I have an 8' 136L Sunova foil board and a couple of Naish foils (I tried foiling quite a while ago but did not go back to it) - I also have an 8'8" X32 converted into a foil board.

What size wing thingo would I need?

What are the important features?

I am 6'3", 100 kg (actually a bit more but that's pandemic flab), and 58 yo - if that makes a difference.

Hi, I'm 65, 100 kg and 6'2". Been winging for 9 months and love it. Started with a 4m wasp and then moved to a 5m. Can get going in 13-14 knots and have been out in 40. Being taller makes using bigger wings easier and ill stay with a 5 as my main ride. Enjoy!

As 913pepper mentioned the 5m wing is a good size. I am much lighter at 70kg and use both the 5m and 6m Ozone Wasp. Was out the other day with the 5m in some very light winds but working very hard to stay on the foil. Came back in, pumped up the 6m Wasp and found foiling in those conditions much easier.

STEADY 12-18 knot wind.

Im 105 Kg and 50 years old. Flying around on my Naish hover wind foil board with a slingshot i99 foil. Wing is 6.0 and I'm up and going in 13mph.

Hey Jason your boards will be perfect for learning to wing-ding on and I'm happy to help you learn.. If you are looking at a one wing only either the 4.6 or 5.3 in the Naish brand would work well for you. Or as a two wing quiver the 3.6 and 6m sizes.

You should also consider getting a huge front foil wing like the big 2450 or HA1800 and it will fit the Naish foil set up that you have now. At some stage down the track you should also consider a shorter foil board around 6' like the 110 Hover or 125 Hover like I have.

We are a similar height and weight.. btw I'm using my 4.6 WingSurfer wing and HA1800 foil in this vid from last week. You get plenty of wind down where you live and learning to wing-foil will help you heaps with your sup-foiling.

Thanks everyone for your comments and suggestions! (Great video and music David, and thanks for your offer of help!)

I can see this could become another drain on the credit card; two wings and a tiny board. On that assumption, I think I should start with a 6.0m and go from there. It looks challenging trying to master the wing and the foil at the same time, all while holding a sail above your head without a harness. Do you get a sore back or longer arms?

Or 5m....?

What's your local conditions like as I'm 225lbs can steer you in the right direction but tell us little about where your riding general conditions

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cantSUPenough said..
Thanks everyone for your comments and suggestions! (Great video and music David, and thanks for your offer of help!)

I can see this could become another drain on the credit card; two wings and a tiny board. On that assumption, I think I should start with a 6.0m and go from there. It looks challenging trying to master the wing and the foil at the same time, all while holding a sail above your head without a harness. Do you get a sore back or longer arms?

Thanks.. and no.. don't worry your knuckles won't drag on the ground as you walk..

It's actually a very light load on your arms compared to windsurfing and even after hours of wingding'ing you won't feel the need for a harness.

It's actually easier to learn to foil holding the wing than without and using smaller wings and bigger foils will help with learning the most.

When we can meet up I'm happy for you to try some of my gear (wings/foils etc) to help you decide before buying..

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pitbulldoug said..
What's your local conditions like as I'm 225lbs can steer you in the right direction but tell us little about where your riding general conditions

He is between Point Leo and Flinders.. So Western Port Bay.. Mostly small point breaks waves and bay like conditions.. and hopefully progress to open ocean 'Big Left' Flinders type conditions.

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cantSUPenough said..
Or 5m....?

5 would be good.

Thanks again David!

And for @pitbulldoug I will be fortunate to have a lot of spots to choose from. One one side of the peninsula is Port Philip bay with a sandy bottom (but no swell), and on the other is Westernport bay. There is good swell at times. The crappy wind is from the southwest or westerly which runs cross shore or 45 degrees on shore to the south-facing beach I would probably use. As proficiency grows I could take on ocean swells as well. (I say 'crappy wind' because that is the wind that messes with my favorite surf spot.)

I'm finding it more difficult than wave foiling. Balancing on board in wind & swell whilst holding onto the wing isn't just plain sailing.
So yeah, In my opinion the most comfortable foil board you have will help with that.
I'm 80kgs with a version 1 Naish 4M wing and so far have failed in around 15 to maybe 18 knot winds. Even when I upgraded to a larger foil the Neilpryde XL which I think is equivalent to a 1900 or 2000. So if I had a Naish & heavier than say 85kgs then I would get the 2450 wing which I think is the biggest.
I'm now wishing I had got a bigger windwing around 5M although I'm hearing the newer designs are more powerful.
I have still a lot to learn in winging & am currently forcing myself to sail switch foot & more against the wind without even trying to foil unless I get a big gust of wind.
So as a newbie learner and if I was 100kgs I would grab the biggest foil like 2450 Naish or similar and a 6Metre wing if I was over 6ft tall.
In my experience I found it hard holding the wing up in light winds, fatigues your shoulders fast. Stronger winds is much easier holding the wing up and you can de power it also when gusts of wind hit. But unfortunately for me. When I get out to where the stronger wind is on my local lake, the wind swell is annoying when it knocks your board mainly side on.
But I'm sure with more practise I'll be up & foiling & later be able to downsize my foil especially on the ocean with wave swells.

sounds like not too windy locale if so at your weight pretty close to mine I'd recommend the new Naish Carbon 125L or depending on previous regular sup experience or supfoil experience maybe next size up if lacking experience in these mentioned, good bang for your buck great boards,have a friend 6'4" 230 rides the 110Lbut he has a lot of surf and foiling experience,and you will need a 6m if it's lighter wind area with your weight personally I ride a 7m and 6m Starboard/airush great wings for big guys IMO tried quite a few,under water wing riding Axis 1020,1150,920,for learning at our weight can't beat the 1020 up front makes learning curve way easier!hope that helps

I wish I could remember what the foil was that I own. I seem to remember they were small, medium, large, but I am probably wrong. (I got the biggest they had and the next size down.) I did try a few sessions a few times, on a wave, and managed to get going a few times, but it messed with my surf supping which is a real passion, so I quit.

Part of the areas why I am interested is that I recently bought a holiday apartment near a beach (Kirra) that often has onshore wind in the winter (but it is still a lot warmer than here) so I thought it could work well.

I am similar weight and a little older. I was thinking 5m wing. But I was wondering how does the wing go on a 14ft Glide or a 8'6" Hypernut without foil. I was thinking that would be good for an introduction to wingding. I did many years of sailboarding in the 80's and 90's. I would hope that helps. Any thoughts. Also CSE have you put in time or are you going to use the wing on a board without a foil for a while?

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bigmc said..
Also CSE have you put in time or are you going to use the wing on a board without a foil for a while?

To be honest, I have not given it a great deal of thought and am open to suggestions. I would probably use a regular board initially just to get the feel for the wing, but do it at a beach where I can be blown downwind and easily walk back. Fortunately, my closest beach would be perfect for that. I might also have another go with it as a surf foil sup, just to get the feel for the foil again. And then try to combine them.

Given that the foil would act as a keel, I was also thinking that I could give it a go without initially trying to get up on the foil.

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bigmc said..
I am similar weight and a little older. I was thinking 5m wing. But I was wondering how does the wing go on a 14ft Glide or a 8'6" Hypernut without foil. I was thinking that would be good for an introduction to wingding. I did many years of sailboarding in the 80's and 90's. I would hope that helps. Any thoughts. Also CSE have you put in time or are you going to use the wing on a board without a foil for a while?

Hi bigmc, I did exactly that,first with a 10' sup then a hypernut. It was a good introduction. It also demonstrates how much easier and faster it is on the foil. IMO, I wouldn't plan on using the sups much before moving to a foil, enjoy you'll love it

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cantSUPenough said..
I have an 8' 136L Sunova foil board and a couple of Naish foils (I tried foiling quite a while ago but did not go back to it) - I also have an 8'8" X32 converted into a foil board.

What size wing thingo would I need?

What are the important features?

I am 6'3", 100 kg (actually a bit more but that's pandemic flab), and 58 yo - if that makes a difference.

your gonna be working overtime trying to wing with that size board,I'm same weight started with my 6'8" Kalama 140L supfoil board and quickly realized It was to big for winging,too much work,now riding 5'8" 125L wing specific board,instant game changer,it's one thing trying to supfoil a board that size with wave energy but for winging different ball game

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pitbulldoug said..

cantSUPenough said..
I have an 8' 136L Sunova foil board and a couple of Naish foils (I tried foiling quite a while ago but did not go back to it) - I also have an 8'8" X32 converted into a foil board.

What size wing thingo would I need?

What are the important features?

I am 6'3", 100 kg (actually a bit more but that's pandemic flab), and 58 yo - if that makes a difference.

your gonna be working overtime trying to wing with that size board,I'm same weight started with my 6'8" Kalama 140L supfoil board and quickly realized It was to big for winging,too much work,now riding 5'8" 125L wing specific board,instant game changer,it's one thing trying to supfoil a board that size with wave energy but for winging different ball game

Thanks @pitbulldoug - dumb question, is it the length or the volume or the weight that makes it hard to foil with a wing? I know almost zip about foiling, but I assumed that once you were up on the foil it didn't matter what was flying above it. Is the challenge getting it up on the foil?