70kg, wanting to improve my wave / bump tiding. Used an MA1000 at Manawa last season but felt over foiled at times. Should I go for an MA800 or HA680?

You winging? Getting towed in? What are the waves like ? either or 680 mate.

Yes winging on maybe head or just over. Fairly mellow waves.

well the ma 800 you will be used to and it does have the best breach capability on the market. 680 is a weapon in the waves as well and much better pump and glide when flagged.

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eppo said..
well the ma 800 you will be used to and it does have the best breach capability on the market. 680 is a weapon in the waves as well and much better pump and glide when flagged.

Totally agree - have both MA and HA, although the MA is fantastic when breaching and stalling speed which is nice for mid-level the HA is my go to as it is much faster, especially when coupled with smaller tail. The older HA is even faster than the new version. If I had to do it again, I would go for HA strait away even if it takes more time to tame this wild weapon!

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foilcad said..

eppo said..
well the ma 800 you will be used to and it does have the best breach capability on the market. 680 is a weapon in the waves as well and much better pump and glide when flagged.

Totally agree - have both MA and HA, although the MA is fantastic when breaching and stalling speed which is nice for mid-level the HA is my go to as it is much faster, especially when coupled with smaller tail. The older HA is even faster than the new version. If I had to do it again, I would go for HA strait away even if it takes more time to tame this wild weapon!

I'd say categorically the new HAs are easier to use than even the Mas. They pop up way sooner, have far better stall speed and far more intuitive. I've said this before i'm not sure why they even called them the V2 HA - very different to the old HA. I'd even put a beginner on them they are that easy to use. As for all the other brands HA surf/wing type front wings. Tail and fuse selection are probs more important when matching up suitability with current ability. There are times when i wish they had a bit more "pinaz" like the old Has.

I've ridden both extensively in surf, unless you're in steep fast powerful surf the 680 is hands down the winner IMHO. It gets on foil faster, stays on foil easier, has more glide and can actually handle some decent size surf.

The 800 shines when things get steep and fast.

I've ridden both extensively in surf, unless you're in steep fast powerful surf the 680 is hands down the winner IMHO. It gets on foil faster, stays on foil easier, has more glide and can actually handle some decent size surf.

The 800 shines when things get steep and fast.

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Oahuwaterwalker said..
I've ridden both extensively in surf, unless you're in steep fast powerful surf the 680 is hands down the winner IMHO. It gets on foil faster, stays on foil easier, has more glide and can actually handle some decent size surf.

The 800 shines when things get steep and fast.

Spot on .

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Oahuwaterwalker said..
I've ridden both extensively in surf, unless you're in steep fast powerful surf the 680 is hands down the winner IMHO. It gets on foil faster, stays on foil easier, has more glide and can actually handle some decent size surf.

The 800 shines when things get steep and fast.

Couldn't agree more ??