3m Flow + 85L 5'8x17 Sultan (around +10L) + Armstrong HA880. Conditions fairly consistent 20kt gusting 17-23.
Had one overly optimistic try in 12-15kt before this but wasn't enough to stand up.

- the wind speed guidelines for the flow 3m are pretty on point. It was hard work getting up below 20kt. This was a flat water attempt, if i had a bit more swell I could have wrangled it up in less but it wasn't easy at the lower end.
- get up is not too bad when there is enough wind. if you have a solid pump dialled in then it will not be a struggle. from start point below is paddle out, attempt in green with not enough wind, then up and running after hitting the windline.
- going upwind is much like kiting but much more sensitive to over pointing as the parawing will correct backwards quite drastically with a wind shift
- end of run 1 is getting on wave and packup attempt. worked fine but i was too focused on that and then ran out of wave
- run 2-3-4 is a couple of tacks and then a wave run and failed relaunch. things learned - get ready to packup as soon as you go downwind as you lose the apparent wind, and pull off to the side. practice packup and relaunch (i didn't do anything beforehand as the launch was sheltered)
- run 5 relaunch-tack, then a gust of wind hit me and dropped the parawing -short paddle to pick it up and then a slog back out to the wind line.
- run 6-9 tack back and forth and slow upwind (did not try a change to heelside so the incoming run to shore is on my toeside but would otherwise have had no issues going upwind).

- general points - forearms burning, would definitely need a harness for a local session, wouldn't be an issue for downwinding. there is a pretty small window of comfort, its either perfect wind, too much or too little, like riding an old 2-line. obviously first try so might improve with more skill
- the Flow storage belt is not fit for purpose.

In short, if you're comfortable pumping to get up on foil when you're winging then you won't have an issue with a parawing.

Great detailed report and observations for someone that is getting mighty close to jumping in for upwind/downwinders

Keep them coming

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Great detailed report and observations for someone that is getting mighty close to jumping in for upwind/downwinders

Keep them coming

Get amongst it! Today I did a short downwind but left it too late, started ok but then a forty minute body drag after wind dropped below 17kt. Time to order a 4.

- get up in short period swell and light wind a little bit trickier on narrow board, harder to keep it flat. Key takeaway more wind, and get straight up on feet as soon as possible

- had one successful pack up, long glide and relaunch staying on the foil. Second one bundled up badly and couldn't relaunch, then ran out of wind and it went downhill from there. A slower start was easier, the second one was on to a steeper face and meant the parawing fell down quicker (still haven't practiced this on land)

- still not convinced on the flow belt but it was excellent to get out the back- I packed it beforehand and put the bungies on, put it behind my back and paddled out, then twisted it to front and pulled it out still dry. I also did this DW session on the e-bike so it was great to put around the waist for the ride.

- stands to reason but it takes a little getting used to not having the wing acting as a counterbalance, I didn't realise how much it is still doing when flagged out

- tried coming in with the kite in the air which worked previous session, with a bit more swell and less wind the wingtip caught the edge of a wave, filled with water and became a sea anchor. Room for improvement there.

(note on my previous post I said tack but meant gybe, haven't tried tack yet!)

"...like riding an old 2-line."

Excellent analogy. These things just don't have the range of a decent wing, particularly for the start. I can foil through some pretty light holes with my 3M but as you mentioned, the start really takes a sustained 20Kn (usual caveats of weight/foil/board apply). At 30 it gets... ummm interesting

The harness line opens up a whole new world of interesting crashes. Think getting yanked off downwind hooked in, then board and foil are dragged along and wind assisted over top of you

Dumping the board leash though seems like a bad idea...

Great description above you had more success than me at the start.


My 2 cents after using 2.9 and 4 BRM and a 4.2 Dwing a few times. I use a 5 10 x 20 x 85l wing board (me 90kg) and a 900cm2 foil and it has made learning tough because I need so much wind to get up the parawing is maxed out when I do. Strongly recommend a bigger board/foil combo to start with which would make you more confident to go out further and try more things. But I do not want to shell out for new board and foil so stuck with the winging combo, I am very selective when I go out now. I think I will end up with a 3m parawing only and use it when there is enough wind and no swell. Getting caught inside with a parawing in the water would not be enjoyable.

Fun learning something new but I am still on the fence. Winging has a lot of pros over parawings for me atm but that may change in the future.

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Fun learning something new but I am still on the fence. Winging has a lot of pros over parawings for me atm but that may change in the future.

Are you using the pw for downwind? That is where it really shines. The learning curve was definitely a bit frustrating at times, particularly dealing with bridle tangles, but each session has seen significant improvement for me and my last session felt like I was finally locked in technique wise to where I was not even dealing with tangles anymore despite stowing repeatedly for dw runs.

For stowing it's important to keep the bar separate from the bunched up wing and it's good practice to bunch up the wing vs just wading it up in a ball. This prevents the really nasty bridle tangles.

It's a game changer for me for dw. Wings are fun for dw but they never really get out of your way. It's a pretty great feeling connecting swell on a dw completely hands free on a small board. Your board vol sounds perfect, is it not a narrow mid length? Surprised you're having trouble with the start. I am 90 kg and use a 78l F One mid. I can start that board no problem as long as I get a gust to 15 using my 5.1 BRM. For dw that 5.1 is comfortable up to 25, once it's gusts to 30 it's pretty difficult to start due to the power and instability of the BRM in those conditions.

Completely agree about a pw in the surf, no bueno. Bridles and breaking waves are a bad mix. But a secured pw is no issue if you can paddle to the outside for a dw run. I just stay outside when using the pw or keep it stowed when riding inside.

For riding in place I have not tried a harness but I think it would be totally required. Not sure yet if I would like that more than a wing but I am skeptical. Perhaps if it went upwind as well as my strike I could be convinced.

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hilly said..
Fun learning something new but I am still on the fence. Winging has a lot of pros over parawings for me atm but that may change in the future.

Are you using the pw for downwind? That is where it really shines. The learning curve was definitely a bit frustrating at times, particularly dealing with bridle tangles, but each session has seen significant improvement for me and my last session felt like I was finally locked in technique wise to where I was not even dealing with tangles anymore despite stowing repeatedly for dw runs.

For stowing it's important to keep the bar separate from the bunched up wing and it's good practice to bunch up the wing vs just wading it up in a ball. This prevents the really nasty bridle tangles.

It's a game changer for me for dw. Wings are fun for dw but they never really get out of your way. It's a pretty great feeling connecting swell on a dw completely hands free on a small board. Your board vol sounds perfect, is it not a narrow mid length? Surprised you're having trouble with the start. I am 90 kg and use a 78l F One mid. I can start that board no problem as long as I get a gust to 15 using my 5.1 BRM. For dw that 5.1 is comfortable up to 25, once it's gusts to 30 it's pretty difficult to start due to the power and instability of the BRM in those conditions.

Completely agree about a pw in the surf, no bueno. Bridles and breaking waves are a bad mix. But a secured pw is no issue if you can paddle to the outside for a dw run. I just stay outside when using the pw or keep it stowed when riding inside.

For riding in place I have not tried a harness but I think it would be totally required. Not sure yet if I would like that more than a wing but I am skeptical. Perhaps if it went upwind as well as my strike runs I could be convinced.

I wanted it for upwind downwind runs. But struggling with the start concept. Just need more practice

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hilly said..

CFL Foiler said..

hilly said..
Fun learning something new but I am still on the fence. Winging has a lot of pros over parawings for me atm but that may change in the future.

Are you using the pw for downwind? That is where it really shines. The learning curve was definitely a bit frustrating at times, particularly dealing with bridle tangles, but each session has seen significant improvement for me and my last session felt like I was finally locked in technique wise to where I was not even dealing with tangles anymore despite stowing repeatedly for dw runs.

For stowing it's important to keep the bar separate from the bunched up wing and it's good practice to bunch up the wing vs just wading it up in a ball. This prevents the really nasty bridle tangles.

It's a game changer for me for dw. Wings are fun for dw but they never really get out of your way. It's a pretty great feeling connecting swell on a dw completely hands free on a small board. Your board vol sounds perfect, is it not a narrow mid length? Surprised you're having trouble with the start. I am 90 kg and use a 78l F One mid. I can start that board no problem as long as I get a gust to 15 using my 5.1 BRM. For dw that 5.1 is comfortable up to 25, once it's gusts to 30 it's pretty difficult to start due to the power and instability of the BRM in those conditions.

Completely agree about a pw in the surf, no bueno. Bridles and breaking waves are a bad mix. But a secured pw is no issue if you can paddle to the outside for a dw run. I just stay outside when using the pw or keep it stowed when riding inside.

For riding in place I have not tried a harness but I think it would be totally required. Not sure yet if I would like that more than a wing but I am skeptical. Perhaps if it went upwind as well as my strike runs I could be convinced.

I wanted it for upwind downwind runs. But struggling with the start concept. Just need more practice

When underpowered the pw start is very similar to a dw sup. You need to use the swell to your advantage to build speed, turn dw and time the start with the push of some wind swell. The BRM wings don't like to be pumped so you have to build a little board speed and then pump the board/foil up on foil. Very similar to a flat water start or more relatable to me grave digging your foil. Looks the The Flow D-Wing can actually be pumped some though, looking forward to getting my 3m Flow later this month to try it,

Keep at it. Its worth it in the end. I am having so much fun now, but I definitely had some pretty challenging moments in the beginning. Having the right board makes a big difference. If you have a dw board its probably worth trying that to get a feel for the start.

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The BRM wings don't like to be pumped so you have to build a little board speed and then pump the board/foil up on foil.

That's not exactly an underpowered example, but a considerably lighter moment on a otherwise very gusty day, quite in the beginning of this clip at 20 sec. When pumping the BRM, do such movements with your hands and it pumps OK.



When there is a stronger moment, don't bother with the above technique. Just hold the PW with one hand and pump the board a little.

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hilly said..

CFL Foiler said..

hilly said..
Fun learning something new but I am still on the fence. Winging has a lot of pros over parawings for me atm but that may change in the future.

Are you using the pw for downwind? That is where it really shines. The learning curve was definitely a bit frustrating at times, particularly dealing with bridle tangles, but each session has seen significant improvement for me and my last session felt like I was finally locked in technique wise to where I was not even dealing with tangles anymore despite stowing repeatedly for dw runs.

For stowing it's important to keep the bar separate from the bunched up wing and it's good practice to bunch up the wing vs just wading it up in a ball. This prevents the really nasty bridle tangles.

It's a game changer for me for dw. Wings are fun for dw but they never really get out of your way. It's a pretty great feeling connecting swell on a dw completely hands free on a small board. Your board vol sounds perfect, is it not a narrow mid length? Surprised you're having trouble with the start. I am 90 kg and use a 78l F One mid. I can start that board no problem as long as I get a gust to 15 using my 5.1 BRM. For dw that 5.1 is comfortable up to 25, once it's gusts to 30 it's pretty difficult to start due to the power and instability of the BRM in those conditions.

Completely agree about a pw in the surf, no bueno. Bridles and breaking waves are a bad mix. But a secured pw is no issue if you can paddle to the outside for a dw run. I just stay outside when using the pw or keep it stowed when riding inside.

For riding in place I have not tried a harness but I think it would be totally required. Not sure yet if I would like that more than a wing but I am skeptical. Perhaps if it went upwind as well as my strike runs I could be convinced.

I wanted it for upwind downwind runs. But struggling with the start concept. Just need more practice

When underpowered the pw start is very similar to a dw sup. You need to use the swell to your advantage to build speed, turn dw and time the start with the push of some wind swell. The BRM wings don't like to be pumped so you have to build a little board speed and then pump the board/foil up on foil. Very similar to a flat water start or more relatable to me grave digging your foil. Looks the The Flow D-Wing can actually be pumped some though, looking forward to getting my 3m Flow later this month to try it,

Keep at it. Its worth it in the end. I am having so much fun now, but I definitely had some pretty challenging moments in the beginning. Having the right board makes a big difference. If you have a dw board its probably worth trying that to get a feel for the start.

Good day today. Upwind angles were awesome and got some semi stows stoked.




**** vid I know but it gives you the idea. Windy AF
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My extra 2 cents worth, Dont overfoil size wise if you can. I was using a 1080 HA and it was cumbersome. Once I switched back to an 880 it become so much more fun and way quicker. Board unifoil 5'10 quiver killer 73 L ish 4.2 Flow Dwing.

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CFL Foiler said..

hilly said..

CFL Foiler said..

hilly said..
Fun learning something new but I am still on the fence. Winging has a lot of pros over parawings for me atm but that may change in the future.

Are you using the pw for downwind? That is where it really shines. The learning curve was definitely a bit frustrating at times, particularly dealing with bridle tangles, but each session has seen significant improvement for me and my last session felt like I was finally locked in technique wise to where I was not even dealing with tangles anymore despite stowing repeatedly for dw runs.

For stowing it's important to keep the bar separate from the bunched up wing and it's good practice to bunch up the wing vs just wading it up in a ball. This prevents the really nasty bridle tangles.

It's a game changer for me for dw. Wings are fun for dw but they never really get out of your way. It's a pretty great feeling connecting swell on a dw completely hands free on a small board. Your board vol sounds perfect, is it not a narrow mid length? Surprised you're having trouble with the start. I am 90 kg and use a 78l F One mid. I can start that board no problem as long as I get a gust to 15 using my 5.1 BRM. For dw that 5.1 is comfortable up to 25, once it's gusts to 30 it's pretty difficult to start due to the power and instability of the BRM in those conditions.

Completely agree about a pw in the surf, no bueno. Bridles and breaking waves are a bad mix. But a secured pw is no issue if you can paddle to the outside for a dw run. I just stay outside when using the pw or keep it stowed when riding inside.

For riding in place I have not tried a harness but I think it would be totally required. Not sure yet if I would like that more than a wing but I am skeptical. Perhaps if it went upwind as well as my strike runs I could be convinced.

I wanted it for upwind downwind runs. But struggling with the start concept. Just need more practice

When underpowered the pw start is very similar to a dw sup. You need to use the swell to your advantage to build speed, turn dw and time the start with the push of some wind swell. The BRM wings don't like to be pumped so you have to build a little board speed and then pump the board/foil up on foil. Very similar to a flat water start or more relatable to me grave digging your foil. Looks the The Flow D-Wing can actually be pumped some though, looking forward to getting my 3m Flow later this month to try it,

Keep at it. Its worth it in the end. I am having so much fun now, but I definitely had some pretty challenging moments in the beginning. Having the right board makes a big difference. If you have a dw board its probably worth trying that to get a feel for the start.

Good day today. Upwind angles were awesome and got some semi stows stoked.




**** vid I know but it gives you the idea. Windy AF

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Looks like epic PW conditions Hilly!

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CFL Foiler said..

hilly said..

CFL Foiler said..

hilly said..

CFL Foiler said..

hilly said..
Fun learning something new but I am still on the fence. Winging has a lot of pros over parawings for me atm but that may change in the future.

Are you using the pw for downwind? That is where it really shines. The learning curve was definitely a bit frustrating at times, particularly dealing with bridle tangles, but each session has seen significant improvement for me and my last session felt like I was finally locked in technique wise to where I was not even dealing with tangles anymore despite stowing repeatedly for dw runs.

For stowing it's important to keep the bar separate from the bunched up wing and it's good practice to bunch up the wing vs just wading it up in a ball. This prevents the really nasty bridle tangles.

It's a game changer for me for dw. Wings are fun for dw but they never really get out of your way. It's a pretty great feeling connecting swell on a dw completely hands free on a small board. Your board vol sounds perfect, is it not a narrow mid length? Surprised you're having trouble with the start. I am 90 kg and use a 78l F One mid. I can start that board no problem as long as I get a gust to 15 using my 5.1 BRM. For dw that 5.1 is comfortable up to 25, once it's gusts to 30 it's pretty difficult to start due to the power and instability of the BRM in those conditions.

Completely agree about a pw in the surf, no bueno. Bridles and breaking waves are a bad mix. But a secured pw is no issue if you can paddle to the outside for a dw run. I just stay outside when using the pw or keep it stowed when riding inside.

For riding in place I have not tried a harness but I think it would be totally required. Not sure yet if I would like that more than a wing but I am skeptical. Perhaps if it went upwind as well as my strike runs I could be convinced.

I wanted it for upwind downwind runs. But struggling with the start concept. Just need more practice

When underpowered the pw start is very similar to a dw sup. You need to use the swell to your advantage to build speed, turn dw and time the start with the push of some wind swell. The BRM wings don't like to be pumped so you have to build a little board speed and then pump the board/foil up on foil. Very similar to a flat water start or more relatable to me grave digging your foil. Looks the The Flow D-Wing can actually be pumped some though, looking forward to getting my 3m Flow later this month to try it,

Keep at it. Its worth it in the end. I am having so much fun now, but I definitely had some pretty challenging moments in the beginning. Having the right board makes a big difference. If you have a dw board its probably worth trying that to get a feel for the start.

Good day today. Upwind angles were awesome and got some semi stows stoked.




**** vid I know but it gives you the idea. Windy AF

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Looks like epic PW conditions Hilly!

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I got my Flow D wing 4.2m about a week ago and have been really happy both with it and with the learning process. I followed the advice of both foilrat and gav hydrofoils and started with my biggest board and biggest foil which made getting started a lot easier. I have been practicing my sup foil downwinding so had some big gear handy. I have been using my 8x20x 128L Smik flyingfish downwind board and either my axis spitfire 1180 ( 1180 span, 1550cm2) or art v2 1099 ( 1099 span 1200cm2) both front wings I use with a skinny rear . I am 105kgs intermediate/ advanced wing, surf sup foil and beginner downwind sup foil, also long time kiter which I think helps alot both in understanding how it flies and also experience dealing with lines and tangles.

First session I was out on the river in an easterly. Perth easterlies tend to be quite gusty and up and down. Wind was averaging around 15 knots gusting up to about 18 and dropping down to about 10
or 12 knots. I had a good play on the beach to get a feel for flying it then went out on the water. Very first impression was that the wing is quite grunty and has plenty of power even before you really get going. Laying on the board with the wing in one hand the board would get moving quite quickly and I had to slide back on the board and wedge the tail in to keep it under control. With a consistent forward pull I also found it quite easy to get up to my feet. The parawing doesn't pull you up as much as a normal wing and there's not as much to lean against but it does get you moving along nicely even before your on your knees which makes mounting the board fairly easy. I am wondering if in time it will actually be easier to get on my feet than with a normal wing.

I also found it quite easy to slog upwind and managed to hold ground well even though I wasn't foiling all the time and I wasn't making my most of my gybes.
With the big spitfire 1180 on I got up foiling pretty easily in the gusts, lulls not enough but easily in the gusts. Once up foiling it felt pretty natural kinda somewhere between a kite and a wing. I was finding it a bit weird getting used to the control bar and the way it steers. Sometimes feeling I wasn't getting enough tension on the back lines and the wing wasn't steering where I wanted it to. I managed one or 2 successful gybes but most gybes resulted in a crash. The timing on the gybes is quite tricky at first. It's just like a kite where you have to time the turning of the kite with the turning of the board. I wasn't getting my timing right and one time got out in front of it causing the wing to collapse on top of me and the bridal to go around my neck. A bit of a fright but luckily no harm done. I got plenty of tangles, tangled on the nose of the board, on the tail of the board, on the board leash and the bar getting tangled in the bridals. The tangles were a hassle but nothing I couldn't sort out in a minute or so. So far I haven't had to paddle in because of a tangle. I can imagine if your not already experienced with untangling kite lines it could be a lot more difficult.

The next day I was frothing for another go so went back to the river. The wind dropped off just as I got there and was probably only 8 or 10 knots. Thought I'd try anyway but as I was wading out I dropped the wing in the water and couldn't relaunch it. There just wasn't enough to power for it to pull itself out of the water. This kind of confirms my suspicions that it's not going to be a light wind weapon. I am mostly just wanting to use it in stronger winds anyway as that's when the bumps get good.


Next 2 sessions were at port beach in about 18 to 20 knots of wind. I was on the Artv2 1099. Wind was a bit patchy as there is a big rock wall and shipping containers upwind. Was going pretty good making a bit of progression but still having some troubles. In the stronger gusts of wind I was quite lit up and breached a couple of times as I couldn't control the power. I was making most of my toeside to healside gybes but I was barely making any heal to toeside gybes. A couple of times I really got in front of the wing and had it collapse on me again and the bridals tangled all over my head. A very happy discovery I made in these 2 sessions was how good the parawing rides toeside. With just one hand on the bar your whole body can point in the right direction easily, making going upwind toeside easy. I was also finding it easier to get going toeside than switch which is very different from winging where I'd never usually get up foiling toeside.


Yesterday I had a really good session where I finally cracked it. I was at my local spot woodmans point, wind was predicted to be light but came up quite solid about 20 to 23 knots. Was pretty lit up on the 4.2m, I haven't started using the harness just yet so it was a lot to hold onto especially on the longer tacks. There was some nice little bumps going and I managed to bundle up the wing and get some good long downwind runs in. I have been doing upwind downwind runs at woodies for a long time on the wing so I am familiar with reading the bumps. Having the wing bundled up definitely brought a higher level of freedom than winging. To me it felt just the same as sup foil downwind or doing drop wallets. Completely undisturbed or affected by the wing, very nice!

Started to get the hang of my gybes. I think the problem I was having is I was steering the wing too aggressively causing it to reach the other side of the wind window well before I did. Initiating the turn with the board first and slowly turning the wing to match the turn of the board seemed to work well. I am finding upwind to be really quite good. It's all quite new still but I'm not noticing too much difference in upwind angles compared to a normal wing. I think a harness is a must for parawing, much more so than normal winging. I will be using a harness for my next sessions.


Overall really stoked with it and feel it is the version of wind powered foiling I had been dreaming of for quite some time. It's certainly not perfect and im definitely not going to get quite the low end I can winging, using it in proper breaking surf could be sketchy. But for what I do most of which is surf and carve in downwind bumps it's going to be amazing.

Session 3, 20-25kts. Still on the 3 as the 4.2 hasn't arrived. This is the first downwind run where I have had enough wind, but was still sketchy in places and it's really a challenge getting up below 20kt. At a pinch in lighter conditions I can get going when underdone by getting the board moving until it's almost on foil while on knees with weight spread evenly, then pop up, immediately pump and find a bump to drop. It's very hit and miss though. I would have had no issues a size up this session.

had a couple of successful relaunches without coming off foil. This is still luck of the draw with my packup as to whether I can get a clean throw and stay on foil. Main lesson learned is not to leave that too late, I can't "catch it" at the last minute like I do with the wing as the parawing just flares out, so early decision is key here for me at present.

also a bit more success with the stow, mainly by slowing down. On a 85cm mast if I hold up the bar the para doesn't touch water so I can afford to take a little extra time to make sure I have the grab and pull up neatly.


finished this session with a ride all the way to the sand and jumped off holding the parawing above my head bunched up, grabbed the foil and exited like a boss. Nobody around to appreciate it of course.

My feel is this would be a very challenging sport to start cold. If you have a good pedigree of downwinding from sup or wing then it's no dramas at all, but if not there is a lot to think about in terms of dropping a wave, packing up and stowing while not falling off. I reckon there is a huge benefit in a season of winging downwind before you hit the parawing, but that's personal thought..

Had my first day out today... what a mess of lines,wet cloth and waterbagging LOL
Conditions weren't the best so i expected bad results but had to give it a go.
Iffy ,light wind,chop and a beachbreak with lowering tide that gave me a scare or two.Surf and parawing require constant attention to avoid getting caught inside.Wind was too light to fly the wet wing easily and i kept getting blown downwind and into the surf as i sorted the beast out for launch.
Could not even get it flying in the water...and it tangled for good after a clumsy capsize.
The oversize Lycra worked good to paddle out and in , it does get heavy with water.A bottom drawstring would be nice to "lock" the stringy monster in its cage.

Tomorrow better wind, will find a sheltered spot.
Thanks to all the hardy souls that posted about their humbling first sessions, makes it easier :)

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Had my first day out today... what a mess of lines,wet cloth and waterbagging LOL
Conditions weren't the best so i expected bad results but had to give it a go.
Iffy ,light wind,chop and a beachbreak with lowering tide that gave me a scare or two.Surf and parawing require constant attention to avoid getting caught inside.Wind was too light to fly the wet wing easily and i kept getting blown downwind and into the surf as i sorted the beast out for launch.
Could not even get it flying in the water...and it tangled for good after a clumsy capsize.
The oversize Lycra worked good to paddle out and in , it does get heavy with water.A bottom drawstring would be nice to "lock" the stringy monster in its cage.

Tomorrow better wind, will find a sheltered spot.
Thanks to all the hardy souls that posted about their humbling first sessions, makes it easier :)

I would offer this: There is no point in even trying if it's not 15 knots and fairly steady. You will be in a world of frustration as you have found out. But, like all things, you gave it a crack because you were excited, like the rest of us, and you went anyway. All that mess gets easier when you chose the right conditions to learn.

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mcrt said..
Had my first day out today... what a mess of lines,wet cloth and waterbagging LOL
Conditions weren't the best so i expected bad results but had to give it a go.
Iffy ,light wind,chop and a beachbreak with lowering tide that gave me a scare or two.Surf and parawing require constant attention to avoid getting caught inside.Wind was too light to fly the wet wing easily and i kept getting blown downwind and into the surf as i sorted the beast out for launch.
Could not even get it flying in the water...and it tangled for good after a clumsy capsize.
The oversize Lycra worked good to paddle out and in , it does get heavy with water.A bottom drawstring would be nice to "lock" the stringy monster in its cage.

Tomorrow better wind, will find a sheltered spot.
Thanks to all the hardy souls that posted about their humbling first sessions, makes it easier :)

I would offer this: There is no point in even trying if it's not 15 knots and fairly steady. You will be in a world of frustration as you have found out. But, like all things, you gave it a crack because you were excited, like the rest of us, and you went anyway. All that mess gets easier when you chose the right conditions to learn.

TICK!!!!

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1adsy said..
My extra 2 cents worth, Dont overfoil size wise if you can. I was using a 1080 HA and it was cumbersome. Once I switched back to an 880 it become so much more fun and way quicker. Board unifoil 5'10 quiver killer 73 L ish 4.2 Flow Dwing.

Found the same even at 93 kg. Much prefer the 880 over the 1080on the BRM 4m PW. The KT Atlas 960 was even better for early launch and matched the DW speed of the swell perfectly at my local spot