"Tracky" mid length wing boards

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Wing Foiling

DWF

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DWF

719 posts

26 May 2025 7:03am

Ken Adgate talks about the trend of banana rockers inspired by Frank boards in this podcast. He also mentions the deck angle he uses. 2.2-2.6 degrees. This could also be expressed as a mast rake angle of 2.2-2.6. It's all the same.

My board is 2.2 degrees.

Stretchy

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Stretchy

WA, 1053 posts

26 May 2025 12:30pm

Horses for courses I guess, but I'm not sold on the banana shape for getting going on flat water with small or high aspect foils. If you're using swell to get going, then I guess it might help. In flat water flat rocker with a sharp release on the tail allows you to quickly get to a fast enough board speed that you can take off. Any rocker on the tail just feels draggy to me.

DWF

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DWF

719 posts

26 May 2025 7:15pm

Stretchy said..
Horses for courses I guess, but I'm not sold on the banana shape for getting going on flat water with small or high aspect foils. If you're using swell to get going, then I guess it might help. In flat water flat rocker with a sharp release on the tail allows you to quickly get to a fast enough board speed that you can take off. Any rocker on the tail just feels draggy to me.

It's increased board length that flips the script.

Stretchy

1053 posts

Stretchy

WA, 1053 posts

26 May 2025 8:49pm

DWF said..

It's increased board length that flips the script.

Agree, I have a Carver. 20" x 6'2", flat tail

great interview with Ken A above. He actually acknowledges the compromise on planing, but points to other advantages the rocker brings

Grantmac

2383 posts

Grantmac

2383 posts

27 May 2025 9:00pm

Starboard Above and their newer inflatables have this:

Niichts

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Niichts

45 posts

29 May 2025 11:02pm

An interesting look at how shape choices affect board feel for midlength boards! While a short video, would be cool if anyone else could corroborate or feedback on the ones mentioned in the video.

BWalnut

1160 posts

BWalnut

WA, 1160 posts

29 May 2025 11:08pm

Stumbleweed said..

BWalnut said..
It's just a skill for handling larger boards and learning how to manage your wing and pivot turn them if necessary. The sultan will take off better than the omen for sure. You need to use the wing to pivot the board direction correctly and also learn to flag the wing instead of letting it power you straight downwind in the wrong direction.

*edit* the Sultan wing is also pretty thick, which adds to the challenge IMO.

Can you please elaborate on, "...use the wing to pivot the board direction..." Thanks

Have you seen how a sup surfer will place more weight on the tail of their board and then use the paddle to pivot with the nose of the board in the air? It's similar to that but not so extreme.

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