My traditional long form written thoughts on wing selection and review of the Ocean Rodeo Glide AA. Check it out, let me know your thoughts and what things you are most curious about when picking a new wing.

www.wouzel.com/post/considerations-for-wing-selection-and-the-ocean-rodeo-glide-aa

Great write up! I have the 5M AA and would love to find someone to trade me for their 3M AA.

I happen to have a 4m AA glide for sale in the US -- used ~15 times, one small repaired canopy tear. If anyone is interested, let me know and I'll send photos.

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AGK7 said..
I happen to have a 4m AA glide for sale in the US -- used ~15 times, one small repaired canopy tear. If anyone is interested, let me know and I'll send photos.

How did you manage to tear the canopy!? You shoot it with a bow and arrow or something???

It looks like awesome stuff, but in the Netherlands with the import duties and 21% taxxes on pretty much everything they are insanely expensive.

No doubt about that. They aren't cheap in the first place and adding taxes on top sounds brutal! Hopefully other brands are inspired to chase lower weights for better performance. I worry the parading craze is going to distract companies for a year or two.

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AGK7 said..
I happen to have a 4m AA glide for sale in the US -- used ~15 times, one small repaired canopy tear. If anyone is interested, let me know and I'll send photos.

Trade for a perfect 5M?

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BWalnut said..

AGK7 said..
I happen to have a 4m AA glide for sale in the US -- used ~15 times, one small repaired canopy tear. If anyone is interested, let me know and I'll send photos.

How did you manage to tear the canopy!? You shoot it with a bow and arrow or something???

Flipped onto a Code stabilizer when I was careless in an offshore launch. I was surprised it tore, but it was a very small and clean tear and the aluula tape that came with it has held fine.

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BWalnut said..

AGK7 said..
I happen to have a 4m AA glide for sale in the US -- used ~15 times, one small repaired canopy tear. If anyone is interested, let me know and I'll send photos.

How did you manage to tear the canopy!? You shoot it with a bow and arrow or something???

Flipped onto a Code stabilizer when I was careless in an offshore launch. I was surprised it tore, but it was a very small and clean tear and the aluula tape that came with it has held fine.

Yeah that's probably as good as new other than the aesthetic. I don't think tears propagate in these canopies either.

Ocean Rodeo starting to show a bit of life again. Their new Glide A is up on the website but no AA at the moment...

oceanrodeo.com/products/glide-a-series?variant=40175989915802

*this is a comment to continue the conversation from "Bladders from Dr. Tuba?" about when you should replace your bladders.

"pacoz said..
When does one actually need to replace the bladder? Obviously when it's damaged, but other than that, when it doesn't hold pressure over the course of one session or simply (like maintenance) just after certain hours of usage?

Asking because I never replaced a bladder until now and some of my wings are pretty old already."



Replacement is an unknown variable that is probably untracked by most but here's my most recent data:

At some point in my last session my 3m started to leak on the water. During inspection at home the bladder burst. Total miles recorded on that wing is 1,815 over the course of 1 year.

Upon inspection of the failure point I thought the popped location looked like it was worn abnormally. So, I pulled the bladder of my 4m to compare and found the exact same wear pattern in the exact same location.

Here's an image of the 4m bladder. You can see the material is fatigued, it looks almost exactly like when you try to push your finger through a plastic bag and the material gets stretched, deformed, discolored. This spot is smaller on the 4m than the large area that was fatigued on the 3m and failed. The 4m has 880 miles on it over the last year.

Normally I would never pull my bladders out to inspect them and check for wear. This is a rare occurrence and only happening since I was unsure about the failure on my 3m. I'm replacing the 3m bladder obviously because it burst. I am also replacing the 4m bladder because we can see that it will, in fact, also burst at some point. I'll keep the current 4m bladder as a backup after installing the new bladder so that I'm never without in a failure.

Some riders might just push it until it explodes but the nature of my riding, being far from home, (my last session on the 4m was a 45 minute downwinder and then upwind 30 minutes back), means extreme swim distances if I don't want to hitchhike make replacement an easy choice.

I have never put so many miles on my wings. Normally I've replaced my wings after a season to keep my quiver fresh. With the AA wings though, they are so light, stiff, and the canopy/frame is such an amazing material that I don't intend to get rid of them in the same timeline as my past wings. I've currently set an arbitrary 5000 mile retirement timeline on them. As such, I should probably pull my bladders out and inspect them every fall and buy replacements for any that show obvious wear spots. Just like changing the fluids in your car!

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BWalnut said..
*this is a comment to continue the conversation from "Bladders from Dr. Tuba?" about when you should replace your bladders.

"pacoz said..
When does one actually need to replace the bladder? Obviously when it's damaged, but other than that, when it doesn't hold pressure over the course of one session or simply (like maintenance) just after certain hours of usage?

Asking because I never replaced a bladder until now and some of my wings are pretty old already."



Replacement is an unknown variable that is probably untracked by most but here's my most recent data:

At some point in my last session my 3m started to leak on the water. During inspection at home the bladder burst. Total miles recorded on that wing is 1,815 over the course of 1 year.

Upon inspection of the failure point I thought the popped location looked like it was worn abnormally. So, I pulled the bladder of my 4m to compare and found the exact same wear pattern in the exact same location.

Here's an image of the 4m bladder. You can see the material is fatigued, it looks almost exactly like when you try to push your finger through a plastic bag and the material gets stretched, deformed, discolored. This spot is smaller on the 4m than the large area that was fatigued on the 3m and failed. The 4m has 880 miles on it over the last year.

Normally I would never pull my bladders out to inspect them and check for wear. This is a rare occurrence and only happening since I was unsure about the failure on my 3m. I'm replacing the 3m bladder obviously because it burst. I am also replacing the 4m bladder because we can see that it will, in fact, also burst at some point. I'll keep the current 4m bladder as a backup after installing the new bladder so that I'm never without in a failure.

Some riders might just push it until it explodes but the nature of my riding, being far from home, (my last session on the 4m was a 45 minute downwinder and then upwind 30 minutes back), means extreme swim distances if I don't want to hitchhike make replacement an easy choice.

I have never put so many miles on my wings. Normally I've replaced my wings after a season to keep my quiver fresh. With the AA wings though, they are so light, stiff, and the canopy/frame is such an amazing material that I don't intend to get rid of them in the same timeline as my past wings. I've currently set an arbitrary 5000 mile retirement timeline on them. As such, I should probably pull my bladders out and inspect them every fall and buy replacements for any that show obvious wear spots. Just like changing the fluids in your car!

That's some great data , thanks for sharing

I changed once a bladder which was worn in 4 symetrical located spots under where the 2 soft handles were stitched , which seems obvious when think about it .
And where are yours worn ?

Mine is wearing right by the leading edge but I couldn't see any obvious stitching that would wear there. Perhaps there's a seam on the leading edge that rubs?

Is that wing actually good for simple freeriding, maneuvers and stuff? I could buy a used 5m and 6m for a (relatively) reasonable price.

Right now I ride some strike v2s (managed to get a unused quiver). They are very playful wings, but won't hold up much longer, so I consider changing.

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pacoz said..
Is that wing actually good for simple freeriding, maneuvers and stuff? I could buy a used 5m and 6m for a (relatively) reasonable price.

Right now I ride some strike v2s (managed to get an unused quiver). They are very playful wings, but won't hold up much longer, so I consider changing.

I primarily swell ride and they are the best I've used for that (and I've looked a lot). When I tack, 360, etc I don't have issues but that's also not my forte.

They are so light and easy to throw around. Perfect in my eyes.

Ok thank you, sounds promising. I did read somewhere that when powered the load is more on the front hand. Is that so? I actually like wings with an even distribution.

Unsure? I'll try to take note of that today on the 4m and get back to you.