Hi! Anyone have any experience with the Code foils? Thanks

There are some threads on here regarding Code, I think this is the biggest one:
www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Stand-Up-Paddle/Foiling/Code-Foils-believe-the-hype?page=1

I wing foiling with Code 850S recently and it is one of the best foil I ever ride.

It's a total package and good at almost everything.

Good glide good low end, good top end, very maneuverable and relatively easy to ride.

The feeling is very similar to AFS Silk 850.

I demo'd the 850s but only had it for a day so didn't get to really push its limits but here's what I came up with:

Very fast.
Generates speed/glide really well in the swell energy pocket.
Didn't turn as well as my 850.
Similar low end as my 850.
I really struggled to pump it, but this is unique to each foil IMO and 1 day isn't enough time to lock that in. When I pumped it tho, I was obviously pushing the whole kit straight down in the water.
Beautiful build quality and finish.
Minor annoyance that the mast plate isn't slotted.

For my riding style, if I was going to try them again for winging I'd want to try the 720s and the 770r.

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Taeyeony said..
I wing foiling with Code 850S recently and it is one of the best foil I ever ride.

It's a total package and good at almost everything.

Good glide good low end, good top end, very maneuverable and relatively easy to ride.

The feeling is very similar to AFS Silk 850.

Taeyeony, I think I've seen you over at the North sonar thread, do you use both brands?

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oskarhhh said..

Taeyeony, I think I've seen you over at the North sonar thread, do you use both brands?

I'm use North since I start foiling 3 years ago. Just got the 850S for about 2 months

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Taeyeony said..

oskarhhh said..

Taeyeony, I think I've seen you over at the North sonar thread, do you use both brands?

I'm use North since I start foiling 3 years ago. Just got the 850S for about 2 months

Ok, do you prefer the code over north?

2months ago I traded my AXIS setup (980 +999) for CODE (1130S + 850S). I have also previously owned Naish foils. I thought all of them were great foils and I liked them all.

But I've now had about 35 sessions on my CODE setup and I think they are fantastic. They are better than my skills can show but I am improving riding them and have yet to fully explore their limits. I am only winging them (not proning or downwinding). Highly recommend you demo some and see for yourself.

Well done James Casey and CODE Team, awesome product and thanks Sam and wssboards.com.au/ for always looking after me.

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KA643 said..
2months ago I traded my AXIS setup (980 +999) for CODE (1130S + 850S). I have also previously owned Naish foils. I thought all of them were great foils and I liked them all.

But I've now had about 35 sessions on my CODE setup and I think they are fantastic. They are better than my skills can show but I am improving riding them and have yet to fully explore their limits. I am only winging them (not proning or downwinding). Highly recommend you demo some and see for yourself.

Well done James Casey and CODE Team, awesome product and thanks Sam and wssboards.com.au/ for always looking after me.

Thanks for the feedback, how early do you get going with the 1130? (Board/wing/weight)

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oskarhhh said..
Ok, do you prefer the code over north?

If I don't have any foil and have to buy one, it will be Code. But I have many North foils so I choose the one that complements my existing quiver.

North have many good things. The build quality and its industrial design are top-notch way better than most brands including Code. The included hardware and accessories like foil covers are the best in the industry.

The reason why I prefer Code is the performance. Its designer and the whole team are elite foilers and so as their products. Luckily it is quite user-friendly. They came late to the game so they have the advantage of using the known-good design. (Front wing with the integrated front part of the fuselage and Geometric Mast/Frontwing/Fuselage connection.

The recent foils from North are quite good. And North foils are always very user-friendly. I recommend many beginners to learn on North SF foil instead of a low aspect big fat foil that most ppl recommend to beginners. I progress more quickly when switch to North. My friends who were at beginner level at that time also said the North are very easy foil to use. It can make an intermediate rider ride better instantly.

Thanks!

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oskarhhh said..

Taeyeony said..

oskarhhh said..

Taeyeony, I think I've seen you over at the North sonar thread, do you use both brands?

I'm use North since I start foiling 3 years ago. Just got the 850S for about 2 months

Ok, do you prefer the code over north?

Only handled them on the beach, but the North mast is stiffer. I think North is also planning on wings with integrated fuses next season. Both missed an opportunity to not have the mast slot into the fuse. Butt joints are superior - thinner fuse and stiffer (less carbon wear).

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oskarhhh said..

KA643 said..
2months ago I traded my AXIS setup (980 +999) for CODE (1130S + 850S). I have also previously owned Naish foils. I thought all of them were great foils and I liked them all.

But I've now had about 35 sessions on my CODE setup and I think they are fantastic. They are better than my skills can show but I am improving riding them and have yet to fully explore their limits. I am only winging them (not proning or downwinding). Highly recommend you demo some and see for yourself.

Well done James Casey and CODE Team, awesome product and thanks Sam and wssboards.com.au/ for always looking after me.

Thanks for the feedback, how early do you get going with the 1130? (Board/wing/weight)

I'm riding a Fanatic/Duotone skystyle 75L, have 6m, 5m & 3.5m wings and weigh about 78kg. In the video I'm riding the 850S/med fuse/150tail, 5m wing in about 18knots. I find the 1130S gets me going as early as my old Axis HPS 980 (which is 1323cm2). I'm loathe to quote knots (what's min and max gust, water surface, waves, chop, board hull design etc) but I probably need a 14/15knot gust to get up on the 1130S foil then can probably keep going in a minimum of 10-12knts. It's hard to quantify that unless you are testing gear side by side with same rider/conditions etc.

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Faff said..

oskarhhh said..

Taeyeony said..

oskarhhh said..

Taeyeony, I think I've seen you over at the North sonar thread, do you use both brands?

I'm use North since I start foiling 3 years ago. Just got the 850S for about 2 months

Ok, do you prefer the code over north?

Only handled them on the beach, but the North mast is stiffer. I think North is also planning on wings with integrated fuses next season. Both missed an opportunity to not have the mast slot into the fuse. Butt joints are superior - thinner fuse and stiffer (less carbon wear).

Butt joints are superior? Maybe I'm missing something here but I would not want a butt joint at that connection point. Wouldn't 100% of the load would be transferred to the bolts? That's sounds like a recipe for lost foils for sure.

Both North and Code mast/fuse connection are similar code have a bit narrower but very deep insertion into the fuse and built like a tank but use M6 screws. North connection are very strong too and use M8 screws.

I see no problem at all for both brands as a system.

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BWalnut said..

Faff said..

oskarhhh said..

Taeyeony said..

oskarhhh said..

Taeyeony, I think I've seen you over at the North sonar thread, do you use both brands?

I'm use North since I start foiling 3 years ago. Just got the 850S for about 2 months

Ok, do you prefer the code over north?

Only handled them on the beach, but the North mast is stiffer. I think North is also planning on wings with integrated fuses next season. Both missed an opportunity to not have the mast slot into the fuse. Butt joints are superior - thinner fuse and stiffer (less carbon wear).

Butt joints are superior? Maybe I'm missing something here but I would not want a butt joint at that connection point. Wouldn't 100% of the load would be transferred to the bolts? That's sounds like a recipe for lost foils for sure.

I failed Mechanics 101, but the joint is under compression, right?
Anyway, George Hradil mentioned it here.
?si=4biulygGJ02Qd5OF

Duotone, AFS, Delta foils, Mike's Lab use butt joints.

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Faff said..

BWalnut said..

Faff said..

oskarhhh said..

Taeyeony said..

oskarhhh said..

Taeyeony, I think I've seen you over at the North sonar thread, do you use both brands?

I'm use North since I start foiling 3 years ago. Just got the 850S for about 2 months

Ok, do you prefer the code over north?

Only handled them on the beach, but the North mast is stiffer. I think North is also planning on wings with integrated fuses next season. Both missed an opportunity to not have the mast slot into the fuse. Butt joints are superior - thinner fuse and stiffer (less carbon wear).

Butt joints are superior? Maybe I'm missing something here but I would not want a butt joint at that connection point. Wouldn't 100% of the load would be transferred to the bolts? That's sounds like a recipe for lost foils for sure.

I failed Mechanics 101, but the joint is under compression, right?
Anyway, George Hradil mentioned it here.

?si=4biulygGJ02Qd5OF

Duotone, AFS, Delta foils, Mike's Lab use butt joints.

I didn't go through all of those, but both duotone and afs are not butt joins. Those are tongue and groove.
As far as compression goes, I don't have load data for how each side of the foil is loaded, but any time you jump or tip breach you are undoubtedly going to load one side more than the other. It would be interesting to know loads in traditional turns though. If it was truly compression only, then I can't imagine why we see mast to foil connection bolts snapping frequently. (F-one is the worst I know of right now. All those sk8 foils living at the bottom of the sea).

There must be huge variety of load patterns on the mast/fuse connection. In stable riding there is compression and fore-aft bending moment from the upward force from front wing and down force from tailwing and when breaching, landing or sharp turning or yawing there will be bending moment from side to side and some torsion too. No wonder F-one style joint is prone to breaking.

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