Hey,

I am going in thoughts of swapping my gear towards ensis. Coming from Duotone wings and currently use an f one board. Keeping Armstrong as foil.

I love the Duotone wings so nothing wrong there and especially the canopy mod3 is extremely durable.
However Im curious what people think of these wings and boards?

is the canopy as durable as mod3? (X-ply)
and are wings good overall?
board shape looks odd, does it behave well in water and is it good once on foil? Thinking tight turns and jumps.

thanks :)

I think (...by testing myself long time ago) the design is ok. But so are the majority of wings today.

I've heard complaints from fellow wingers about quality, especially the stitching. A good friend of mine just sold his Ensis score. The stitching topic came up again


But on the other side .. there are amazing deals now out there (if you are in EU)

Had 6.2m 1-2 years ago, was powerful, well-made but heavy. A much better 95kg friend used Spins fir almost 2 years and they held up well.

If you refer to the RocknRoll, what is strange about the shape? Very similar to windfoil freestyle boards of the last say 2.5yrs, and they are working well.

I have seen a couple in person and they appear well made, but I haven't carved into one properly yet

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MProject04 said..
I think (...by testing myself long time ago) the design is ok. But so are the majority of wings today.

I've heard complaints from fellow wingers about quality, especially the stitching. A good friend of mine just sold his Ensis score. The stitching topic came up again


But on the other side .. there are amazing deals now out there (if you are in EU)

The stitching was V1 which was fixed under Warranty by ENSIS asap - this was over 4 years. Windsurf sail???

Ensis never made winsurf sails! So I am not sure about your good friend

ENSIS making some high quality and designed products and are the one of the market leader in Europe.Antoine Albau the fastet Windsurfer atm just joined the team. Also have look at some of Bald Muller videos

Stitching really was a problem of the Ensis Wing of which the handles tended to come lose. It was a bit of abummer because it took a good sailmaker and a lot of removing and building up again. I had one and had it fixed, apart from that it was a good wing.
I have since been on a range of Scores (2.8, 3.5 4.0 and 4.5) which have taken quite some abuse form the whole family from the beginner phase through to learning frontside 360s. I even crashed with a tourist boat which I luckily survived as the leading edge took most of the brunt and sent me flying out of the way of the propeller. The canopy is as vulnerable to being pierced by the stab of a foil as any other, but apart from that no signs of wear and tear.
They are so powerful I sold the 5,2 wing having realized I was out and pumping my 90 kilos on the foil easily with the 4,5 when most other sailors were out on 5, 5.5, 6 or even bigger.
I don't know if other wings are significantly better in handling or more docile, I like how they do what I want them to do but can't compare. The 2,8 can be a handful at times, but that might be the case with other wings in gusty strong winds.

They are the 2022 model with textile handles and this might be the only reason for me to switch to another model. Haven't tried any yet but I suspect booms are the future.

If you want me to name a drawback: The zippers of the bags have come apart in some of them.

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MProject04 said..
I think (...by testing myself long time ago) the design is ok. But so are the majority of wings today.

I've heard complaints from fellow wingers about quality, especially the stitching. A good friend of mine just sold his Ensis score. The stitching topic came up again


But on the other side .. there are amazing deals now out there (if you are in EU)

The stitching was V1 which was fixed under Warranty by ENSIS asap - this was over 4 years. Windsurf sail???

Ensis never made winsurf sails! So I am not sure about your good friend

Yeah my good friend and I are coming from windsurfing into winging and of course becoming totally addicted to wing.

But the money investment into a wing is comparable to a sail, so as per our previous experience it's only fair to expect a similar level of durability.

No one wants to pay 800 - 900 EUR to then have to deal with warranty issues (or finding sailmakers to deal with stitching like ZeeGerman) Good that they got that sorted post V1.

On that note @ZeeGerman why not fixing the stitching issues under warranty at the time?

On that note @ZeeGerman why not fixing the stitching issues under warranty at the time?
It didn't even occur to me as I didn't know how old the wing was exactly, didn't have an invoice (I had been given the pre-owned wing as a surprise birthday present a year before not knowing the first owner) and didn't have the time as I was going on holiday. I knew my favorite sailmaker on a Greek island would do it quickly, in perfect quality and for little money. Cost me 50 ?, so I didn't mind.