Hi guys just after some pro,s and Cons of the Neil pryde wings cheers Rich

Not good, imo. Had a go with the 24 wing pro 2 and it was a flappy pile of poo. And the 24 was supposed to be a big improvement over its predecessor. I'd only buy if your local has one to try and will provide warranty support.

NeilPryde Firefly Pro is fantastic. Big wind range and very playful. Top materials. Can easily keep up with the best wings such as Duotone Unit DLAB. No one-pump, SUP valves. Everything done right.

The only thing that bothers me is that to pack it up you have to fold the trailing edge to the inside, then rolling (like the Ozone Flux v1). My sailor's heart doesn't like folding sails at all.

The 4m is the size I use most often, and it holds up very well with no signs of bagging so far.

I'd agree with Nik.

I have the Firefly Pro in 5.0 and 3.5 and massively impressed with them both. Feel incredibly light both in terms of dead weight and in the hands. Seem stable when powered up, playful during transitions and flags out nice and stable when riding swell.

Only slight negative I can find is if left on a long leash it will flip upside down in the slightest gust but that's easily dealt with.

They are great wings. I love my Firefly Pro 4.5m - fantastic range, acceleration, and wave behavior. Super light and nimble in transitions. I also still enjoy my Fly II Pro 5.5m and continue to use a smaller 2023 Fly as part of a durability test. The only alternative I would consider is the PPC - but it is heavier and more expensive. At this point, I'd consider getting new wings only if they came with a detachable boom solution that covers 3-5m with a single carbon boom.

I have just picked up a 5m Fly III pro and 4m FireFly pro.
Unfortunately due to winter, winter bugs and some other life admin I haven't actually had a chance to get them on the water. But on land they look and feel great. Light, Very good build quality, heaps of shape and tight leading edge, especially in the Fly. I can see this being fast and grunty. Lots of dihedral, so as Stan says I can imagine they may want to flip over when on the water on a long leash.
I was very impressed with the 2023 Fly III pro ,so if these are an improvement, and they look like they will be, I think they will be great.

I haven't used too many wings so it's hard to provide comparisons, but I've got the NP Fly 5.4 and 4.0 and the Fly 2 3.0. I've done about 500km on them, mostly on the 5.4 and 4.0.

I really like the 5.4 and 4.0. The handles are good, and the padding on the leading edges I'm sure has saved my board from more than one ding. I think they've aged well given my use and I don't think there's any signs of bagging or anything like that. My only issue is the trailing edge flaps when overpowered, and from reading reviews I don't think they are the best wings for overpowered conditions. I also wish the front handle was longer so I could ride one-handed, but I wouldn't call this a complaint about the wing.

I struggle with the 3.0 a bit because I struggle to get foiling with it, but it also feels a bit unstable. I've read that smaller wings generally can feel unstable. My issue is probably more of a skill issue, but in high 20's or low 30's knots of wind I struggle with the stability while potentially underpowered and therefore struggle to get on the foil. I also noticed that they've changed the wing size recommendation between the fly and the fly 2: so for my weight (low 90 kgs) they're recommending a 2.9-3.6m wing for 25-35 kts for the fly 1, but for the fly 2 they're recommending 4.0-4.5m for the same wind strength. Unfortunately I only noticed this after I bought the fly 2: I was probably looking at the recommendations for the Fly 1 when I picked the size.

I'd like to try a firefly but there aren't many around on the east coast of Australia.

I've also thought about picking up another wing in the 6-7m range for light wind and am tossing up between the PPC M1-L or another NP wing. The PPC wings are a lot more expensive (even the L version) and I haven't had a chance to try anything yet, but they're meant to be good wings when overpowered so I wonder if that means they have wider range than the NP wings.

I recently added the Firefly 6m to my lineup, alongside the Duotone Slick 5m (2023), and the difference in water performance has been noticeable. The Firefly's boom design makes raising the wing much more efficient-it remains balanced and upright even after a fall, whereas the Duotone tends to flip frequently. I've also found the round boom on the Firefly far more comfortable; the grip doesn't fatigue my hands like the newer Duotone oval booms, which I found abrasive during extended sessions. As an intermediate rider, I appreciate how intuitive and well-designed the Firefly feels. It's made a strong impression, and I'm now considering adding other sizes to my quiver.

Thanks for all the info

Great wings in my opinion. Switched from using duotone slicks and dlab slicks over the last couple of years to fly pro III. Tried the fly pro II last year back to back with my Dlab and found it was a faster and more comfortable wing...also stable wing for flagging compared to Duotone. Prefer booms to handles so fly pro III ticked the boxes this year for an upgrade. Still early days on the fly pro III but so far really enjoying them and my dlabs are retired for back up or will be sold at some point. The larger sizes feel like a bigger wing power wise so you sort of gain half a size up in power but have a slightly smaller wing in your hands.

I've been enjoying the 2025 Firefly Pro 5.0 and 4.0. They're exceptionally light, rip upwind and are great all round wings. Fast and nicely balanced. I love the boom, but wish it would detach for travel.

Out of curiosity can anyone who's tried the firefly and the fly compare them?

New to the Forum. A quick intro, winging for 3 and a half years, 200 hours mostly free riding, some small swell action, no tricks, or big waves. Tacking, gybing, hooked in and strapped. That's it.
Neil Pryde? Awesome customer service and cracking good wings, agile, fast, light, windows on latest versions are perfectly located, the mono handle is superb, with a large pistol grip, once you're used to it nothing comes close, imo.
I've clocked about 123 hours on the Firefly V1 4.5, and Firefly 4.0 V2, with a few sessions on the Firefly Pro 4.0 V2.
Quality is excellent. Older Pryde versions could be a bit flappy, latest versions are fine, nothing unusual, normal leech flutter when at top end. Thats normal on most wings nowadays.
Recommended!!
If you can afford the Aramid versions, go for it.
Personally not convinced by Dacron for the frame, (that applies to any wing) too many issues on larger sizes, Dacron on smaller sizes - 4 or smaller - aren't so bad, imo.

Does anyone know when Neil Pryde releases their new gear/Wings? For example Duotone does in September and therefore buying now 2025 wings makes not much sense as the prices for 2025 gear will drop very soon. Since I want to switch over to Neil Pryde, I want to know when their gear prices will drop most likely. Thx.

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watomi007 said..
Does anyone know when Neil Pryde releases their new gear/Wings? For example Duotone does in September and therefore buying now 2025 wings makes not much sense as the prices for 2025 gear will drop very soon. Since I want to switch over to Neil Pryde, I want to know when their gear prices will drop most likely. Thx.

I'm pretty sure they've only just released the new fly 3 and new firefly in the last month or so.

Edit: apparently back in early May

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dieseagull said..

watomi007 said..
Does anyone know when Neil Pryde releases their new gear/Wings? For example Duotone does in September and therefore buying now 2025 wings makes not much sense as the prices for 2025 gear will drop very soon. Since I want to switch over to Neil Pryde, I want to know when their gear prices will drop most likely. Thx.

I'm pretty sure they've only just released the new fly 3 and new firefly in the last month or so.

Edit: apparently back in early May

Ok. Thx !

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watomi007 said..
Does anyone know when Neil Pryde releases their new gear/Wings? For example Duotone does in September and therefore buying now 2025 wings makes not much sense as the prices for 2025 gear will drop very soon. Since I want to switch over to Neil Pryde, I want to know when their gear prices will drop most likely. Thx.

Think a new Firefly Pro LTD will be released soon, Firefly Pro later. I don't understand the difference between Firefly Pro LTD und Firefly Pro.

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NikOnFoil said..

watomi007 said..
Does anyone know when Neil Pryde releases their new gear/Wings? For example Duotone does in September and therefore buying now 2025 wings makes not much sense as the prices for 2025 gear will drop very soon. Since I want to switch over to Neil Pryde, I want to know when their gear prices will drop most likely. Thx.

Think a new Firefly Pro LTD will be released soon, Firefly Pro later. I don't understand the difference between Firefly Pro LTD und Firefly Pro.

Just the colour, otherwise exactly the same wing. I have the Pro LTD, I received mine in late November 24 in the UK. The standard Pro version arrived to market a few months (25) later. Possible a V3 around late winter early Spring 2026? Just a guess.

I am now on my third generation of Neil Pryde wings, from the first Fly (6.0 and 4.7), the Fly II (5.7 and 4.3) and now the 2025 Firefly Pro (5.5 and 4.0).

I have been very pleased with them. Quality has been (very) good, easy to use. The Fly and Fly II are really excellent wings for the improving wing foiler. The first Fly had a bit much leech flutter, the Fly II had improved this quite a bit. I am very happy with my Firefly Pro's. They are quite a bit flatter with smaller leading edge and strut diameter with a very nice boom. Balanced, good speed and nice range. It is a quite different wing to the original Fly, with much better performance overall. The only, very slight, remark I have is that the boom could have an even more rigid attachment to the strut. I have about 30 sessions on my Firefly Pro's.

I have not tried that many other wings, mainly Duotone and PPC (a couple of runs). The PPCs wings I have tried are incredibly stable, like a fixed wing almost. Really impressive, but also with higher pressure and a bit more demanding to get going. So stable, though. And fast.

Overall, I think that Neil Pryde offers good wings and have clearly improved the performance from their initial wing. I like the use of materials, and overall design of their wings.

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masse said..
I am now on my third generation of Neil Pryde wings, from the first Fly (6.0 and 4.7), the Fly II (5.7 and 4.3) and now the 2025 Firefly Pro (5.5 and 4.0).

I have been very pleased with them. Quality has been (very) good, easy to use. The Fly and Fly II are really excellent wings for the improving wing foiler. The first Fly had a bit much leech flutter, the Fly II had improved this quite a bit. I am very happy with my Firefly Pro's. They are quite a bit flatter with smaller leading edge and strut diameter with a very nice boom. Balanced, good speed and nice range. It is a quite different wing to the original Fly, with much better performance overall. The only, very slight, remark I have is that the boom could have an even more rigid attachment to the strut. I have about 30 sessions on my Firefly Pro's.

I have not tried that many other wings, mainly Duotone and PPC (a couple of runs). The PPCs wings I have tried are incredibly stable, like a fixed wing almost. Really impressive, but also with higher pressure and a bit more demanding to get going. So stable, though. And fast.

Overall, I think that Neil Pryde offers good wings and have clearly improved the performance from their initial wing. I like the use of materials, and overall design of their wings.

Can you compare the fly and firefly models? I've got two Fly's (5.4 and 4.0) and a 3.0 fly 2 and am thinking about whether I go for a 6.0 of either type to replace the 5.4.

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masse said..
I am now on my third generation of Neil Pryde wings, from the first Fly (6.0 and 4.7), the Fly II (5.7 and 4.3) and now the 2025 Firefly Pro (5.5 and 4.0).

I have been very pleased with them. Quality has been (very) good, easy to use. The Fly and Fly II are really excellent wings for the improving wing foiler. The first Fly had a bit much leech flutter, the Fly II had improved this quite a bit. I am very happy with my Firefly Pro's. They are quite a bit flatter with smaller leading edge and strut diameter with a very nice boom. Balanced, good speed and nice range. It is a quite different wing to the original Fly, with much better performance overall. The only, very slight, remark I have is that the boom could have an even more rigid attachment to the strut. I have about 30 sessions on my Firefly Pro's.

I have not tried that many other wings, mainly Duotone and PPC (a couple of runs). The PPCs wings I have tried are incredibly stable, like a fixed wing almost. Really impressive, but also with higher pressure and a bit more demanding to get going. So stable, though. And fast.

Overall, I think that Neil Pryde offers good wings and have clearly improved the performance from their initial wing. I like the use of materials, and overall design of their wings.

Can you compare the fly and firefly models? I've got two Fly's (5.4 and 4.0) and a 3.0 fly 2 and am thinking about whether I go for a 6.0 of either type to replace the 5.4.

I must admit that I really prefer the Firefly. The grunt in the Fly is nice, you can often use a smaller wing that others, but the range, stability and more neutral feel in the Firefly is very nice. The low end is still good, you just need to be more active to get going. I appreciate how easy the Firefly is in moves and I think that it is pretty fast as well. One good example is how good the Firefly flies through in tacks, it has really improved my ability to do this much better. I would definitely go Firefly, Pro if possible (those are the ones that I have).

I've been using Firefly wings for about a year now, mainly 5 m and 6 m. Recently I noticed that the stitching on the leading edge is starting to fail. A friend of mine was riding a 6 m Firefly and had the leading edge blow out while foiling, with the bladder coming out. After that he decided to switch another brand. I emailed NP to ask if the stitching has been improved on the newer models, but never got a response. I really like how the wing rides, but now I'm a bit worried the same thing could happen to me. Just wondering if anyone else has had similar issues with these wings?

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I've been using Firefly wings for about a year now, mainly 5 m and 6 m. Recently I noticed that the stitching on the leading edge is starting to fail. A friend of mine was riding a 6 m Firefly and had the leading edge blow out while foiling, with the bladder coming out. After that he decided to switch another brand. I emailed NP to ask if the stitching has been improved on the newer models, but never got a response. I really like how the wing rides, but now I'm a bit worried the same thing could happen to me. Just wondering if anyone else has had similar issues with these wings?

Do you have my pictures you can share?

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moosh said..

SA_AL said..
I've been using Firefly wings for about a year now, mainly 5 m and 6 m. Recently I noticed that the stitching on the leading edge is starting to fail. A friend of mine was riding a 6 m Firefly and had the leading edge blow out while foiling, with the bladder coming out. After that he decided to switch another brand. I emailed NP to ask if the stitching has been improved on the newer models, but never got a response. I really like how the wing rides, but now I'm a bit worried the same thing could happen to me. Just wondering if anyone else has had similar issues with these wings?

Do you have my pictures you can share?

Sorry, any pictures?

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moosh said..

moosh said..

SA_AL said..
I've been using Firefly wings for about a year now, mainly 5 m and 6 m. Recently I noticed that the stitching on the leading edge is starting to fail. A friend of mine was riding a 6 m Firefly and had the leading edge blow out while foiling, with the bladder coming out. After that he decided to switch another brand. I emailed NP to ask if the stitching has been improved on the newer models, but never got a response. I really like how the wing rides, but now I'm a bit worried the same thing could happen to me. Just wondering if anyone else has had similar issues with these wings?

Do you have my pictures you can share?

Sorry, any pictures?

I did not take a picture of the blown out wing but it was very dramatic as you could imagine the bladder is balooned out from the leading edge was very dramatic.

Have not seen any NP wing with such a damage, however, most people here use the Pro models (different materials). My wife is currently using Dacron NP wings, but she doesn't weigh much and is still learning, so there isn't much stress on the wings.

No, not have any issues like that with my own NP wings, or seen anyone else with quality issues (there are a few around here on NP). I have only managed to puncture the wing cloth a few times... with both foil tips and my elbow.

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SA_AL said..

moosh said..

moosh said..

SA_AL said..
I've been using Firefly wings for about a year now, mainly 5 m and 6 m. Recently I noticed that the stitching on the leading edge is starting to fail. A friend of mine was riding a 6 m Firefly and had the leading edge blow out while foiling, with the bladder coming out. After that he decided to switch another brand. I emailed NP to ask if the stitching has been improved on the newer models, but never got a response. I really like how the wing rides, but now I'm a bit worried the same thing could happen to me. Just wondering if anyone else has had similar issues with these wings?

Do you have my pictures you can share?

Sorry, any pictures?

I did not take a picture of the blown out wing but it was very dramatic as you could imagine the bladder is balooned out from the leading edge was very dramatic.

I've got the firefly pro, the construction looks v good ... no issues for me.

Would have been good to see some pics to see how this developed.

I've got a 5M Fly Pro and a 4m FireFly Pro LTD. The later has quite different material for the strut and leading edge that is "soft" to touch with a weave through it. I believe this is to help minimise the sharp edges you can get when packing away the stiffer Aluula fabrics that can potentially puncture bladders. It's still manufactured by Aluula according to the advertising. It's still pretty stiff when inflated though. Both very nice wings to use.

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Sorry, any pictures?

Would have been good to see some pics to see how this developed.

That's rough!

I had a standard Firefly a couple of years ago that ended up with a twisted frame, one side of the canopy was under tension, the other bagged out. I was lent another standard Firefly until my - replaced under warranty - pro arrived, it did the same within a couple of sessions. The pro seems fine, and from what I know the new 26 wings have a revised construction. The previous generation were constructed in two halves and then stitched together, not ideal it seems. The pro does have a lot more stitching in critical areas compared to the standard. Time will tell.