ALCHEMY SYSTEM ready for Preorders

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foilthegreats > 9 months ago, 15 Jan 2022

foilthegreats

770 posts

15 Jan 2022 6:20am

Looks like a great concept : alchemysurf.co

marco

328 posts

15 Jan 2022 10:14am

Just to clarify, when you ride Armstrong you can change the fuse to use Axis foil for instance?

warwickl

NSW

2357 posts

15 Jan 2022 4:35pm

I am interested to know how the system accommodates different rear wings, eg. some fit on top and some under the fuselage, possibly with different built in aoa?

eppo

9762 posts

15 Jan 2022 2:58pm

Yeh my question is the same..

CH3MTR4IL5

943 posts

15 Jan 2022 8:57pm

It looks like the adapter is shaped to accommodate that? (Second pic).

what a freaking great idea.

motogon

205 posts

15 Jan 2022 11:47pm

Looking at website, it's unclear: Who behind of this products? Where company located? No address, no phone, no names.

dejavu

825 posts

16 Jan 2022 2:28am

Are you restricted to one length of a fuselage? It would be nice to have a choice of long to super short.

MidAtlanticFoil

825 posts

16 Jan 2022 2:46am

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motogon said..
Looking at website, it's unclear: Who behind of this products? Where company located? No address, no phone, no names.

Guy is located n Hawaii. I've been following him on Instagram for a long while. He's definitely put in the work to come up with a great product.

north_kiter

NSW

233 posts

16 Jan 2022 6:49am

Why all the holes in the fuselage? Don't see that with any other foil brand, wouldn't it just create unnecessary drag?

Is everything titanium or is tefgel required with this?

Velocicraptor

839 posts

16 Jan 2022 4:00am

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north_kiter said..
Why all the holes in the fuselage? Don't see that with any other foil brand, wouldn't it just create unnecessary drag?

Is everything titanium or is tefgel required with this?

I think the holes are to adjust for different fuse lengths.

cool product but I would guess there is quite a bit of shimming involved to get the setup right with various brands. There is a Lift tail adapter on the market that allows you to use non-OEM tails with a Lift wing but there is a lot of shimming required to make some brands compatible. My curiousity is offset by the fussiness of these things.

radair

151 posts

16 Jan 2022 8:53am

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dejavu said..
Are you restricted to one length of a fuselage? It would be nice to have a choice of long to super short.

As velocicraptor said, you can put your tail in multiple locations so effectively you have one fuse that is as long or short as you want.
It appears this is specifically for Armstrong masts.

You have a choice of aluminum or ti heads according to the website.

foilthegreats

770 posts

14 May 2022 2:56am

I preordered the Takuma version and just got the shipping confirmation. Pictures to come.

foilthegreats

770 posts

29 May 2022 10:58pm

The quality and fit of this product is excellent. Still haven't used unfortunately. Need to figure out the stab shimming situation. Will probably chop off part of the fuse at some point. Stab mounting is from 75cm to 45cm roughly.

Sonsaleta

82 posts

29 May 2022 11:39pm

The chemistry fuse weight the same than the armstrong one or much heavier?

foilthegreats

770 posts

29 May 2022 11:55pm

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Sonsaleta said..
The chemistry fuse weight the same than the armstrong one or much heavier?

Give or take 5g, my scale is not super accurate:

Armstrong 50F: 350g
Armstrong 60F: 430g
Takuma Fuse 2022: 700g
Alchemy Takuma Aluminum with Titanium Fuse: 740g

Hardware not included.

Sonsaleta

82 posts

30 May 2022 2:50am

??
so 300g more than the armstrong fuse. That's decent!

foilthegreats

770 posts

30 Nov 2022 7:52pm

Some cool new improvements to the system. The rear fuselage is now modular as well:

Also modular fuselage preorder for Lift, Axis and Takuma masts systems:

Also a lift adapter to run modular fuselages:

Really cool stuff!

Check it all out here: alchemysurf.co/collections/all?page=1

marco

328 posts

30 Nov 2022 9:30pm

Still unclear website.....

foilthegreats

770 posts

30 Nov 2022 11:54pm

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marco said..
Still unclear website.....

I have no affiliation FYI.
I agree it is not easy to understand what does what.
Best way to look at it is you purchase ever piece in the system separately as shown in the diagrams. Building the setup you want.

I have the original system and it is really awesome.
Be a killer setup with the NEW army masts.

marco

328 posts

1 Dec 2022 8:55am

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foilthegreats said..

marco said..
Still unclear website.....

Be a killer setup with the NEW army masts.

Was thinking the same:-).

marco

328 posts

1 Dec 2022 1:42pm

Is this what you need for an Amstrong mast? sounds interesting using different wings like Axxis etc.

xxx Head Adapter
Titanium Fuselage modular connector - Armstrong Long
Fuselage Stabilizer Connections

foilthegreats

770 posts

1 Dec 2022 7:11pm

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marco said..
Is this what you need for an Amstrong mast? sounds interesting using different wings like Axxis etc.

xxx Head Adapter
Titanium Fuselage modular connector - Armstrong Long
Fuselage Stabilizer Connections

Yes. Not sure if hardware to assemble is included.

elbrento

4 posts

21 Dec 2022 2:17am

Anybody have an update on how the alchemy setup performs with a takuma foil on armstrong mast? similar to the original kujira setup or shim changes needed from minor geometry shifts?

foilthegreats

770 posts

21 Dec 2022 9:46pm

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elbrento said..
Anybody have an update on how the alchemy setup performs with a takuma foil on armstrong mast? similar to the original kujira setup or shim changes needed from minor geometry shifts?

Works great without any shims. Some videos of the setup in action:

elbrento

4 posts

22 Dec 2022 2:51am

Hell yea! thanks @foilthegreats. I always thought great lake's surf was perfect for foiling.

Anything else to note with the setup? any additional hardware thats needs to be purchased?

thanks again

foilthegreats

770 posts

22 Dec 2022 2:59am

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elbrento said..
Hell yea! thanks @foilthegreats. I always thought great lake's surf was perfect for foiling.

Anything else to note with the setup? any additional hardware thats needs to be purchased?

thanks again

I purchased stabilizer shims to mount flat but they're not necessary:

www.foilparts.com/products/armstrong-tail-to-flat-mount-works-with-our-tail-adapter

www.foilparts.com/products/takuma-tail-to-flat-or-lift-tail-adapter-shim

Foilnut

181 posts

27 Apr 2023 5:36am

Anyone know if the Alchemy system is compatible with the new Armstrong performance mast?

siny

NSW

287 posts

27 Apr 2023 11:16am

Yep

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