only imagine what the 2027 gear will be .Thats why I want to be Para proficient this time round .


3.5 and 4.5 combo would be really nice too! Yeah sadly the wind season has really slowed down on the east coast (surf has been fun though!)

Frigate 2 and Pocket Rocket 2 (and hopefully armstrong release something) will all be steps up but as I say to anyone on the fence about parawinging, all the current releases are more than good enough to learn all the basics and then some. Getting in now is still a head start over the majority of the crew and the progress and learnings will continue to carry over to future gear. It's really nice to have another new challenge presented by foiling, some terribly frustrating sessions but when it goes right it's so worth it.

Just about putting the time in whenever the conditions present themselves in this tricky season, I don't think I'll be as far along as I'd like to be by July but I'll have no excuses for conditions in hood!
hilly
hilly
WA
8120 posts
WA, 8120 posts
8 Apr 2026 6:04am
Even if conditions are less than ideal you build the para handling skills, balance and timing needed to progress. So when the wind is better it can all click.
Ioz
Ioz
WA
495 posts
Ioz Ioz
WA, 495 posts
8 Apr 2026 1:57pm
I think it is easy to underestimate the need to get the basics down including changing tack and para control before venturing out on hardcore ocean downwinders,
Sure, it can be one, but one wrong move and you will have a para mare out there.
For myself (and i understand we all go about it different ways) have really enjoyed my time on flat water practicing the basics being various transitions and general para winging handling which is different from all other forms of sailing I have done.
Pleasantly surprised how much fun and how technical this Parawing journey is and looking forward to some ocean downwinders and wave riding.
FoilWays
FoilWays
186 posts
186 posts
9 Apr 2026 12:39am
Hey Rob, I'm starting my journey too... so I'm right alongside... at the other end of the world. I wing a lot, and I'm comfortable switch (from all the years of kite and windsurf). While riding switch, I can also gybe, flag out, ride swell, and pump (somewhat), so I'm hoping all this helps. I went with a POW 4m, because even with the long line complaints, I'll be doing a lot of freeriding in lighter winds, so I think it's a great place to start... specially given the current price on those.
pitbulldoug
pitbulldoug
198 posts
198 posts
9 Apr 2026 11:42am
Rob I have the 4m frigate as well and agree 17kts needed for it pretty much,a suggestion would be to use a DW style board with a good sized wing underwater and if wind is crappy this time of year get a 5.5 frigate definitely helps me at 100 kgs Lol but a DW board gets up much easier in marginal conditions giving more quality time to tune things in.food for thought
Piros
Piros
QLD
7296 posts
QLD, 7296 posts
9 Apr 2026 4:50pm
Again thanks for all the tips . This is the board I picked up yesterday from SurfFx . Armie mid length 100L (6'9 x 22" x 5") I think it'll be perfect .








wsurfn
wsurfn
99 posts
99 posts
10 Apr 2026 3:36am
I own this board. It is my wing board at 110kg that I picked up after riding it in the spring of last year, and I love it. It is great at getting going early, so I think it will be perfect for your early parawinging board. I am a couple of months into learning PW, and have a '24 Armie DW that is 18 liters over my weight I picked up recently to make learning easy, especially in light gusty winds. The Frigate is very stable when overpowered and goes upwind great.
Piros
Piros
QLD
7296 posts
QLD, 7296 posts
10 Apr 2026 6:56pm
All set for tomorrow, first DW attempt just hope wind holds.


drc13
drc13
NSW
182 posts
NSW, 182 posts
11 Apr 2026 4:29pm
Piros said..
All set for tomorrow, first DW attempt just hope wind holds.




what size did you go on the quests?

If you can I'd recommend taking both of them out on the water with you (one in a stash belt another in a backpack)
Pasquales
Pasquales
210 posts
210 posts
11 Apr 2026 10:58pm
Was surprised by the grunt of a 5.5m Frigate. It yanked my 90kgs off the water in 12-15 knots. Using a 95 L Sunova Carver (6'2"x20") picked up used. Felt over powered and had to lean hard on the foil hard. But it was really fun riding one handed. Let's see how session 2 goes, with HA 980 foil.
drc13
drc13
NSW
182 posts
NSW, 182 posts
12 Apr 2026 3:35pm
Got to test the absolute top end of the F-One Quest 4m today

25kn gusting to 33kn. At 70kg I was holding on for dear life and it wasn't pretty but to it's credit it stayed pretty composed flying purely of the A's and still got me upwind when needed.

Seeming like a pretty decent parawing so far!
Piros
Piros
QLD
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12 Apr 2026 7:03pm
I swapped my 4m Frigate for the Quest 3.5 & 4.5 unfortunately in that photo the wind only got to 10 to 14 and that's been it for wind since then . I chugged for an hour with the 4.5 . I got so so close a few times but just couldn't quite hold the launch . The Quest for me was way way easier to fly than the Frigate I could almost park it . Good example I could hold 2 Quest in one hand .
airsail
airsail
QLD
1598 posts
QLD, 1598 posts
13 Apr 2026 4:56am
Piros said..
I swapped my 4m Frigate for the Quest 3.5 & 4.5 unfortunately in that photo the wind only got to 10 to 14 and that's been it for wind since then . I chugged for an hour with the 4.5 . I got so so close a few times but just couldn't quite hold the launch . The Quest for me was way way easier to fly than the Frigate I could almost park it . Good example I could hold 2 Quest in one hand .



That’s where a longer narrow board really helps when learning, gets to foiling speed easily. Most on the bay up here are on DW boards, especially learning, a real session saver and the DW boys use them for safety, never know when the wind might back off a bit.

And putting the FD on to get you up and foiling works well, but not on an Armstrong board.
drc13
drc13
NSW
182 posts
NSW, 182 posts
13 Apr 2026 6:49am
Piros said..
I swapped my 4m Frigate for the Quest 3.5 & 4.5 unfortunately in that photo the wind only got to 10 to 14 and that's been it for wind since then . I chugged for an hour with the 4.5 . I got so so close a few times but just couldn't quite hold the launch . The Quest for me was way way easier to fly than the Frigate I could almost park it . Good example I could hold 2 Quest in one hand .


Haha that's the classic new to parawing routine, frothing and going out in the wrong conditions. I've always been a "just send it and you'll learn something from the session" kind of guy but with parawing especially the early stages you're really just best waiting for the right conditions (say a steady 18kn). In the right wind range it's actually "not that hard" in the wrong wind conditions it can be hugely frustrating.
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