What are some recommendations for a fun flatwater foil?

Im 80kg and generally like riding swell and downwinding, and my foils are all higher aspect, with a good balance between efficiency/gilde and maneuverability. Kujira 1095 is my ideal foil for this type of riding.

But my conditions arent always conducive to that type of riding, so I want something that will make flatwater sessions fun. I still want something efficient so that I don't need to be powered all the time, but maybe skewing more towards maneuverability and freestyle/jumping. Roughly looking for a mid aspect (6-7 AR) in the 1100-1200 sqcm range, but open to suggestions. What are some good options out there? Im somewhat interested in the Naish MA range which tightens up the wingspan, but supposedly maintains good glide - but not a lot of info out there.

I was recently experimenting with a 4AR, 1300 sqcm foil and the turny feel was a lot of fun, but the glide was terrible and I had to really power the sail out of (or through) every maneuver or it would stall. That was too inefficient, but Im looking for a happy medium.

Im brand-flexible (Cedrus), but bonus points for anything Takuma or Cabrinha since I already have access to these ecosystems. Needs to be sturdy for jumping. No Armstrong (incompatible w Cedrus).

Uninformed opinion: Gong Veloce.
Cheap enough to experiment. Very easy fuselage to machine.

I prefer HA in flat water. Maybe try using a shorter fuse if possible or smaller stab to really loosen things up.

FYI Armstrong fuse from Stringy is available for Cedrus.

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foilthegreats said..
I prefer HA in flat water. Maybe try using a shorter fuse if possible or smaller tail wing to really loosen things up.

FYI Armstrong fuse from Stringy is available for Cedrus.

Re: Cedrus x Stringy x Army - Iiiiinteresting! Ive got the Takuma Stringy fuse already and its the business. I had him drill extra stabilizer positions into it, so I will play around with the short fuse positions a bit more.

Im kind of worried about damaging my HA gear if I get too aggro with the jumps. The Takuma foils are amazing, but the durability is definitely lacking. Destroyed the alu mast almost immediately (hence the Cedrus). Its only gear I guess...

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Velocicraptor said..

foilthegreats said..
I prefer HA in flat water. Maybe try using a shorter fuse if possible or smaller tail wing to really loosen things up.

FYI Armstrong fuse from Stringy is available for Cedrus.

Re: Cedrus x Stringy x Army - Iiiiinteresting! Ive got the Takuma Stringy fuse already and its the business. I had him drill extra stabilizer positions into it, so I will play around with the short fuse positions a bit more.

Im kind of worried about damaging my HA gear if I get too aggro with the jumps. The Takuma foils are amazing, but the durability is definitely lacking. Destroyed the alu mast almost immediately (hence the Cedrus). Its only gear I guess...

Sweet, Stringy make great looking gear!

I've been extremely hard on the Army HA925 & HS1125. Lots of jumping and no problems. I did break 2 masts, they were great with warranty replacement.

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foilthegreats said..

Velocicraptor said..

foilthegreats said..
I prefer HA in flat water. Maybe try using a shorter fuse if possible or smaller tail wing to really loosen things up.

FYI Armstrong fuse from Stringy is available for Cedrus.

Re: Cedrus x Stringy x Army - Iiiiinteresting! Ive got the Takuma Stringy fuse already and its the business. I had him drill extra stabilizer positions into it, so I will play around with the short fuse positions a bit more.

Im kind of worried about damaging my HA gear if I get too aggro with the jumps. The Takuma foils are amazing, but the durability is definitely lacking. Destroyed the alu mast almost immediately (hence the Cedrus). Its only gear I guess...

Sweet, Stringy make great looking gear!

I've been extremely hard on the Army HA925 & HS1125. Lots of jumping and no problems. I did break 2 masts, they were great with warranty replacement.

Amazing report on armstrong! No signs of fracture on the wings? Where did the masts break?

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foilstate said..

foilthegreats said..

Velocicraptor said..

foilthegreats said..
I prefer HA in flat water. Maybe try using a shorter fuse if possible or smaller tail wing to really loosen things up.

FYI Armstrong fuse from Stringy is available for Cedrus.

Re: Cedrus x Stringy x Army - Iiiiinteresting! Ive got the Takuma Stringy fuse already and its the business. I had him drill extra stabilizer positions into it, so I will play around with the short fuse positions a bit more.

Im kind of worried about damaging my HA gear if I get too aggro with the jumps. The Takuma foils are amazing, but the durability is definitely lacking. Destroyed the alu mast almost immediately (hence the Cedrus). Its only gear I guess...

Sweet, Stringy make great looking gear!

I've been extremely hard on the Army HA925 & HS1125. Lots of jumping and no problems. I did break 2 masts, they were great with warranty replacement.

Amazing report on armstrong! No signs of fracture on the wings? Where did the masts break?

No, I also break down my gear after every session and inspect. Nothing but scratches from the lake bottom.
The 2 Armstrong V1 masts both cracked along the insert for the fuselage. They both have been replaced by V2 that are holding up so far.

I guess give the Naish MA a try .. I switch between the HA1040 and MA1000/850 and found the MA1000 (I weight 65kg) is really a fun foil for flat water "free-ride", short span to turn on super tight radius and with good lift foil over the entire short span. What I really love about it is the very low speed "pump to flight" lift and it's super easy to bump into jumps! .. MA850 is super fun bombing down 3-4 foot swells + getting our e.g. on toe side over white water due to almost no moment force on your ankles.