This board looks interesting.Dany Vallejo is building great stuff and exploring new concepts.
I think the holes in the sides are for draining water out.Cannot see where they exit though.

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You can see one hole exit on the rail on the 2nd pic.

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colas said..
You can see one hole exit on the rail on the 2nd pic.

Good eyesight Colas!.
I wonder if they are designed to "suck" water out with forward movement in displacement mode like surfskis and some dinghys.

Whoever put that deck grip on deserves a medal!

Wonder what it would be like getting up from knees, interesting design.

Very nice to sit on, I'd imagine.

why not recess the whole deck
The ridges would be a PITA to kneel on. Young sinker starts only.

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hilly said..
why not recess the whole deck
The ridges would be a PITA to kneel on. Young sinker starts only.

The less recess the more volume you can crank in a compact shape and the less water "pool".Truth is we do not need much real state for our feet in wing foiling.

But the concern about knee starts bugs me too...maybe it is a matter of getting used to it but it looks pretty awkward.

On the other hand getting from knees to feet should be a bit easier as you are putting your feet in the wells below knee level.

reminds me of Greenough's spoon kneeboards

laying on it to paddle in might be a challenge too.

How do foot changes go

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sudy said..
How do foot changes go

Dunno sudy, i do not own this board.I just follow this shaper on Insta because he makes interesting boards.

He did a collab with North ,you can see the tailshape of North wingboards has his same style.

Fully sunken deck. 5ft, 27wide. The deckpad is the sunken deck and it drops about 2inches. It works great when the mast is placed in the right place, with the right wing. If not, then footwork gets tricky. Unlike SUP, water on the deck drains off as soon as I get lift.

This board sparked my interest, might even order a board from him in the future if it turns out nice! Something 4'10-24-85L is what I'm looking for, but with the feel of a thinner board! Only wondering about the efficacy of cutouts, but I guess in a custom job he can leave them out.

I'm at the final stage of shaping a prone surf board and need to start laminating on Monday.
So far I went with straight decks. Someone who had both flat and recessed decks than can comment? I don't buy the sales pitch calling it more skatey, floaty, stable,. so some real use feedback is much appreciated!

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NicoDC said..
I'm at the final stage of shaping a prone surf board and need to start laminating on Monday.
So far I went with straight decks. Someone who had both flat and recessed decks than can comment? I don't buy the sales pitch calling it more skatey, floaty, stable,. so some real use feedback is much appreciated!

I have used both flat and sunken decks for wing, sup and kite foiling. I definitely prefer sunken decks but flat decks are not too bad either, alot comes down to personal preference.

I feel the sunken deck brings you closer to the foil giving better leverage and response. I ride strapless and my feet feel more planted on a concave deck.
For sup paddling and wing slogging a sunken deck is a lot more stable as it lowers your center of gravity and reduces the corkyness.

I have heard many say that a thicker board is equivalent to having a longer mast. I don't think this is correct. If we can all agree a longer mast is less responsive than a shorter mast, within reason. Then having a thicker board reduces the responsiveness without adding the additional clearance benefits of a longer mast.

With all that said I am currently riding a ONE 5'4" 111L with a flat deck. I am 100kg so its good to pack that much volume into a short board and I really like the board.

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Youngbreezy said..

NicoDC said..
I'm at the final stage of shaping a prone surf board and need to start laminating on Monday.
So far I went with straight decks. Someone who had both flat and recessed decks than can comment? I don't buy the sales pitch calling it more skatey, floaty, stable,. so some real use feedback is much appreciated!

I have used both flat and sunken decks for wing, sup and kite foiling. I definitely prefer sunken decks but flat decks are not too bad either, alot comes down to personal preference.

I feel the sunken deck brings you closer to the foil giving better leverage and response. I ride strapless and my feet feel more planted on a concave deck.
For sup paddling and wing slogging a sunken deck is a lot more stable as it lowers your center of gravity and reduces the corkyness.

I have heard many say that a thicker board is equivalent to having a longer mast. I don't think this is correct. If we can all agree a longer mast is less responsive than a shorter mast, within reason. Then having a thicker board reduces the responsiveness without adding the additional clearance benefits of a longer mast.

With all that said I am currently riding a ONE 5'4" 111L with a flat deck. I am 100kg so its good to pack that much volume into a short board and I really like the board.

Thanks! If I have time left today, I'll add a slight deck concave!
I'm building this one cheaply and quickly so a bit of an experiment doesn't sound to bad.

funny I haven't seen any round decks like on a windsurf board. Should work very good for racing as you can lean more outward en have more leverage

As a relatively heavyweight I have the problem that most boards suitable for my weight are rather large. I think the deep deck concaves might solve this problem. Put a lot of volume in small dimensions, but the thickness shouldnt impact feel in any way because the board is as thin as any other. I've never tried a very thick board though, so couldnt comment on how those feel, but higher volume boards are also generally longer and wider and the effect of swing weight is evident. I could have a board which is in volume similar or bigger than the board I have now (5'4x25x75L F-One), but smaller in dimensions and equally thick underfoot (say 4'10x24x85L). Weight would be similar ofcourse, but swing weight reduced without any "cost" in terms of thickness.

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NicoDC said..
I'm at the final stage of shaping a prone surf board and need to start laminating on Monday.
So far I went with straight decks. Someone who had both flat and recessed decks than can comment? I don't buy the sales pitch calling it more skatey, floaty, stable,. so some real use feedback is much appreciated!

My Gong Matata 5' has a bit of recess in the deck.I like it for prone,cradles you in.It is not big, with the deckpad its less than finger width deep.

Thanks all. I've put in all the surf specific features: tail kick, bevels and slightly recessed deck. The deck was more difficult than I thought it would be. Maybe a plainer would be better tool than sanding blocks. I even put in two round-ish mini versions of the 'extreme recessed deck' this thread is about to help with feet positioning.

let's hope the effort is worth it!
tracks and hull glassing are scheduled for tomorrow.
150x52 45 liter

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