I was lucky enough to trial the Sabfoil Razor Pro Kit yesterday. Here are my key takeaways for anyone considering this foil or looking for a foil for fast free ride, exciting downwinders or carving waves at high speeds.
The first thing you'll notice is the build quality and weight. The mast, fuse, wings and hardware have all been designed with stiffness and strength in mind, whilst optimising weight. You can really feel this light weight design on the water. I have been using the Razor Pro 825 front wing with the F652P fuse, the Flat 325 stab and the 86 Piuma High Modulus mast. For a 746cm2 wing it was surprisingly easy to get onto the foil in 13knts of wind on a 5.5m wing with just a few pumps. Once on the foil, the apparent wind and the glide keeps you going through the lulls. A few pumps through lightwind gybes keeps you easily on the foil. As well as the amazing glide, I was impressed by the quick carving speeds and tight angles. This makes it really fun and fast for playing around in smaller waves. I found that the mast felt less "draggy" than the M83K mast that I've been using so far and the acceleration considerably faster. Upwind and downwind angles felt good and it was easy to lock the foil in to drive upwind as speed. So far, no negatives. I will post more info after testing in stronger winds.

To add to Ben's review, I've been riding the Razor pro kit for over a couple of months now and although excited by its arrival, I had it pegged as a high performance surf foil for bigger waves and towing in. It wasn't until I tried it downwinding which is my main (see only) Jam, that I found out there is much more to this beautiful little weapon. The high modulus carbon madt and all the Titanium fittings gives increased strength and stiffness whilst reducing weight. The weight came off of the thickness of the chord. This is a very thin (fast and low drag) mast which when coupled to the thin profile of the Razor Pro 875 and 325 flat stab gives absolutely unparalleled speed and incredibly low drag which offer me, the downwinder, insane glide and speed with incredibly snappy fast turns that don't seem to dissipate the glide.My almost 100kg has been searching for a foil that would glide like the lightweights riders and happy to say, I've finally found it. I can glide (with the odd couple of pumps now and then to overtake a wave in front) almost the entire downwind run without engaging the wing. In fact, on one particular wing I got shoulder cramps from holding the wing above my head for so long so I could see for the whole run. So impressive is this foil that although SABFoil have added a larger Razor Pro front wing, but i'm questioning whether in fact it will offer me anything more than the 875 does already. This is truly a work of art and design that is so good, it needs to be ridden to truly appreciate it. DM ??

I'm curious about the area on this and how it compares with the Medusa?

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Grantmac said..
I'm curious about the area on this and how it compares with the Medusa?

Which Medusa?

You can find the technical details and compare these with other models at sabfoil's page: sabfoil.com/en/compare

What is the low end like of the 975 + 875?

I currently have the 780 and 980. The 980 is great for SUP foil and ultra lightwind winging with a DW board. I'd like something with good low end but a bit turnier than the 980.

So either the 880, 875 or 975. I'm thinking that the 880 is the way to go, but maybe one of the Pro's might have that low-end I'm after. I would have thought that the 975 is equivalent to an 880, but won't turn as well?

ps I just saw one of the new Armstrong HA's, and they are a very close copy of the normal Razors, with their high-lift cambered profile.

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BritWinger said..
What is the low end like of the 975 + 875?

I currently have the 780 and 980. The 980 is great for SUP foil and ultra lightwind winging with a DW board. I'd like something with good low end but a bit turnier than the 980.

So either the 880, 875 or 975. I'm thinking that the 880 is the way to go, but maybe one of the Pro's might have that low-end I'm after. I would have thought that the 975 is equivalent to an 880, but won't turn as well?

ps I just saw one of the new Armstrong HA's, and they are a very close copy of the normal Razors, with their high-lift cambered profile.

Can't talk to the 875 but the 825 has an amazingly low stall speed for the size of the wing and an incredible low end. I'm 78kg and I can get going in 13knts on a 5.5m Unit

Another test of this set up in slightly stronger conditions. Amazing glide and very responsive. You can really feel the lighter weight of the set up under your feet. I would strongly recommend hitting up your local dealer for a test run. I have now added the 825 to my quiver. Thanks to Action Sports WA for letting me try several options to ensure I made the right choice for me. #Superstars.

Any feedback on the old razor (820) vs the pro?

Thanks for the reviews. New sabfoil Reviews Hard to come by. I placed an order for the RP 875/975 and 86 piuma a few weeks back. Hoping to get the foils here in USA before summer starts. Keep this thread alive with more feedback.

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Rolavi said..
Thanks for the reviews. New sabfoil Reviews Hard to come by. I placed an order for the RP 875/975 and 86 piuma a few weeks back. Hoping to get the foils here in USA before summer starts. Keep this thread alive with more feedback.

Excellent. Keen to hear your impressions

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NicoDC said..
Any feedback on the old razor (820) vs the pro?

I haven't tried the old one but spoken to someone who has and night and day from a performance perspective. The pro finish makes a huge difference.

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BenMaz said..

NicoDC said..
Any feedback on the old razor (820) vs the pro?

I haven't tried the old one but spoken to someone who has and night and day from a performance perspective. The pro finish makes a huge difference.

Just the finish, or the new Pro version with thinner profile?

Had a quick go on a M86 Piuma with WRP975 two weeks ago. Fell in love immediately ;-). Had been thinking about switching to the Piuma-range because I just like to ride swell and wave, both winging and with a DW-foilsup. And my Kraken mast were either too short or too long (haha).

Pulled the trigger and ordered the M76 Piuma with WRP975. That kit comes with f652 fuselage and 2 stabilisers (s380pf and s325pf). Also ordered the WRP825.
Yesterday went out with the WRP825. Was amazed how easy I could get going (I'm over 40 and over 85kgs) and how well I could keep going in the tricky conditions. Only issue I had was battling the current. Had to ride upwind in-and-out. But, in hip deep water I could hardly stay on my feet due to that current.
Today bit less windy so took the WRP975. I had heaps of fun. It's fast enough to keep up with the wind swell and turns well enough to ride the breaking waves. Pumps way better than the W945 I have been riding for over a year.
The M76 seems long enough for winging, is fast and stiff.

Me happy!

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FlyingPeew said..
Had a quick go on a M86 Piuma with WRP975 two weeks ago. Fell in love immediately ;-). Had been thinking about switching to the Piuma-range because I just like to ride swell and wave, both winging and with a DW-foilsup. And my Kraken mast were either too short or too long (haha).

Pulled the trigger and ordered the M76 Piuma with WRP975. That kit comes with f652 fuselage and 2 stabilisers (s380pf and s325pf). Also ordered the WRP825.
Yesterday went out with the WRP825. Was amazed how easy I could get going (I'm over 40 and over 85kgs) and how well I could keep going in the tricky conditions. Only issue I had was battling the current. Had to ride upwind in-and-out. But, in hip deep water I could hardly stay on my feet due to that current.
Today bit less windy so took the WRP975. I had heaps of fun. It's fast enough to keep up with the wind swell and turns well enough to ride the breaking waves. Pumps way better than the W945 I have been riding for over a year.
The M76 seems long enough for winging, is fast and stiff.

Me happy!

Hi, thanks for the feedback!

What was the lowend of 975 compared to 945, please? I really like the 945 for it's versatility in waves/swell and low/high end.

Thanks!

to me low-end has multiple meanings.

take-off speeds is comparable. Not enough time on wrp975 to judge the stalling when pumping foil up with forward speed that's maybe not enough. Sustaining flight and way of going down. i would say the w945 sinks while the wrp975 drops below the treshold speed. My bet is you can pump the wrp975 better and therefore will be able to keep flying by pumping though a lull once familiar with it.
the 945 has higher carrying capacity and a touch more lift when swell makes you go fast. Wrp975 seems slightly better to manage.

turning style is bit different. Not heaps. 945 shorter radius and pivots, more like surfing turns. WrP975 more carvy/snappy. 945 might be easier, also easier to progress in intermediate level. Gives confidence. Wrp975 is step up, but not in scary way.

all optimism about the Piuma mast, but it is still being taken out of production (is there some spelling between mast and fuselage???)

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Black Sheep said..
all optimism about the Piuma mast, but it is still being taken out of production (is there some spelling between mast and fuselage???)

Cancelling of the Piuma mast and fuselage line is so sad. These, together with the smaller razor pro front wings, have been the best gear ever, at least for me.

Now that the Piuma Series has been dropped; is anyone using the Red Devil Mast instead? What is the difference between Red Devil and Piuma Mast? Can I expect with Red Devil the same "Woow" effect that everyone has with Piuma?

Recently switched from M76 Piuma mast (r6 connection) with Piuma fuselages to Red Devil 74 mast (R8 connection) with Kraken fuselages. The mast connection also meant I had to change fuselages, so I can't directly compare the two masts.
The Piuma combo was lighter and had less drag and feels playfull, but also some flex noticeable. The Red Devil mast with Kraken-fuselage is heavier and more robust, has more drag, but it is also stiffer and you get a more direct response/feel of the foil.

I mostly use the Razor Pro 975.